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#fedora-blocker-review: F25-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:02:18 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:02:22)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:09:04)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:09:04)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:09:06)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:09:06)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:09:08)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:09:10)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:09:12)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:09:16)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:09:18)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:09:20)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:09:22)
* 6 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:09:47)
* 9 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:09:47)
* 3 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:09:51)
* 3 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:09:51)
* (1383890) blivet.errors.DeviceError: ('cannot replace active format',
'sdc1') (adamw, 16:10:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1383890 (adamw,
16:10:02)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:10:02)
* AGREED: 1383890 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - we're provisionally
accepting this as it does pretty much meet the criteria, but we're
open to anaconda team arguing that this should not be a blocker
(they were not available at the meeting) (adamw, 16:27:44)
* (1385684) Cannot install F25 from local hard disk using Fedora
Workstation live ISO (adamw, 16:27:54)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1385684 (adamw,
16:27:54)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:27:54)
* AGREED: 1385684 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - the criteria definition
of 'supported media' (from Alpha) does not include direct booting
the ISO from a hard disk, so we don't consider this scenario covered
by the criteria (adamw, 16:38:43)
* (1376471) global menu can't be used for 15-30 seconds, startup
notification stuck, missing item in alt+tab (on wayland) (adamw,
16:38:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1376471 (adamw,
16:38:59)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:38:59)
* AGREED: 1376471 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is considered to
effectively violate "All elements of the default panel (or
equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must
function correctly in typical use" as it affects expected use of
core Shell functions with standard apps (adamw, 16:49:37)
* (1188774) [anaconda] white screen on external monitor attached to a
Lenovo ThinkPad T400 when docked and lid closed (adamw, 16:49:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1188774 (adamw,
16:49:45)
* Proposed Blocker, metacity, NEW (adamw, 16:49:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=725219 (adamw,
16:55:52)
* AGREED: 1188774 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - Fedora's behaviour in
this case has not changed for many releases and this bug is only a
very conditional violation of the criteria (adamw, 17:02:04)
* (1384482) Screenshots and screencasts don't work on Wayland with
multiple monitors (regression) (adamw, 17:02:12)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1384482 (adamw,
17:02:12)
* Proposed Blocker, mutter, NEW (adamw, 17:02:12)
* AGREED: 1384482 - RejectedBlocker (Final), AcceptedFreezeException
(Final) - we don't consider this severe enough to constitute a
violation of the cited criterion, but we do think it's significant
enough to warrant taking a fix through freeze if we get to that
point (adamw, 17:11:08)
* (1382001) Switching between users doesn't work and freezes the desktop
(adamw, 17:11:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1382001 (adamw,
17:11:15)
* Proposed Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 17:11:15)
* AGREED: 1382001 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is considered a
violation of "Shutting down, logging out and rebooting must work
using standard console commands and the mechanisms offered (if any)
by all release-blocking desktops" as 'switch user' is an offered
mechanism, with 1184933 as precedent (adamw, 17:25:02)
* (1379098) [Regression] Gnome-shell crashes on switching back from tty
([abrt] gnome-shell: wl_resource_post_event(): gnome-shell killed by
SIGSEGV) (adamw, 17:28:42)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1379098 (adamw,
17:28:50)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:29:01)
* AGREED: 1379098 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
blocker as a violation of "All known bugs that can cause corruption
of user data must be fixed or documented at Common F25 bugs", as
proposed in comment #12 (adamw, 18:02:29)
* Open floor (adamw, 18:04:22)
Meeting ended at 18:08:38 UTC.
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#fedora-meeting-2: RELENG (2016-10-17)
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Meeting started by dgilmore at 14:33:34 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* init process (dgilmore, 14:33:37)
* Alternative Architectures updates (dgilmore, 14:40:27)
* pagure (dgilmore, 14:50:10)
* open floor (dgilmore, 15:02:35)
Meeting ended at 15:20:51 UTC.
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* nirik (23)
* maxamillion (13)
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* zodbot (7)
* pbrobinson (6)
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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora-qadevel
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Meeting started by tflink at 14:00:31 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-10-17/fedora-qadeve…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (tflink, 14:00:31)
* Announcements and Information (tflink, 14:02:59)
* taskotron-trigger-0.4.1-1 deployed to dev - mkrizek (tflink,
14:03:11)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T854 (tflink,
14:03:11)
* Docker Testing Status (tflink, 14:06:37)
* Trigger Re-Write Status (tflink, 14:29:30)
* Dist-Git Task Storage Proposal (tflink, 14:31:04)
* Open Floor (tflink, 14:32:33)
Meeting ended at 14:36:00 UTC.
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* (none)
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* jskladan (34)
* zodbot (7)
* kparal (3)
* tenk (2)
* mkrizek (2)
* omiday (1)
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2016-10-14)
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Meeting started by paragan at 16:00:37 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-10-14/fesco.2016-10-1…
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Meeting summary
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* init process (paragan, 16:00:38)
* #1626 Release blocking deliverables for Fedora 25 (paragan, 16:03:56)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1626 (paragan,
16:03:57)
* AGREED: Accept the current status of Release blocking deliverables
as given on its wiki page and close the ticket (+6,0,0) (nirik,
16:16:57)
* #1635 F26 Self Contained Changes (nirik, 16:17:30)
* AGREED: self contained changes approved (+5,0,0) (nirik, 16:22:45)
* #1634 EOL and vulnerable software (nirik, 16:23:07)
* will discuss more on list/ticket and revisit next week (nirik,
16:42:17)
* Next weeks chair (nirik, 16:42:38)
* maxamillion to chair next week (nirik, 16:43:16)
* Open Floor (nirik, 16:43:20)
Meeting ended at 16:46:49 UTC.
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* mhroncok (24)
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* zodbot (14)
* paragan (14)
* jwb (14)
* maxamillion (13)
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#fedora-meeting: FAmNA - 2016 Oct. 13
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Meeting started by jflory7 at 01:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* === Roll Call === (jflory7, 01:00:10)
* award3535 is unable to chair tonight and next week - jflory7 will
continue in his place temporarily (jflory7, 01:01:19)
* Meeting canceled tonight: quorum not met (jflory7 danofsatx jsandys
kk4ewt) (jflory7, 01:10:34)
* === Announcements === (jflory7, 01:10:39)
* === "Announcing the Release of Fedora 25 Beta" === (jflory7,
01:10:49)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-release-fedora-25-beta/
(jflory7, 01:10:54)
* Fedora 25 is available for download and upgrading. To learn more
about the technical changes in Fedora this release, read the
announcement on the Fedora Magazine for more information. The
targeted final release date (currently) is November 15. (jflory7,
01:11:00)
* === "Outreachy with Fedora, Fall 2016" === (jflory7, 01:11:06)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/outreachy-fedora-fall-2016/
(jflory7, 01:11:11)
* We are in the final week of applications for the GNOME Outreachy
program. Fedora has a few slots available for this upcoming cycle.
More information about the program is available in the above blog
post. Be sure to share it across your personal networks! (jflory7,
01:11:18)
* === "Wayland By Default Test Day 2016-10-13" === (jflory7,
01:11:31)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wayland-default-test-day/
(jflory7, 01:11:35)
* Today was the official Test Day for an upcoming change in Fedora 25:
Wayland by Default. This will be one of the biggest changes in
Fedora 25 to be aware of. It's also not too late to help participate
in the testing and add your feedback. (jflory7, 01:12:32)
* === New banners will need to be purchased === (jflory7, 01:12:59)
* The springs in the current banners are broken and cannot be fixed -
we will need to factor in new banners for the upcoming fiscal year.
(jflory7, 01:13:53)
* Meeting uncanceled! Juggler and masta in attendance as well.
(jflory7, 01:14:34)
* === Tickets === (jflory7, 01:14:41)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (jflory7, 01:14:49)
* === Ticket #156 === (jflory7, 01:19:21)
* WiCHacks is an all-female hackathon from February 25-26, 2017.
After talking with the lead coordinator, it would be possible for
Fedora to organize an "open source" sponsorship at no cost to us
(and we would provide people / content). (jflory7, 01:19:58)
* LINK: http://wichacks.rit.edu/ (jflory7, 01:20:05)
* ACTION: jflory7 Create a wiki page for WiCHacks, reach out to others
about partnering on a sponsorship for this event (jflory7,
01:25:31)
* === Ticket #157 === (jflory7, 01:27:19)
* BrickHack is the Rochester Institute of Technology's primary
hackathon during the academic year. Last year, Fedora attended as a
sponsor. I would like to propose us attending again. (jflory7,
01:27:35)
* LINK: https://brickhack.io/ (jflory7, 01:27:47)
* ACTION: jflory7 Create wiki page for BrickHack 2017, begin building
budget information, reach out to local Fedorans in Rochester,
outreach to other groups to offset sponsorship costs (jflory7,
01:34:26)
* === Ticket #118 - skipped, jsandys not present, will work offline
=== (jflory7, 01:38:30)
* === Ticket #154 === (jflory7, 01:38:52)
* No recent changes to this ticket - Andrew uploaded the latest
changes for the month at the beginning of October. Please review at
your leisure. (jflory7, 01:39:39)
* === Open Floor === (jflory7, 01:40:00)
Meeting ended at 01:47:19 UTC.
Action Items
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* jflory7 Create a wiki page for WiCHacks, reach out to others about
partnering on a sponsorship for this event
* jflory7 Create wiki page for BrickHack 2017, begin building budget
information, reach out to local Fedorans in Rochester, outreach to
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other groups to offset sponsorship costs
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#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
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Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:00 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-10-13/magazine.2016-1…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (stickster, 21:00:03)
* Last week review (stickster, 21:01:14)
* Oct-03 weekly stats down slightly, 38.9k views. September monthly
stats were good, October off to a bit of a slow start (stickster,
21:02:23)
* Pending review (stickster, 21:03:07)
* LINK:
https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=…
(stickster, 21:03:31)
* important note... stickster has already scheduled FreeOrion post for
Friday Oct-14 (stickster, 21:03:46)
* --- Grub2 --- (stickster, 21:04:21)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14701&preview=1&_ppp=4dbe7f8790
(stickster, 21:04:24)
* Article reviewed last night and put out for a technical review -
received feedback off-list from a few different people. ryanlerch
created a featured image, so pending minor changes, this article
should be good to ship at any time next week. (jflory7, 21:05:19)
* --- Atom editor --- (stickster, 21:09:08)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14863&preview=1&_ppp=d49acbfea1
(stickster, 21:09:17)
* ACTION: stickster edit the Atom article and create featured image
for release next week (stickster, 21:11:20)
* LINK: https://media.giphy.com/media/pN6Jvdh6BwSEE/giphy.gif
(stickster, 21:13:17)
* --- Inkscape: design your imagination --- (stickster, 21:15:01)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14921&preview=1&_ppp=48fef08aa5
(stickster, 21:15:03)
* ryanlerch and jflory7 will fight over the inkscape series... two
Fedorans go in, only one comes out (stickster, 21:23:04)
* ACTION: ryanlerch review Inkscape Design your Imagination article
and work with author to finalize for end of next week (stickster,
21:25:47)
* ACTION: ryanlerch will outline additional articles so we have a
rough idea of the series before we launch into it (stickster,
21:28:34)
* Drafts (stickster, 21:29:11)
* LINK:
https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=po…
(stickster, 21:29:13)
* --- C99 support in gcc --- (stickster, 21:30:26)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14646&preview=1&_ppp=84b6c12483
(stickster, 21:30:30)
* ACTION: stickster contact mattn to see if he or a colleague can
review C99 articlel (stickster, 21:36:45)
* --- Kernel 4.9 merge window features --- (stickster, 21:37:30)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14879&preview=1&_ppp=3633fcb84d
(stickster, 21:37:36)
* ACTION: stickster to edit labbott article on kernel 4.9 merge window
for release next week (stickster, 21:41:35)
* --- F-🎂 in the house --- (stickster, 21:42:13)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=14904&preview=1&_ppp=57882f8743
(stickster, 21:42:29)
* AGREED: good fit for the Magazine (stickster, 21:45:17)
* Publishing schedule for next week+ (stickster, 21:48:46)
* AGREED: Friday: FreeOrion by cprofitt; Monday: Raspberry Pi
announcement by pbrobinson; Tuesday: What's good in the kernel by
labbott; Wednesday: Atom for Fedora by Anupama; Thursday: F-cake by
bexelbie; Friday: Inkscape Pt. 1 by a2batic (jflory7, 21:56:19)
* ACTION: jflory7 File issues for all upcoming articles discussed in
today's meeting in the fedoramagazine-images repository on Pagure
(jflory7, 21:57:12)
* AGREED: Going to try to find some time to discuss new starter
pitches for new writers sometime next week (will follow up with
these at the next meeting) (jflory7, 21:58:02)
Meeting ended at 21:58:43 UTC.
Action Items
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* stickster edit the Atom article and create featured image for release
next week
* ryanlerch review Inkscape Design your Imagination article and work
with author to finalize for end of next week
* ryanlerch will outline additional articles so we have a rough idea of
the series before we launch into it
* stickster contact mattn to see if he or a colleague can review C99
articlel
* stickster to edit labbott article on kernel 4.9 merge window for
release next week
* jflory7 File issues for all upcoming articles discussed in today's
meeting in the fedoramagazine-images repository on Pagure
Action Items, by person
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* jflory7
* jflory7 File issues for all upcoming articles discussed in today's
meeting in the fedoramagazine-images repository on Pagure
* ryanlerch
* ryanlerch review Inkscape Design your Imagination article and work
with author to finalize for end of next week
* ryanlerch will outline additional articles so we have a rough idea
of the series before we launch into it
* stickster
* stickster edit the Atom article and create featured image for
release next week
* stickster contact mattn to see if he or a colleague can review C99
articlel
* stickster to edit labbott article on kernel 4.9 merge window for
release next week
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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