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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-04-26)
by Alick Zhao 26 Apr '13

26 Apr '13

Hi all, The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the link [1]. Thanks everyone for attending the meeting. In the meeting we mainly talked about FUDCon APAC 2014 bid tasks, and FPWiki Zh page updates. Please review the proposed ideas and actions. The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-05-03). Please come and join the discussion if you can! Note the beginning time of the meeting is 21:00 (UTC+8). [1]: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-04-26/fedora-zh.2013-04-26-… ================== #fedora-zh Meeting ================== Meeting started by alick at 13:02:27 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-04-26/fedora-zh.2013-04-26-… . Meeting summary --------------- * 点名 (alick, 13:02:35) * FUDCON APAC 2014 举办申请 (alick, 13:06:16) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2014 (alick, 13:07:27) * * 候选会议场地 (alick, 13:11:22) * * 周边住宿、交通、费用信息 (alick, 13:11:46) * * 主题征集 (alick, 13:12:08) * * 赞助、宣传等 (alick, 13:12:48) * IDEA: 问完场地选择的问题后，不管什么结果都在邮件列表里说一下吧 (endle_, 13:27:40) * ACTION: dongfengweixiao acquire info about CAS (alick, 13:27:50) * ACTION: alick acquire info about thu as possible host place (alick, 13:28:22) * IDEA: someone 考虑联系一些高端大气的饭店~ (alick, 13:33:27) * IDEA: 请京外童鞋协助整理外地/外国到北京的交通信息 (alick, 13:39:54) * ACTION: endle负责查看整理东北国内的航班信息 (endle_, 13:43:13) * FPWiki Zh 页面的整理更新 (alick, 13:44:47) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zh (alick, 13:45:07) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zh/zh-cn (endle_, 13:47:21) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FZUGCommunicate (alick, 13:49:30) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zh/Communicate/LUG (alick, 13:51:22) * IDEA: 检查FZUGCommunicate (endle_, 13:57:02) Meeting ended at 14:03:25 UTC. Action Items ------------ * dongfengweixiao acquire info about CAS * alick acquire info about thu as possible host place * endle负责查看整理东北国内的航班信息 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * alick * alick acquire info about thu as possible host place * dongfengweixiao * dongfengweixiao acquire info about CAS * **UNASSIGNED** * endle负责查看整理东北国内的航班信息 People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * alick (88) * dongfengweixiao (46) * endle_ (41) * cicku (29) * zsun (25) * BadGirl (7) * zodbot (6) * diseng (2) * microcai (2) * wankey (2) * CyrusYzGTt (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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i18n meeting summary (2013-04-25)
by Akira TAGOH 26 Apr '13

26 Apr '13

===================== #fedora-meeting: i18n ===================== Meeting started by tagoh_ at 06:03:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-04-25/i18n.2013-04-25-… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (tagoh_, 06:03:10) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-04-25 (tagoh_, 06:03:11) * Upcoming schedule (tagoh_, 06:06:02) * 2013-05-02 Test_Day:2013-05-02_Localization_(i18n) (tagoh_, 06:06:02) * 2013-05-06 Wiki Freeze: Beta Release Notes (tagoh_, 06:06:03) * 2013-05-07 Software Translation Deadline (tagoh_, 06:06:03) * 2013-05-14 Beta Change Deadline (tagoh_, 06:06:03) * 2013-05-14 Features 100% Complete (tagoh_, 06:06:04) * 2013-05-28 Beta Release (tagoh_, 06:06:05) * Outstanding topics (tagoh_, 06:07:51) * #16: Improving testcases/matrix for i18n test day (tagoh) (tagoh_, 06:07:51) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/16 (tagoh_, 06:07:52) * #18: F19 i18n docbeats (tagoh) (tagoh_, 06:38:55) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/18 (tagoh_, 06:38:55) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat (tagoh_, 06:39:12) * New topic (tagoh_, 07:10:05) * #19: gnu-free-fonts issue for Indic (aalam) (tagoh_, 07:10:05) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/19 (tagoh_, 07:10:06) * Open Floor (tagoh_, 07:45:49) * LINK: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=607419 (tagoh_, 07:59:23) Meeting ended at 08:04:35 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tagoh_ (102) * juhp (52) * Alam (35) * fujiwarat (14) * paragan (13) * zodbot (8) * mfabian (4) * epico (4) * pravins (4) * anish__ (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-04-25)
by Kevin Fenzi 25 Apr '13

25 Apr '13

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-04-25) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-04-25/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:01) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 19:01:31) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:02:39) * fedocal and blockerbugs apps are heading to production (nirik, 19:02:57) * pkgdb release to prod today already. ;) (nirik, 19:03:13) * new fedoratagger in production (threebean, 19:03:22) * ask02 created and in service now. (nirik, 19:05:55) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=955781 (threebean, 19:06:31) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:13:18) * added hosted03/hosted04/collab03/collab04/fedocal01/fedocal02/blockerbugs01/blockerbugs02/ask02 in the last few days. (nirik, 19:13:58) * outage for hosted move tomorrow. (nirik, 19:14:39) * bugzilla will be updated soon to 4.4 (nirik, 19:17:30) * will send email about backups and revamping them to the list soon. (nirik, 19:22:25) * LINK: https://www.redhat.com/archives/bugzilla-announce-list/2013-April/msg00002.… (pingou, 19:26:08) * bugzilla upgrade scheduled for evening of the 27th (nirik, 19:26:17) * Private Cloud status update / discussion (nirik, 19:27:08) * ready to install on fed-cloud01/03 for a test cloudlet (nirik, 19:28:13) * will look at using RDO to install test cloudlet (nirik, 19:30:11) * will look at adding cinder volumes from each of the compute nodes to increase available volume space. (nirik, 19:32:40) * skvidal working on f19a image for cloud (nirik, 19:33:27) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:35:10) * 2013-04-26 - 19UTC hosted migration/switch hosted to openid (nirik, 19:35:34) * 2013-04-27 - bugzilla 4.4 upgrade? (tenative) (nirik, 19:35:34) * 2013-04-30 - 21UTC lists.fedoraproject.org migration. (nirik, 19:35:34) * 2013-05-01 nag fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:35:34) * 2013-05-08 drop inactive apprentices (nirik, 19:35:34) * 2013-05-14 to 2013-05-28 BETA infrastructure freeze (nirik, 19:35:34) * 2013-05-28 F19 beta release (nirik, 19:35:34) * new bladecenter should arrive sometime in the next few weeks hopefully. (nirik, 19:39:43) * new netapp space should arrive sometime in the next few weeks or so (nirik, 19:39:56) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:42:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_FedoraBugzilla <- do we want to bring that up on list(s) and start getting more input? (nirik, 19:43:06) Meeting ended at 19:57:58 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (142) * skvidal (64) * abadger1999 (26) * pingou (24) * tflink (24) * cyberworm54 (6) * threebean (6) * kushalkhandelwal (6) * zodbot (4) * jerzyr (2) * Smoother1rOgZ (1) * ausmarton (1) * lmacken (1) * smooge (1) * rdieter (1) * relrod (1) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * dgilmore (0) * CodeBlock (0) -- 19:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-04-25) 19:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr 25 19:00:00 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:01 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 19:00:08 * relrod here 19:00:18 * lmacken 19:00:19 * ausmarton is here 19:00:29 * pingou here 19:00:30 <jerzyr> is here - rl9x4 ;) 19:00:33 * threebean is here 19:00:47 * abadger1999 here 19:00:49 * tflink is here 19:01:25 <nirik> cool. lets go ahead and start in... 19:01:31 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. 19:01:37 * cyberworm54 is here 19:01:39 <nirik> any new folks? or apprentices with questions or comments? 19:02:08 <cyberworm54> ...... 19:02:19 <nirik> do note everyone should feel free to chime in with questions or comments as we go. ;) 19:02:39 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:02:46 <nirik> so, new application news? 19:02:57 <nirik> #info fedocal and blockerbugs apps are heading to production 19:03:13 <nirik> #info pkgdb release to prod today already. ;) 19:03:22 <threebean> #info new fedoratagger in production 19:03:33 <pingou> something to test and provide feedback on: http://209.132.184.188/ 19:03:44 <pingou> (lazy Sunday work) 19:04:04 <nirik> cool. nice looking there pingou! 19:04:31 <pingou> nirik: I will not hide where the inspiration from the theme comes from ;) 19:04:39 <pingou> s/from/for/ 19:05:02 * skvidal is here 19:05:03 <nirik> threebean: if you have time, a email with the tagger changes to devel list or something would be good. Like abadger1999 did for the pkgdb one? 19:05:05 <skvidal> sorry I am late 19:05:11 * nirik wonders if we shouldn't send those to devel-announce 19:05:18 <nirik> welcome skvidal 19:05:33 <threebean> nirik: will do.. I'm just waiting on a little feedback from hughsie first. 19:05:43 <nirik> cool. 19:05:50 <threebean> datagrepper should be on its way to staging soon, we're just waiting on a package review. 19:05:54 <pingou> threebean: not sure we'll have it before tomorrow, it's 21:00 for him 19:05:55 <nirik> #info ask02 created and in service now. 19:06:31 <threebean> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=955781 19:06:39 <nirik> I need to take ask01 out soon and reinstall it. Might wait for tomorrow on that tho 19:07:37 <nirik> pingou / tflink: so the openid support in fedocal/blockerbugs is waiting on a flask openid? or just time to recode the login stuff? 19:08:03 <pingou> nirik: mostly flask openid, a little bit of coding/ui changes for fedocal 19:08:15 <tflink> nirik: mostly coding changes and testing for blockerbugs 19:08:45 <tflink> I was waiting for things to stabilize after all the changes for infra before swapping out FAS 19:08:46 <nirik> ok, just trying to see where things were... 19:09:00 <nirik> python-flask-openid-1.0.1-1.el6 is in epel-testing 19:09:29 <kushalkhandelwal> Hi , I am Kushal Khandelwal an engineering undergraduate from India and I would like to be part of Infrastructure team. 19:09:40 <nirik> welcome kushalkhandelwal 19:09:58 <kushalkhandelwal> Thank you for the welcome nirik 19:10:21 <kushalkhandelwal> How should I get started , any guidance would be helpful 19:10:34 <nirik> kushalkhandelwal: were you more interested in sysadmin tasks? or application development? 19:11:00 <kushalkhandelwal> Sysadmin tasks 19:11:11 <kushalkhandelwal> and more interested in being a packager 19:11:36 <nirik> ok, see me after the meeting in #fedora-admin and we can add you to our sysadmin apprentice group... 19:11:43 <nirik> for packager, you want #fedora-devel 19:12:07 <nirik> anyone have other application news? 19:12:19 <kushalkhandelwal> Sure , would do that nirik 19:12:34 <pingou> threebean: also had a nice and productive week-end 19:13:18 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:13:25 <nirik> ok, on the sysadmin side... lets see. 19:13:58 <nirik> #info added hosted03/hosted04/collab03/collab04/fedocal01/fedocal02/blockerbugs01/blockerbugs02/ask02 in the last few days. 19:14:28 <threebean> :) 19:14:34 <jerzyr> :) 19:14:39 <nirik> #info outage for hosted move tomorrow. 19:14:42 <abadger1999> (re: python-flask-openid -- it's available for infra boxes. But you'll want to make sure you apply the hotfix from puppet too) 19:14:47 <nirik> I'm going to move hosted02 -> hosted03 tomorrow. 19:15:08 <nirik> early next week, I am going to have an outage to move collab02->collab03 19:16:00 <nirik> we need to get monitoring added for all the new hosts. I might file some easyfix tickets for those. 19:16:37 <nirik> any other things we want to note or discuss on the sysadmin side? 19:17:12 * skvidal tries to remember 19:17:16 <abadger1999> bugzilla update? 19:17:23 <nirik> oh yeah. 19:17:25 <abadger1999> that's both sysadmin and app 19:17:30 <nirik> #info bugzilla will be updated soon to 4.4 19:17:50 <nirik> we have started to check things, but not everything is checked/done yet 19:18:06 <nirik> lmacken: any idea if bodhi is ok with new python-bugzilla? 19:18:10 * nirik checks the rest of the list. 19:18:51 <nirik> I think we are left with: 19:18:53 <nirik> FAS bugzilla sync 19:18:53 <nirik> PKGDB bugzilla sync 19:18:55 <tflink> IIRC, I had to change my code for modifying and updating bugs with the new python-bugzilla 19:18:59 <nirik> Bodhi 19:19:00 <abadger1999> pkgdb-sync definitely broken 19:19:03 <nirik> cnucnu 19:19:22 <skvidal> nirik: any movement on the backups - or is that waiting on netapp? 19:19:27 <abadger1999> Seems taht bugzilla server is just too slow 19:19:44 <nirik> abadger1999: might try the python-bugzilla list too... since you didn't get answers on irc. 19:19:52 <abadger1999> <nod> 19:20:12 <nirik> skvidal: yeah. So, I need to write up a mail on our current backups and what we have, then we need to wait for new netapp space to do something better. 19:20:53 <nirik> skvidal: I am thinking we can work something with rdiff-backup and then backup that to tape as desired. and also drop a bunch of things that aren't useful. 19:20:53 <abadger1999> My plan for today was to explore just gettingit working with the json url then report to python-bugzilla list the hack and see if they have any ideas for improving it. 19:21:04 <skvidal> nirik: yah agreed 19:21:08 <abadger1999> If it really is serverside slowness, I don't htink python-bugzilla will have any solutions 19:21:19 * Smoother1rOgZ is here 19:21:22 <skvidal> nirik: we've chatted about it before - but I think we can make our backups a lot simpler to deal with the common restore cases 19:21:25 <nirik> abadger1999: :( yeah, is the json one available in prod? 19:21:35 <nirik> skvidal: completely agreed. 19:21:41 <abadger1999> nirik: hmm... actually, I kinda doubt it. I'll check. 19:21:51 <nirik> skvidal: also, we can plan in opt in backups for cloud instances, etc. 19:22:04 <skvidal> nirik: indeed 19:22:25 <nirik> #info will send email about backups and revamping them to the list soon. 19:23:23 <nirik> ok, anything else sysadmin wise? 19:23:59 <skvidal> nirik: where do you want to go next on ansible migration? 19:24:04 <skvidal> since we're out of freeze 19:24:07 <nirik> oh, on the bugzilla thing still... I couldn't find a hard date on when the update would happen, but it was mentioned before to be 26th/27th... 19:24:10 <skvidal> any particular simple wins you want? 19:24:45 <nirik> yeah, so I was trying to migrate enough tasks over to be able to run against an arm SOC and set it up as a releng or qa machine. 19:24:52 <pingou> The upgrade will take place on the evening of April 27th (EDT). 19:24:55 <pingou> for bz 19:24:56 <nirik> so, if we could finish that up to that point it would be excellent. 19:25:00 <pingou> from the bz-announce-list 19:25:12 <nirik> pingou: I saw mention of that a while back, but nothing recently confirming it... 19:25:24 <pingou> nirik: the email is from Monday 19:25:29 <nirik> ok, cool. 19:25:42 <nirik> so, we don't have much time. ;) 19:25:54 <tflink> yeah, that date was set a while ago but I thought it was pushed out until that email went out on monday 19:26:08 <pingou> https://www.redhat.com/archives/bugzilla-announce-list/2013-April/msg00002.… 19:26:17 <nirik> #info bugzilla upgrade scheduled for evening of the 27th 19:26:25 <pingou> also of interest for the apps dev, lists a changes for the RPC calls 19:27:08 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update / discussion 19:27:20 <nirik> so, skvidal has been fighting a fight with the cloud this week. ;( 19:27:31 <skvidal> and am still doing it 19:27:47 <abadger1999> pingou: thanks! 19:27:47 <skvidal> it's like I have a special job in life - to fight private clouds 19:27:49 <nirik> yeah, such a rabbit hole. ;( 19:27:53 <skvidal> on the plus side 19:28:02 <skvidal> it is an acknowledged issue upstream 19:28:10 <skvidal> so we're not just 'special' in experiencing it 19:28:13 <nirik> #info ready to install on fed-cloud01/03 for a test cloudlet 19:28:18 <nirik> thats good at least 19:28:30 <skvidal> nirik: rdo on cloudlet? 19:28:42 <skvidal> nirik: seems like a good place to jump to, to me 19:28:43 <nirik> so, is rdo just the repos? 19:28:45 <nirik> or ? 19:28:51 <skvidal> nirik: ? 19:28:55 <skvidal> nirik: it's the pkgs 19:29:00 <skvidal> and the installer stuff 19:29:04 <nirik> I mean, does it use puppet and have it's own installer? 19:29:12 <skvidal> sadly, yes 19:29:15 <nirik> ok. ;( 19:29:27 <skvidal> aiui it is the packstack stuff 19:29:31 <nirik> but yeah, a grizzley one to test both rdo and grizzley out would be good. 19:29:38 <skvidal> nod 19:29:48 <nirik> and that would get us on a setup thats very 'standard' I would hope 19:30:11 <nirik> #info will look at using RDO to install test cloudlet 19:30:29 <nirik> skvidal: so, right now are those new nodes in the cloud? or out? 19:30:39 <skvidal> in 19:30:42 <skvidal> 05 and 07 are in 19:30:49 <skvidal> and RIGHT now they are working fine 19:30:55 <nirik> ok, cool. 19:30:56 <skvidal> the tricks are, of course, the dhcp lease timeouts 19:31:01 <skvidal> which I set down quite low this morning 19:31:05 <skvidal> means more dhcp noise 19:31:07 <nirik> so any idea how much capacity we have available? still lots? 19:31:10 <skvidal> but we are LESS likely of hitting the issue 19:31:23 <skvidal> well - we added room for what? 48 cpus? 19:31:30 <skvidal> so. yah - lots 19:31:35 <nirik> also, we still need to add more cinders I guess. 19:31:36 <skvidal> and network-wise we have plenty of room 19:31:40 <tflink> skvidal: yeah, I noticed that on one of my nodes this morning :) 19:31:42 <skvidal> yes - cinder is the next bit 19:31:50 <skvidal> tflink: oh yah - no option, sadly 19:32:07 <tflink> it explains why there were so many dhcp messages in syslog 19:32:13 <skvidal> yah 19:32:21 <skvidal> it has to do with dnsmasq-dhcp holding onto leases 19:32:32 <skvidal> despite having their config changed and being kill-HUP'd 19:32:40 <nirik> #info will look at adding cinder volumes from each of the compute nodes to increase available volume space. 19:32:46 <skvidal> they are holding onto lease timeouts from terminated instances 19:33:08 <skvidal> nirik: on my list of things today is to try out the f19 alpha image as an instance in the cloudlet 19:33:18 <nirik> yeah, that would be nice too for sure. 19:33:27 <nirik> #info skvidal working on f19a image for cloud 19:33:40 <skvidal> nirik: I talked to mattdm about it 19:33:48 <nirik> just use ks and make our own? 19:33:49 <skvidal> nothing dramatic left on it - so I'm going to dupe our f18 img 19:33:52 <skvidal> nirik: nod 19:33:57 <skvidal> well dupe our f18 ks 19:34:02 <nirik> ok 19:34:19 <skvidal> I'm still chasing potential solutions to rhe external ip routing issue 19:34:21 <skvidal> with openstack 19:34:35 <nirik> cool. Hopefully we can find a workaround. 19:34:36 <skvidal> anyway - off in the weeds 19:34:43 <nirik> any other cloudy news? 19:34:56 <skvidal> nothing leaps to mind 19:35:10 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:35:34 <nirik> <stand by for info dump> 19:35:34 <nirik> #info 2013-04-26 - 19UTC hosted migration/switch hosted to openid 19:35:34 <nirik> #info 2013-04-27 - bugzilla 4.4 upgrade? (tenative) 19:35:34 <nirik> #info 2013-04-30 - 21UTC lists.fedoraproject.org migration. 19:35:34 <nirik> #info 2013-05-01 nag fi-apprentices 19:35:34 <nirik> #info 2013-05-08 drop inactive apprentices 19:35:34 <nirik> #info 2013-05-14 to 2013-05-28 BETA infrastructure freeze 19:35:34 <nirik> #info 2013-05-28 F19 beta release 19:35:40 <nirik> any other items folks would like to schedule or note? 19:35:56 <pingou> àny date for fedocal and tflink's app? 19:36:14 <nirik> I was thinking later today or tomorrow. 19:36:21 <nirik> the instances are all built 19:36:33 <nirik> we just need to move the modules into production and setup proxy stuff 19:36:38 <pingou> tomorrow will be fine for me, but early then (I have star-wars marathon planned in the evening) 19:36:45 <nirik> nice. ;) 19:36:54 <abadger1999> Note, I saw a howto this week on amking tg1 apps use openid to auth. So it would be possible to migrate unported apps to fas-openid if we decide to establish a drop-dead date sometime in the future. 19:37:16 <nirik> abadger1999: cool. What apps are TG1 again? 19:37:29 <pingou> nirik: I had the same question ;) 19:37:45 <abadger1999> nirik: right now -- pkgdb, elections, bodhi, mirrormanager 19:37:47 <abadger1999> fas 19:37:49 <pingou> currently, FAS, pkgdb, elections, mirrormanager, bodhi 19:37:57 <abadger1999> (but fas won't use fas_openid for obvious reasons :-) 19:38:04 <nirik> why not? :) 19:38:07 * nirik kids 19:38:11 <abadger1999> :-) 19:38:24 <pingou> the most problematic in this list is MM 19:38:35 <nirik> so yeah, that could be valuable if that works easier than porting them. 19:38:38 <abadger1999> Everything except for mirrormanager has a planto migrate to a different framework in the coming year 19:38:44 <nirik> yeah. 19:38:56 <abadger1999> the ones going to flask have a provider written curtousey of puiterwijk 19:39:14 <nirik> ok 19:39:17 <abadger1999> the ones going to pyramid and tg2 may need to have a provider written for them. 19:39:27 <nirik> so, also coming up, but I have no dates for yet: 19:39:33 <pingou> packages is the last TG2 app, correct? 19:39:43 <nirik> #info new bladecenter should arrive sometime in the next few weeks hopefully. 19:39:46 <abadger1999> (If they need group info, they'll need more than a generic openid identity provider) 19:39:56 <nirik> #info new netapp space should arrive sometime in the next few weeks or so 19:40:02 <abadger1999> pingou: I think so. threebean, lmacken-- do you guys know that? 19:40:13 <abadger1999> pingou: oh -- and maybe the undeployed badger app? tahrir? 19:40:21 <abadger1999> *sigh* s/badger/badges/ 19:40:22 <pingou> abadger1999: good point 19:41:09 * abadger1999 needs to write a badger app Then everyone else can have my same difficulty 19:41:27 <cyberworm54> so...stupid question.....what happens if I restart libvirtd and vms are running? >.> 19:41:39 <cyberworm54> actually wrong channel 19:41:49 <cyberworm54> I meant to post that on #rhel 19:41:52 <nirik> :) 19:41:55 <cyberworm54> sorry 19:41:57 <tflink> abadger1999: an app to badger people? interesting :) 19:42:11 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:42:17 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor? 19:42:20 <abadger1999> tflink: Maybe it could tie into fedocal ;-) 19:42:35 <nirik> so, one thing I've not done much on lately... 19:43:06 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_FedoraBugzilla <- do we want to bring that up on list(s) and start getting more input? 19:44:12 * nirik might try and poke at it more, we will need to gather requirements I think to move forward much 19:44:21 <tflink> didn't someone bring up the idea of bugs associated with multiple components? 19:44:28 <nirik> tflink: yeah. 19:44:50 <nirik> there's lots of ways to rework things if starting from the ground up. 19:44:59 <nirik> or things to try and accomodate anyhow. 19:45:24 <tflink> assuming that it's worth all 19:45:31 <tflink> the effort, anyways 19:45:43 <nirik> yeah. 19:45:49 <nirik> and it would be a lot of effort. 19:45:57 * pingou has the same feeling: is it worth it? 19:46:33 <nirik> well, it's really: 19:46:45 <tflink> nirik: did you ever run the scalability test you were talking about? 19:47:01 <nirik> fedmsg and openid / not having those 19:47:11 <nirik> tflink: the 15,000 component test? 19:47:14 <tflink> yeah 19:47:28 <nirik> yeah, I did. 19:47:41 <nirik> it makes any pages with that on it take like 12-14 seconds to load 19:48:03 <tflink> yikes 19:48:22 <nirik> so, another thought was to do a tracker per component, but then there needs to be a way to move things between and find the tracker you want 19:48:23 <skvidal> tflink: so we looked at other ticket systems 19:48:35 <skvidal> tflink: notably debian doesn't have a list/pull down of pkgs :) 19:48:59 <skvidal> if we did one tracker per component we'd need to write some brand new code to move things between components 19:49:11 <skvidal> the long and short is - dumping 15000 items in a list works not well 19:49:45 <nirik> I can look at making a better demo for roundup thats closer to what we want and see if I can get openid in it so anyone can test it. 19:50:15 <skvidal> nirik: so - unless we can crack the nut of the list of pkgs 19:50:18 <tflink> it would be nice to have a single account system as well 19:50:28 <skvidal> I am not sure we're better off in roundup 19:50:49 <nirik> tflink: yeah, the 2 things that even make us consider this: fedmsg and openid support. ;) 19:51:18 <nirik> skvidal: yeah, although it sounds like bugzilla is going to not use the list anymore either soon, or at least they were talking about not. 19:51:32 <skvidal> nirik: they expecting users to input the pkg name? 19:51:33 <tflink> nirik: good point, I wasn't thinking about openid and FAS as the same thing 19:51:36 <skvidal> I didn't see that discussion 19:52:04 <skvidal> tflink: well and if we were clever it might be somehting like $component.bugz.fedoraproject.org 19:52:31 <tflink> so it's the pages that load all 15,000 components that take a long time to load? 19:52:42 <nirik> it looks liek they are looking at a widget that searches name/description and shows some small number of matches. 19:52:52 <nirik> tflink: in bz? or roundup? 19:52:56 <tflink> either 19:53:06 <nirik> yeah, both are slow with 15k components. 19:53:12 <nirik> it's just a lot of data 19:53:31 <skvidal> nirik: gotcha 19:53:39 <tflink> I wonder how hard it would be to do a google-style dynamic dropdown based on text entry 19:53:46 <nirik> roundup is a lot faster for other pages... but that could be that it has less data, etc. 19:53:49 <tflink> but that sounds kinda like what nirik is talking about 19:54:00 <nirik> tflink: yeah, thats exactly what they were talking about doing for bz. 19:54:02 <skvidal> tflink: that's exactly what he';s saying 19:54:10 <nirik> I'm not sure if it's done/landing, but they were talking about it. 19:54:18 * skvidal has another solution for this 19:54:21 <skvidal> fewer packages 19:54:23 <skvidal> :) 19:54:33 <tflink> always an option :) 19:54:42 <nirik> yeah, lets drop all the ones that start with 'p' and that would save us a lot. 19:54:50 <tflink> would we have saner package:component mapping this way? 19:55:10 <nirik> tflink: another NTH thing would be subcomponents. 19:55:12 <tflink> I suppose it's not that bad, now that I think about it harder 19:55:27 <nirik> kernel -> filesystems -> btrfs 19:55:35 <tflink> just ran into some oddness when I was trying to map updates->bzcomponents 19:55:56 <nirik> anyhow, I think we are still not sure if this is worth it, but further discussion would be good I think. 19:56:07 <nirik> also, possibly more in person/higher BW discussion at flock or something. 19:56:09 <skvidal> nirik: I hear 'g' is a troublesome letter too 19:56:25 <pingou> skvidal: followed by k? 19:56:30 <skvidal> yes 19:56:34 <nirik> just leave 'x' 19:56:45 <rdieter> t* 19:57:02 <nirik> anyhow, any other open floor items? or shall we call it a meeting? 19:57:08 <abadger1999> l* 19:57:12 <smooge> it is a meeting 19:57:32 <pingou> congratulations smooge ! 19:57:54 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone. :) Do continue over in #fedora-admin, #fedora-apps and #fedora-noc 19:57:58 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2013-04-25)
by Kevin Fenzi 25 Apr '13

25 Apr '13

============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2013-04-25) ============================================= Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-04-25/irc-support-sig.… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 18:00:01) * Week in review (nirik, 18:01:17) * ticket #144 #fedora +quiet incident (nirik, 18:04:10) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/144 (nirik, 18:04:10) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:07:29) Meeting ended at 18:10:39 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (27) * DiscordianUK (13) * zodbot (3) * Southern_Gentlem (3) * Khaytsus (2) * dcr226 (1) * rwmjones (1) -- 18:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2013-04-25) 18:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr 25 18:00:00 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:00 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 18:00:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 18:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process 18:00:01 * Khaytsus 18:00:19 <nirik> who all is around for a irc support sig meeting? 18:00:21 * DiscordianUK is here 18:00:24 * Khaytsus 18:00:30 * Southern_Gentlem 18:01:06 * nirik passes out bacon to all. 18:01:14 <nirik> ok, lets dive in... 18:01:17 <nirik> #topic Week in review 18:01:25 <nirik> anything folks want to note from the previous week? 18:01:32 <nirik> common bugs coming up? issues? suggestions? 18:01:35 <DiscordianUK> Still fairly quiet 18:01:57 <nirik> FYI, anyone looking for the Fedora Board meeting, it's in #fedora-meeting-1 18:02:15 <DiscordianUK> we're seeing folks looking for gnome 3.8 18:02:29 <DiscordianUK> But that won't be till f19 18:03:03 <nirik> yeah, alpha was released tuesday. 18:03:12 <nirik> do remember to point folks to #fedora-qa for alpha 18:03:21 <DiscordianUK> I always do 18:03:58 <nirik> ok, moving on to tickets then I guess. 18:04:10 <nirik> #topic ticket #144 #fedora +quiet incident 18:04:10 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/144 18:04:50 <Southern_Gentlem> no issue that i see 18:05:06 <nirik> yeah, sounded to me like they thought it was a perm ban or something. 18:05:09 <DiscordianUK> I think DoverMo exited shortly after I joined this am 18:05:19 <nirik> also, they seem to often be off topic and random 18:05:22 <Southern_Gentlem> they have been back since 18:05:46 <DiscordianUK> They looked random to me 18:06:09 <DiscordianUK> I think there's no issue 18:06:15 <DiscordianUK> +1 18:06:17 <nirik> anyhow, I don't see anything to do or change here, lets thank them and keep an eye out. 18:07:19 <nirik> anything else on this one? 18:07:29 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 18:07:33 <DiscordianUK> I'm done 18:07:35 <nirik> any items for open floor? 18:07:44 <nirik> suggestions, comments, ways we can improve things? 18:07:56 <dcr226> more bacon? 18:08:24 <nirik> indeed. 18:08:53 <DiscordianUK> I've a feeling rwmjones is looking for the board meeting which is in #fedora-meeting-1 18:09:17 <nirik> could be. ;) 18:09:20 <rwmjones> I am? 18:09:24 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute. 18:09:41 <DiscordianUK> Otherwise hello 18:10:16 <DiscordianUK> You won't recall me but I used to go to gllugs 18:10:37 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone! 18:10:39 <nirik> #endmeeting

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EMEA ambassadors meeting minutes 2013-04-10
by Jiri Eischmann 25 Apr '13

25 Apr '13

Hi, we had another regular EMEA ambassadors meeting tonight. 13 ambassadors attended and the meeting lasted for 1 hour and 34 minutes. If you want to know more, please read the minutes: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-04-24/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-04-24/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-04-24/emea_ambassadors… The next meeting will be at 20:00 UTC on May 8th. Meet you in two weeks! Jiri

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Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-04-24
by Paul Whalen 24 Apr '13

24 Apr '13

Thanks to those that were able to join for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-04-24/fedora-meeting… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-04-24/fedora-meeting… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-04-24/fedora-meeting… =================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora ARM weekly status meeting =================================================== Meeting started by pwhalen at 20:00:58 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-04-24/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting (pwhalen, 20:03:22) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-04-17/fedora-meeting… (pwhalen, 20:03:23) * ahs3 will update the package scanner to better handle false positives and negatives (pwhalen, 20:03:39) * ahs3/pbrobinson/dgilmore will write the updated directions for aarch64 patching (pwhalen, 20:04:19) * 1) Problem packages (pwhalen, 20:10:03) * python3, java are now fixed (pwhalen, 20:11:07) * dmarlin posted potential fix for tog-pegasus - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922770 (pwhalen, 20:12:32) * dmarlin working on a new patch for mongodb (pwhalen, 20:12:46) * 2a) F19 ARM Alpha planning - Defining blocker hardware (pwhalen, 20:15:12) * ACTION: dgilmore to experiment with making images via anaconda to work around current lmc/anaconda issues (bconoboy, 20:42:54) * 2b) F19 ARM Alpha planning - Release Criteria (pwhalen, 20:43:53) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F19_Alpha_Release_Criteria (pwhalen, 20:45:36) * Release criteria are straight from F19 PA (bconoboy, 20:47:31) * 3a) Aarch64 bootstrap - patching status (pwhalen, 20:48:18) * LINK: config.guess/sub patches might be rendered moot by https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=951442 (bconoboy, 20:52:07) * LINK: Also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=909788 (bconoboy, 20:52:59) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/AArch64/QuickStart (pwhalen, 20:53:27) * Please donate your spare CPU cycles to the bootstrap (pwhalen, 20:54:03) * 4) Kernel Status update (pwhalen, 20:57:07) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Quality_Assurance/Kernel_Te… (pwhalen, 20:57:48) * 5) Open Floor (pwhalen, 21:05:29) Meeting ended at 21:06:52 UTC. Action Items ------------ * dgilmore to experiment with making images via anaconda to work around current lmc/anaconda issues Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dgilmore * dgilmore to experiment with making images via anaconda to work around current lmc/anaconda issues * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bconoboy (58) * pwhalen (53) * pbrobinson (45) * dgilmore (36) * dmarlin (14) * zodbot (8) * masta (7) * msalter (3) * jcapik (2) * jsmith (2) * ctyler (0) * jonmasters (0)

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F19 Beta Blocker Bug Review #1 Minutes
by Tim Flink 24 Apr '13

24 Apr '13

================================================ #fedora-blocker-review: f19beta-blocker-review-1 ================================================ Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-04-24/f19beta-b… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-04-24/f19beta-b… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-04-24/f19beta-b… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:00:38) * Introduction (tflink, 16:15:51) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 16:16:00) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:16:05) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:16:05) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:16:26) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/19/beta (tflink, 16:16:45) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:16:52) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:16:52) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:16:55) * Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:16:58) * 5 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:17:04) * 0 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:17:05) * 0 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:17:05) * 0 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:17:05) * (872423) Add Interlingua to the list of available languages (tflink, 16:19:55) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872423 (tflink, 16:19:58) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:20:00) * AGREED: 872423 - RejectedBlocker - This does not violate any of the F19 beta release requirements and thus is rejected as a release blocking issue for F19 beta (tflink, 16:25:08) * (948099) Apper ignores "never check for updates" option (also on the live image) (tflink, 16:25:17) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=948099 (tflink, 16:25:20) * Proposed Blocker, apper, NEW (tflink, 16:25:23) * AGREED: 948099 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 beta release criterion: "Release-blocking desktops must notify the user of available updates, but must not do so when running as a live image." (tflink, 16:27:59) * (953447) EFI boot on Mac halts after GRUB (tflink, 16:28:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=953447 (tflink, 16:28:22) * Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (tflink, 16:28:23) * AGREED: 953447 - This needs a bit more testing and input from devs before making a final decision on release blocking status. Will re-visit at a later meeting (tflink, 16:33:41) * (946906) Gnome fails QA:Testcase_Desktop_Updates (tflink, 16:33:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=946906 (tflink, 16:33:51) * Proposed Blocker, PackageKit, NEW (tflink, 16:33:51) * AGREED: 946906 - This is an older report and has yet to be confirmed with either a DVD/netinstall install or live, will re-visit once this has been re-tested/confirmed (tflink, 16:38:37) * (928859) â€œyum groupinstall kde-desktop-environmentâ€ prints an error message (tflink, 16:38:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928859 (tflink, 16:38:50) * Proposed Blocker, yum, NEW (tflink, 16:38:52) * AGREED: 928859 - RejectedBlocker - Installing DEs via yum commands does not violate any release criteria and thus, this is rejected as a release blocking bug for F19 beta (tflink, 16:45:54) * Open Floor (tflink, 16:46:57) Meeting ended at 16:52:18 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (102) * adamw (34) * brunowolff (17) * zodbot (5) * nirik (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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FAmNA Meeting (23 April 2013)
by inode0 24 Apr '13

24 Apr '13

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by inode0 at 01:00:13 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-04-24/famna.2013-04-24… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (inode0, 01:00:24) * Announcements (inode0, 01:03:12) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (inode0, 01:06:49) * Events (inode0, 01:07:44) * LINK: http://www.indianalinux.org/ (inode0, 01:13:20) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-04-17/famna.2013-04-17… (dan408, 01:17:12) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TXLF_2013 (inode0, 01:22:27) * AGREED: budget approved ~$1400 for TXLF; revisit sponsorship details if needed once more is known (rbergeron, 01:30:38) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELF_2013 (inode0, 01:32:39) * AGREED: approved budget of $1500 for SELF; will/can increase as needed (rbergeron, 01:45:53) * Open Floor (inode0, 01:46:55) Meeting ended at 01:54:30 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * inode0 (68) * dan408 (66) * rbergeron (54) * award3535 (26) * kk4ewt (23) * masta (18) * zodbot (8) * wrnash1 (3) * dramsey (1) John

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2013-04-22 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 23 Apr '13

23 Apr '13

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130422 Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-04-29 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130429 . Thanks! TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up ======================================================================= * adamw to send out another call for UEFI testing with TC6 - this was done[1], and we got a good amount of UEFI testing before go/no-go * jreznik to follow up on status of Translations (l10n) test day - jreznik did so, and the event went off well TOPIC: Fedora 19 Alpha recap ======================================================================= * Alpha was signed off and ready to go * adamw created and populated the Common_F19_bugs page[2] * kparal noted the tracker bug aliases are kind of long at present; adamw explained the old-style aliases are only going to be used for F19 as a 'backwards compatibility' measure, from F20 onwards bugs will have only the new-style aliases * There was a vote of thanks to all Alpha testers TOPIC: Fedora 19 Beta planning ======================================================================= * anaconda recently revised how containers (LVM, btrfs) are handled in custom partitioning: we will get some images to do some testing of those changes shortly * The first blocker review meeting was scheduled[3] for 04-24, Beta TC1 for 04-30 * The new-style Beta release criteria still needed to be finished off TOPIC: Test Days ======================================================================= * Power Management Test Day[4] went ahead successfully: the power management team blogged about it[5] * FreeIPA test day[6] seems to have gone ahead and produced useful results * martix was working on graphics test week preparation, adamw would help out with publicity TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= * tflink reported that the blocker bug proposal webapp should go into production during the week Action items ======================================================================= * adamw to complete Beta criteria update * adamw to add iscsi test case back to the matrix 1. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-April/181533.html 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F19_bugs 3. http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html 4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-17_Power_Management 5. http://pm-blog.yarda.eu/2013/04/fedora-19-power-management-test-day.html 6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-18_FreeIPA -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-04-19)
by Alick Zhao 19 Apr '13

19 Apr '13

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