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#fedora-meeting-3: RELENG (2023-10-31)
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Meeting started by jednorozec at 16:00:07 UTC. The full logs are
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Meeting summary
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* init process (jednorozec, 16:00:08)
* Fedora 39 release cycle (jednorozec, 16:05:15)
* PDC retirement (jednorozec, 16:09:51)
* tickets (jednorozec, 16:21:35)
* Open Floor (jednorozec, 16:53:38)
Meeting ended at 16:58:00 UTC.
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#fedora-blocker-review: F39-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:06 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:06)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:06:51)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:06:52)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:06:52)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:06:52)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:06:54)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:06:56)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:06:58)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:07:00)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:07:02)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:07:04)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:07:06)
* 1 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:07:08)
* 5 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:07:12)
* 1 Accepted Previous Release Blockers (adamw, 16:07:14)
* 3 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:16)
* 4 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:18)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:07:20)
* Proposed Final blocker (adamw, 16:07:34)
* (2247033) GNOME crashes after 1 second when trying to record
screencast on an AMD GPU (adamw, 16:07:40)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2247033 (adamw,
16:07:40)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1428
(adamw, 16:07:40)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW, depends on other bugs (adamw,
16:07:40)
* AGREED: 2247033 - punt (delay decision) on blocker,
AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - we couldn't come to a clear
decision on whether this is a blocker, given it only affects certain
hardware. But it is accepted as an FE and nirik says the proposed
fix seems to work, so we should be able to fix it for the next
compose (adamw, 17:13:34)
* Proposed Final freeze exceptions (adamw, 17:13:51)
* (2246800) Having Kitty Installed Prevents Upgrade to Fedora 39
(adamw, 17:14:52)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246800 (adamw,
17:14:52)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1426
(adamw, 17:14:52)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, kitty, NEW (adamw, 17:14:52)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+0,0,-2) (-nielsenb, -lruzicka)
(adamw, 17:14:53)
* LINK:
https://openqa.stg.fedoraproject.org/tests/3302117/asset/iso/03302117-Fedor…
(adamw, 17:18:10)
* AGREED: 2246800 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is accepted
as an FE to prevent problems for early upgraders, it's not an
important package so can't really break anything important (adamw,
17:20:46)
* (2225688) Macaulay2: FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f39 (adamw, 17:20:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2225688 (adamw,
17:20:56)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1425
(adamw, 17:20:56)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, Macaulay2, NEW (adamw, 17:20:56)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+1,0,-2) (+zbyszek, -nielsenb,
-lruzicka) (adamw, 17:20:56)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3088#comment-880845 (adamw,
17:22:54)
* AGREED: 2225688 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is accepted
on churchyard's justification: avoid the old interface provides
being permanently available in the frozen release repo (adamw,
17:27:38)
* 2246428 has sufficient ticket votes to be accepted, we will process
it outside the meeting (adamw, 17:28:10)
* Accepted Blocker status review (adamw, 17:28:22)
* the config issue that caused 2246385 is fixed, so that should be
resolved whenever we create the next RC (adamw, 17:28:41)
* 2113005 is on track to be waived (adamw, 17:29:00)
* (2246410) Failed media check immediately disappears on bare metal,
shows a black screen instead (adamw, 17:29:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246410 (adamw,
17:29:06)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1423
(adamw, 17:29:06)
* Accepted Blocker, dracut, NEW (adamw, 17:29:06)
* we kinda understand what's going on here, but it's proving to be a
pain to fix (adamw, 17:32:54)
* i'm hoping to have some kind of fix/workaround available for testing
today (adamw, 17:33:10)
* (2241252) U-Boot fails to load kernel provided DTs from /boot (RPi4
boots to blank screen) (adamw, 17:35:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241252 (adamw,
17:35:34)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1352
(adamw, 17:35:34)
* Accepted Blocker, uboot-tools, VERIFIED (adamw, 17:35:34)
* testing of various Pis and non-Pis over the weekend hasn't turned up
any graphics issues, so this is looking good (adamw, 17:54:17)
* (2244305) Fedora Server 39 does not boot on Raspberry Pi 4 (RPi4) from
microSD card slot (adamw, 17:54:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2244305 (adamw,
17:54:43)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1411
(adamw, 17:54:43)
* Accepted Blocker, uboot-tools, VERIFIED (adamw, 17:54:43)
* this area is a bit messy, but we believe the issue happens rarely
enough with rc1.2 to consider it addressed (adamw, 18:06:46)
* Proposed blocker redux (adamw, 18:06:52)
* (2246871) F39 Server Edition for aarch64 SBC disk image is not
bootable (adamw, 18:07:03)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246871 (adamw,
18:07:03)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1429
(adamw, 18:07:03)
* Proposed Blocker, arm-image-installer, NEW (adamw, 18:07:03)
* AGREED: 2246871 - punt (delay decision) - it is unclear if there is
actually a bug here (and if so, if it is in the image or the script)
as pboy and pwhalen do not get the same results. decision is delayed
until the situation can be clarified (adamw, 18:14:04)
* Open floor (adamw, 18:14:06)
Meeting ended at 18:23:25 UTC.
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* (none)
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* nirik (45)
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* kparal (43)
* coremodule (29)
* Son_Goku (22)
* thebeanogamer (17)
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Notification time stamped 2023-10-30 18:06:45 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-3: Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting
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Meeting started by phsmoura at 18:00:29 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops (phsmoura,
18:00:30)
* agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily (phsmoura,
18:00:30)
* reminder: speak up if you want to work on a ticket! (phsmoura,
18:02:25)
* Tickets needing review (phsmoura, 18:02:26)
* Planning, Upcoming work and Open floor (phsmoura, 18:02:59)
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Notification time stamped 2023-10-26 19:59:19 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: F39 Final Go/No-Go meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 17:00:41 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 17:00:52)
* nirik will represent release engineering (adamw, 17:03:12)
* sgallagh_ will represent fesco (adamw, 17:03:27)
* kparal will represent QA (adamw, 17:03:43)
* amoloney is busy ATM so I will run the meeting for now, we may hand
off when she's back (adamw, 17:09:29)
* Purpose of this meeting (adamw, 17:11:20)
* Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F39 Final is
ready for shipment, according to the release criteria. (adamw,
17:11:20)
* This is determined in a few ways: (adamw, 17:11:20)
* 1. Release candidate compose is available (adamw, 17:11:20)
* 2. No remaining blocker bugs (adamw, 17:11:21)
* 3. Test matrices are fully completed (adamw, 17:11:23)
* 4. Fedora CoreOS and IoT are ready (adamw, 17:11:25)
* Current status - RC (adamw, 17:11:30)
* we have, not just one, but *two* exciting RCs! (adamw, 17:11:49)
* RC-1.1 had no attempt to address the ARM blockers, RC-1.2 has a
rollback of uboot-tools to an earlier version (adamw, 17:12:14)
* Current status - blockers (adamw, 17:12:29)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/39/final/buglist
(adamw, 17:12:29)
* (2246385) F39 RC1.2 images have sometimes "RC" in their name (adamw,
17:14:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246385 (adamw,
17:14:13)
* Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (adamw, 17:14:13)
* we're gonna consider the other blocker first as it's a clearer case,
and come back to this (adamw, 17:22:13)
* (2246410) Failed media check immediately disappears on bare metal,
shows a black screen instead (adamw, 17:22:25)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246410 (adamw,
17:22:25)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (adamw, 17:22:26)
* LINK:
https://github.com/dracutdevs/dracut/blob/master/modules.d/90dmsquash-live/…
(adamw, 17:27:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246410#c3
(adamw, 17:33:38)
* (2246385) F39 RC1.2 images have sometimes "RC" in their name (adamw,
17:37:26)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246385 (adamw,
17:37:26)
* Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (adamw, 17:37:26)
* there is strong support for a criterion requiring that the final
release image names do not indicate in any way that they are *not*
final images (adamw, 17:46:55)
* AGREED: 2246385 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
blocker as a violation of the criterion we agreed in principle ought
to exist, requiring Final image names not to indicate that they are
not Final in any way (adamw, 17:52:55)
* Accepted blocker review (adamw, 17:54:26)
* 2241632 - haven't had time to check yet, but pretty sure this ought
to be fixed in 1.2 (adamw, 17:54:39)
* (2113005) Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2
fails to boot on some boards (adamw, 17:54:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005 (adamw,
17:54:56)
* Accepted Blocker, shim, NEW (adamw, 17:54:56)
* AGREED: 2113005 is waived to Fedora 40 Beta under the "Difficult to
fix blocker bugs" category -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process#Exceptional_cases
(adamw, 17:57:11)
* (2241252) U-Boot fails to load kernel provided DTs from /boot (RPi4
boots to blank screen) (adamw, 17:58:31)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241252 (adamw,
17:58:31)
* Accepted Blocker, uboot-tools, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:58:31)
* LINK: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/4575 perhaps?
(nirik, 18:32:10)
* nielsenb seems to have a problem on Workstation where his display
goes blank shortly after gnome-initial-setup appears, but other
testers have not been able to reproduce this (adamw, 18:41:33)
* we also discovered a bug in the fedora-arm-image-installer script
which means it will not write Server images correctly. this can be
corrected outside of the compose process (adamw, 18:44:38)
* (2244305) Fedora Server 39 does not boot on Raspberry Pi 4 (RPi4) from
microSD card slot (adamw, 18:44:54)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2244305 (adamw,
18:44:54)
* Accepted Blocker, uboot-tools, MODIFIED (adamw, 18:44:54)
* the original reporter's
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2244305#c20 indicates
that this is fixed (adamw, 18:47:58)
* (2246385) F39 RC1.2 images have sometimes "RC" in their name (redux)
(adamw, 18:52:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246385 (adamw,
18:52:09)
* Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (adamw, 18:52:09)
* AGREED: there is no support for waiving this, so it is considered an
unaddressed blocker (adamw, 19:00:39)
* (2246410) Failed media check immediately disappears on bare metal,
shows a black screen instead (redux) (adamw, 19:00:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246410 (adamw,
19:01:01)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (adamw, 19:01:02)
* there is some support for waiving this bug if it will allow us to
ship this week, but we kinda need to work through the rest of the
meeting first. let's table it (adamw, 19:05:44)
* new proposed blocker (adamw, 19:06:58)
* (2246428) No display on monitor on Server images on some Raspberry Pi
variants due to bug in firmware DTB (adamw, 19:07:00)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2246428 (adamw,
19:07:00)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1424
(adamw, 19:07:00)
* Proposed Blocker, uboot-tools, NEW (adamw, 19:07:00)
* AGREED: 2246428 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this is rejected on the
basis that display is less important for the Server case, it doesn't
affect all variants, and there is a workaround (nomodeset) (adamw,
19:21:06)
* Current status - test matrices (adamw, 19:22:12)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_39_Test_Results
(adamw, 19:22:12)
* test coverage is mostly good but with a few gaps: missing real-world
cloud testing, and macOS and Workstation system settings tests
haven't been run since 20231014.n.0 nightly (adamw, 19:27:09)
* Fedora CoreOS / IoT check-in (adamw, 19:27:30)
* coreos and iot report that they are in good shape for release, we
will pick an iot compose to ship once we've decided what to ship for
the fedora compose and pushed things stable (adamw, 19:32:31)
* Go/No-Go decision (adamw, 19:32:48)
* we have two unaddressed accepted blockers, "(2246385) F39 RC1.2
images have sometimes "RC" in their name" and "(2246410) Failed
media check immediately disappears on bare metal, shows a black
screen instead" (adamw, 19:34:01)
* AGREED: Fedora Linux 39 Final is NO-GO (adamw, 19:55:02)
* The next F39 Final Go/No-Go meeting will be Thursday, 2023-11-02 at
1700 UTC (adamw, 19:55:21)
* F39 Final shifts to target date #3: Tuesday 2023-11-07 (adamw,
19:55:47)
Meeting ended at 19:59:19 UTC.
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* (none)
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Notification time stamped 2023-10-26 17:37:38 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-2: FESCO (2023-10-26)
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Meeting started by tstellar at 17:00:37 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* init process (tstellar, 17:00:56)
* #3084 Re-evaluate -fno-omit-frame-pointer compile flag for F40
(tstellar, 17:04:16)
* AGREED: FESCo indicates that there is nothing that indicates we need
to do anything for -fno-omit-frame-pointer change. (+7, 0, -1)
(Son_Goku, 17:27:15)
* Next week's chair (tstellar, 17:27:50)
* ACTION: tstellar will chair next meeting (tstellar, 17:31:45)
* Open Floor (tstellar, 17:31:58)
Meeting ended at 17:37:38 UTC.
Action Items
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* tstellar will chair next meeting
Action Items, by person
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* tstellar will chair next meeting
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