Notification time stamped 2021-10-28 17:49:25 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: F35 Final Go/No-Go meeting
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Meeting started by bcotton_ at 17:01:56 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (bcotton_, 17:02:03)
* Purpose of this meeting (bcotton_, 17:06:06)
* Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F35 Final is
ready for shipment, according to the release criteria. (bcotton_,
17:06:08)
* This is determined in a few ways: (bcotton_, 17:06:09)
* 1. No remaining blocker bugs (bcotton_, 17:06:11)
* 2. Release candidate compose is available (bcotton_, 17:06:12)
* 3. Test matrices for Final are fully completed (bcotton_, 17:06:28)
* Current status - blockers (bcotton_, 17:06:43)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist
(bcotton_, 17:06:44)
* 2 Proposed Blockers (bcotton_, 17:07:00)
* 4 Accepted Blockers (bcotton_, 17:07:02)
* 1 Accepted 0-day Blockers (bcotton_, 17:07:03)
* (2018271) fedora-release-identity-cloud says "Cloud Edition", Cloud
has not been an edition for years (bcotton_, 17:07:24)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2018271
(bcotton_, 17:07:25)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/575
(bcotton_, 17:07:27)
* Proposed Blocker, fedora-release, NEW (bcotton_, 17:07:28)
* LINK:
https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-the-release-of-fedora-26-beta/
"Looking for Fedora Cloud Base? This is replaced by Atomic as a
Fedora Edition for the container use case, but we still produce it
for those of you who want to build up your own cloud-computing
environment in a more traditional way — see Alternative Downloads
below." (nirik, 17:11:56)
* AGREED: 2018158 - AcceptedBlocker - Cloud is not currently an
Edition, so it violates the "Release-blocking images that are not
part of any edition must not identify themselves as being part of
any edition" (bcotton_, 17:16:49)
* (2018158) disabling camera and microphone access doesn't disable
either (bcotton_, 17:17:10)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2018158
(bcotton_, 17:17:11)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/574
(bcotton_, 17:17:12)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-control-center, NEW (bcotton_, 17:17:14)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-4) (-mattdm, -adamwill, -bcotton,
-sgallagh) (bcotton_, 17:17:15)
* AGREED: 2018158 - RejectedBlocker - This behavior, while
unfortunate, exceeds our definition of "basic functionality"
(bcotton_, 17:20:47)
* (2015972) systemd-vconsole-setup.service fails on an arabic system
(bcotton_, 17:21:10)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015972
(bcotton_, 17:21:11)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/561
(bcotton_, 17:21:13)
* Accepted Blocker, kbd, VERIFIED (bcotton_, 17:21:14)
* (2016310) The KDE LiveCD 35 RC does not boot in basic graphics mode.
(bcotton_, 17:21:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016310
(bcotton_, 17:21:58)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/562
(bcotton_, 17:22:00)
* Accepted Blocker, LiveCD - KDE, VERIFIED (bcotton_, 17:22:01)
* (2016510) GNOME Software does not always show packages from third
party repos if enabled via gnome-initial-setup (bcotton_, 17:22:21)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016510
(bcotton_, 17:22:22)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/564
(bcotton_, 17:22:24)
* Accepted Blocker, PackageKit, ON_QA (bcotton_, 17:22:25)
* (2016613) When running anaconda on Wayland with two keyboard layouts
configured, hitting any modifier key with the second layout selected
switches to the first layout (bcotton_, 17:24:17)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016613
(bcotton_, 17:24:19)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/566
(bcotton_, 17:24:20)
* Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW (bcotton_, 17:24:22)
* Maintainers say this can't be fixed easily (bcotton_, 17:25:45)
* (2016253) wireplumber not enabled automatically (bcotton_, 17:26:20)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016253
(bcotton_, 17:26:22)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/567
(bcotton_, 17:26:23)
* Accepted 0-day Blocker, wireplumber, MODIFIED (bcotton_, 17:26:25)
* RC2 (and the stable repo come release day) contains a fix for the
case that could violate the criteria. There may be a different
problem, but it's unlikely to violate the release criteria
(bcotton_, 17:31:08)
* Blocker waiver decision (bcotton_, 17:32:15)
* 2 accepted blockers remain unfixed (bcotton_, 17:32:31)
* (2018271) fedora-release-identity-cloud says "Cloud Edition", Cloud
has not been an edition for years (bcotton_, 17:32:40)
* (2016613) When running anaconda on Wayland with two keyboard layouts
configured, hitting any modifier key with the second layout selected
switches to the first layout (bcotton_, 17:32:50)
* AGREED: BZ 2018271 and 2016613 are waived under the "late blocker"
and "difficult to fix" exceptions, respectively (bcotton_,
17:36:03)
* All accepted blockers are fixed or waived (bcotton_, 17:36:14)
* Current status - test matrices (bcotton_, 17:36:26)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_35_Test_Results
(bcotton_, 17:36:27)
* Test coverage complete, with only a few transfers from previous
composes (bcotton_, 17:38:54)
* Current status - RC (bcotton_, 17:41:33)
* RC2 is the current RC (bcotton_, 17:41:38)
* RC2 contains all expected artifacts (bcotton_, 17:43:08)
* Go/No-Go decision (bcotton_, 17:44:31)
* FESCo is GO (bcotton_, 17:45:00)
* RelEng is GO (bcotton_, 17:45:12)
* QA is GO (bcotton_, 17:45:28)
* AGREED: Fedora Linux 35 Final is GO (bcotton_, 17:45:36)
* Fedora Linux 35 Final will release on target date #2 (2021-11-02)
(bcotton_, 17:45:37)
* ACTION: bcotton to announce decision (bcotton_, 17:45:43)
* Open floor (bcotton_, 17:45:50)
Meeting ended at 17:49:25 UTC.
Action Items
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* bcotton to announce decision
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* bcotton to announce decision
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Notification time stamped 2021-10-28 17:00:27 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-3: Infrastructure (2021-10-28)
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Meeting started by petebuffon at 16:01:49 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2021-10-28/infrastructur…
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Meeting summary
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* Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra (petebuffon, 16:02:05)
* About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
(petebuffon, 16:02:09)
* greetings! (petebuffon, 16:02:12)
* New folks introductions (petebuffon, 16:03:14)
* This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora
Infrastructure can introduce themselves (petebuffon, 16:03:15)
* Getting Started Guide:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
(petebuffon, 16:03:15)
* Next chair (petebuffon, 16:09:02)
* magic eight ball says: (petebuffon, 16:09:03)
* chair 2021-11-04 - lenkaseg (petebuffon, 16:09:03)
* announcements and information (petebuffon, 16:11:36)
* CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in
#centos-meeting (petebuffon, 16:11:36)
* CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in
#fedora-meeting-3 (petebuffon, 16:11:36)
* If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team,
file an isssue:
https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
(petebuffon, 16:11:36)
* Fedora 35 Beta was released on 2021-09-28 (petebuffon, 16:11:38)
* Fedora 35 Final freeze is in effect (petebuffon, 16:11:40)
* f35 go/no-go in about 45min (after this meeting) (nirik, 16:12:59)
* Oncall (petebuffon, 16:14:44)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall (petebuffon,
16:14:45)
* https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
(petebuffon, 16:14:45)
* nirik on call from 2021-10-21 to 2021-10-28 (petebuffon, 16:14:45)
* darknao on call from 2021-10-28 to 2021-11-04 (petebuffon,
16:14:48)
* eddiejennings on call from 2021-11-04 to 2021-11-11 (petebuffon,
16:14:50)
* ??? on call from 2021-11-11 to 2021-11-18 (petebuffon, 16:14:52)
* leothecat on call from 2021-11-11 to 2021-11-18 (petebuffon,
16:18:31)
* leothecat on call from 2021-11-04 to 2021-11-11 (petebuffon,
16:19:38)
* eddiejennings on call from 2021-11-11 to 2021-11-18 (petebuffon,
16:19:54)
* LenkaSegura on call from 2021-11-25 to 2021-12-02 (petebuffon,
16:22:14)
* Summary of last week: (from current oncall ) (petebuffon, 16:22:29)
* Monitoring discussion [nirik] (petebuffon, 16:22:29)
* https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios (petebuffon, 16:22:29)
* Go over existing out items and fix (petebuffon, 16:22:29)
* Learning topic (petebuffon, 16:26:05)
* 2021-10-28 - Introduction to AWS and Fedora Infrastructure [nirik]
(petebuffon, 16:26:10)
* Open Floor (petebuffon, 16:46:54)
Meeting ended at 17:00:27 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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#fedora-meeting: magazine
=========================
Meeting started by glb[m] at 15:00:15 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2021-10-28/magazine.2021-1…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (glb[m], 15:00:15)
* Agenda... (full message at
https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/2cac4e5376eae…)
(glb[m], 15:03:13)
* 1/ Last week's stats (glb[m], 15:04:03)
* Week of Oct 18: 64.2K pageviews -- Trending up! People looking for
F35? (glb[m], 15:04:17)
* 2/ In progress followup (glb[m], 15:04:33)
* Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been
finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? (glb[m],
15:04:33)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:04:33)
* Are there any upcoming test days? (glb[m], 15:08:45)
* LINK: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/ (glb[m], 15:08:45)
* Review release schedule (glb[m], 15:09:18)
* LINK:
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-35/f-35-magazine-tasks.html
(glb[m], 15:09:19)
* 3/ Finished articles to review (glb[m], 15:11:21)
* Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good
to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in
progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback. (glb[m],
15:11:21)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:11:21)
* 4/ Articles to edit (glb[m], 15:19:51)
* Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image
creator. (glb[m], 15:19:51)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:19:51)
* 5/ Publishing schedule (glb[m], 15:22:10)
* Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing
schedule for the next week period. (glb[m], 15:22:10)
* If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the
'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with
additional content. (glb[m], 15:22:10)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:22:10)
* AGREED: PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 29 Oct 2021: #401 Interview
about VR on Linux (editor: @rlengland) | Mon 01 Nov 2021: #391
Multiple Matrix sessions with Element on Fedora Linux (editor: TBD)
| Wed 03 Nov 2021: #151 Reconfiguring Virtual Machines with
Cockpit (editor: @rlengland) (glb[m], 15:25:09)
* 6/ Editor of the Week (glb[m], 15:25:17)
* glb will be editor of the week next week. (glb[m], 15:25:59)
* 7/ Open floor (glb[m], 15:26:14)
Meeting ended at 15:56:37 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#fedora-meeting-3: Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting
==================================================================
Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:04 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2021-10-27/fedora_infras…
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Meeting summary
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* meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops (nirik,
18:00:05)
* agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily (nirik, 18:00:05)
* reminder: speak up if you want to work on a ticket! (nirik, 18:00:05)
* Tickets needing review (nirik, 18:00:07)
*
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&priority=1
(nirik, 18:00:09)
* LINK: http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html (nirik,
18:02:52)
* Planning / Upcoming items (nirik, 18:10:41)
* f35 go/no-go meeting tomorrow. 🤞 (nirik, 18:11:09)
* monday (2021-11-01) we are going to have a session in
#fedora-meeting-3 to triage old releng bugs (nirik, 18:11:49)
* we have a really big pile of things waiting for the freeze to lift.
(nirik, 18:12:21)
* Discussion / AOB (nirik, 18:13:11)
Meeting ended at 18:16:29 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting
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Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:27:53 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2021-10-27/fedora_coreos…
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Meeting summary
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* roll call (dustymabe, 16:27:59)
* Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:34:21)
* ACTION: dustymabe to write docs for rpi4 including updating eeprom
(dustymabe, 16:34:53)
* F35: CHANGE: More flexible use of SSSD fast cache for local users
(dustymabe, 16:35:17)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/875
(dustymabe, 16:35:23)
* LINK:
https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/875#issuecomment-952…
(dustymabe, 16:36:07)
* the report by travier indicates we shouldn't have any issues with
the "More flexible use of SSSD fast cache for local users" change
(dustymabe, 16:38:01)
* Handle re-invocations of coreos-installer on a new disk (dustymabe,
16:38:22)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/976
(dustymabe, 16:38:27)
* AGREED: we will look for multiple boot filesystems at the start and
end of the initramfs and fail if detected. we will add a stamp file
to the bootfs to ensure 1:1 binding between bootfs and rootfs.
(jlebon, 17:01:42)
* Open Floor (dustymabe, 17:03:52)
* reminder about the FCOS release process surrounding Major Fedora
Linux GA
https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/blob/main/Design.md#major-f…
(dustymabe, 17:07:15)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/998 is
so cool (jdoss, 17:10:35)
* we will have a video meeting next week Nov 3rd. (dustymabe,
17:19:38)
* the fedora coreos meetings stick with UTC time. Regardless of what
happens in your local TZ, we'll be here at 16:30 UTC (dustymabe,
17:21:05)
Meeting ended at 17:22:05 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* dustymabe to write docs for rpi4 including updating eeprom
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* dustymabe
* dustymabe to write docs for rpi4 including updating eeprom
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#ansible-docs: Documentation Working Group aka DaWGs
====================================================
Meeting started by samccann at 15:00:53 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* opening chatter (samccann, 15:03:36)
* Action Item review (samccann, 15:04:21)
* core-2.12 docs checklist is on track for the release
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/75883 (samccann,
15:04:43)
* docs for split controller still TBD but hoping for something soon
after some other higher priority work settles (samccann, 15:05:14)
* the new shading on module tables etc is up on test
http://docs.testing.ansible.com/ansible/devel/collections/ansible/windows/w…
(samccann, 15:06:20)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/324/files
(ariordan, 15:08:32)
* shaded borders on plugin tables (samccann, 15:13:29)
* LINK:
http://docs.testing.ansible.com/ansible/devel/collections/ansible/windows/w…
(samccann, 15:13:39)
* AGREED: we are ready to go on the shaded border PR! (samccann,
15:17:37)
* Meeting time change for Daylight Savings (samccann, 15:18:23)
* we tend to shift the meeting time (UTC hours) so that it remains the
same time for those places who follow Daylight Savings time
(samccann, 15:18:53)
* AGREED: Change the UTC calendar so the DaWGs meeting stays the same
time for each of us (11am ET, 4pm Irish time, 5pm Felix time) :-)
(samccann, 15:27:19)
* ACTION: samccann to change the yaml and README.md file in
ansible/community to align with this decision (samccann, 15:29:49)
* ACTION: samccann to find out who can change the meeting reminder bot
to align with the UTC time change (possiblly 16:00 UTC but need to
verify) (samccann, 15:31:39)
* ACTION: samccann to ask same person if we can get a cybclock-clone
ping on the 15 min marks here too (samccann, 15:32:32)
* AGREED: we will change UTC meeting invites etc this week to align
with Daylight Savings shift for Europe (samccann, 15:33:28)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/community/pull/602 (acozine,
15:37:35)
* For US folks - this meeting will be an hour LATER, next week, until
the US goes into Daylight Savings time the following week
(samccann, 15:39:25)
* PR76088 (samccann, 15:40:08)
* PR76088 (samccann, 15:40:24)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/76088/files
(samccann, 15:40:26)
* Should devel docs use the interim branches of devel? (samccann,
15:46:09)
* background - core is proposing to create interim branches off devel
that are more stable etc. Do we want devel docs to point to those or
just keep using the devel branch? (samccann, 15:46:55)
* - pros of keeping devel - we will know instantly if something has
gone wrong and can highlight it to be fixed potentially before the
next interim branch (samccann, 15:47:42)
* cons - we could have a busted devel docs for a bit :-) (samccann,
15:47:54)
* we will keep the devel docs tied to the devel branch so they are the
most up-to-date and if anything 'goes wrong' we will know about it
asap (samccann, 15:51:32)
* Open Floor (samccann, 15:51:43)
Meeting ended at 15:58:24 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* samccann to change the yaml and README.md file in ansible/community to
align with this decision
* samccann to find out who can change the meeting reminder bot to align
with the UTC time change (possiblly 16:00 UTC but need to verify)
* samccann to ask same person if we can get a cybclock-clone ping on the
15 min marks here too
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* samccann
* samccann to change the yaml and README.md file in ansible/community
to align with this decision
* samccann to find out who can change the meeting reminder bot to
align with the UTC time change (possiblly 16:00 UTC but need to
verify)
* samccann to ask same person if we can get a cybclock-clone ping on
the 15 min marks here too
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* briantist (13)
* ariordan (12)
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#fedora-blocker-review: F35-blocker-review
==========================================
Meeting started by adamw at 16:02:08 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2021-10-25/f35-bloc…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (adamw, 16:02:15)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:10:03)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:10:10)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:10:13)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:10:15)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:10:18)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:10:22)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:10:25)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:28)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:32)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:35)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:10:38)
* 4 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:49)
* 4 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:52)
* 5 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:59)
* 11 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:11:01)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:11:15)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:11:22)
* (2016613) Anaconda in F35 does not switch keyboard layout correctly
(adamw, 16:11:30)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016613 (adamw,
16:11:33)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/566 (adamw,
16:11:37)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:11:40)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+ahmedalmeleh) (adamw,
16:11:46)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Final_Release_Criteria#Keyboard_la…
doesn't specify, but i'd naiively assume it would only apply to the
primary layout (although I see the case for secondary, too)
(bcotton, 16:19:05)
* AGREED: 2016613 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
violation of the intent of the "If a particular keyboard layout has
been configured for the system, that keyboard layout must be used:
..." criterion - "in the installer" is not listed in that criterion,
but we agree this is an oversight and it is intended to be covered
(we will rectify this later) (adamw, 16:39:14)
* (2017043) WS GIS aarch64 doesn't accept input from wireless keyboard
(adamw, 16:39:49)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2017043 (adamw,
16:39:53)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/568 (adamw,
16:39:57)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (adamw, 16:39:59)
* AGREED: 2017043 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException
(Final) - this is rejected as there doesn't seem to a be blocking
scenario (hardware plus input device plus environment) which is
affected, but accepted as an FE issue as it cannot be fixed with an
update and would be good to fix for the non-blocking RPi4 case if
possible (adamw, 16:46:59)
* (2011928) Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs
(adamw, 16:47:14)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928 (adamw,
16:47:17)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/525 (adamw,
16:47:20)
* Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 16:47:24)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+bcotton, +ahmedalmeleh)
(adamw, 16:47:28)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1949334 was the
f34 bug with the same trace (adamw, 17:00:01)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/965
(Eighth_Doctor, 17:00:42)
* AGREED: 2011928 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this is a tough call as
we cannot be sure if it specific to vexxhost's environment somehow,
and if the problem lies there or in Fedora 35 itself. we agreed on
current information to reject this as a blocker and document it as
an ongoing situation with vexxhost which we will try to get resolved
ASAP. (adamw, 17:16:24)
* (2016253) wireplumber not enabled automatically (adamw, 17:16:32)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016253 (adamw,
17:16:35)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/567 (adamw,
17:16:39)
* Proposed Blocker, wireplumber, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:16:43)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+3,0,-0) (+frantisekz,
+catanzaro, +lruzicka) (adamw, 17:16:47)
* Ticket vote: 0Day (+3,0,-0) (+kparal, +catanzaro, +bcotton) (adamw,
17:16:51)
* LINK:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-3c4c454c98#bugs
(Eighth_Doctor, 17:20:31)
* AGREED: 2016253 - Accepted0Day (Final), AcceptedFreezeException
(Final) - this is accepted as a conditional violation of "For each
one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to
successfully complete a direct upgrade...The upgraded system must
meet all release criteria", as we hold it's sufficiently likely this
could possibly happen in such a case to be worth blocking on. Also
FE to fix it sooner. (adamw, 17:30:44)
* Proposed Final freeze exceptions (adamw, 17:36:53)
* we'll skip this section, as time is running on and most of them have
ticket votes (adamw, 17:37:05)
* please vote in the tickets if you want to vote on these, i will
update them shortly after the meeting (adamw, 17:37:18)
* Accepted Final blockers (adamw, 17:37:27)
* 2015972 - this is verified (adamw, 17:38:32)
* (2016310) The KDE LiveCD 35 RC does not boot in basic graphics mode.
(adamw, 17:39:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016310 (adamw,
17:39:19)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/562 (adamw,
17:39:22)
* Accepted Blocker, LiveCD - KDE, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:39:25)
* LINK:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1x70jhY5S18TB6lXPI7QYjDFuWelLm6ov
(Southern_Gentlem, 17:44:45)
* we're actively working to get a usable fix for this, no specific
action is needed to move it along (adamw, 17:49:56)
* 2016510 is ON_QA and showing mostly positive results in testing so
far, kparal is working on a subcase where steam doesn't always show
up (adamw, 17:50:24)
* 2011322 is ON_QA because we need to confirm it keeps working over
time, but the fix is pushed stable and we think it's good (adamw,
17:50:53)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:50:59)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/447#comment-751676
(adamw, 17:54:38)
Meeting ended at 17:59:28 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#fedora-neuro: NeuroFedora - 2021-10-25
=======================================
Meeting started by shaane[m] at 13:01:14 UTC. The full logs are
available at
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Meeting summary
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* Agenda for today (shaane[m], 13:02:57)
* New introductions and roll call. (shaane[m], 13:03:04)
* ACTION: (hardeborlaa[m], 13:03:08)
* Tasks from last meeting. (shaane[m], 13:03:13)
* Open Pagure tickets. (shaane[m], 13:03:19)
* package health check. (shaane[m], 13:03:50)
* CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 35/36 (shaane[m],
13:04:08)
* Neuroscience query of the week (shaane[m], 13:04:15)
* Next meeting day, and chair. (shaane[m], 13:04:24)
* Open Floor. (shaane[m], 13:04:31)
* New introductions and roll call. (shaane[m], 13:04:51)
* FranciscoD, FAS: ankursinha, timezone: UTC+1 (London), interests:
neuroscience, packaging in Fedora and lots of other bits
(FranciscoD, 13:07:47)
* shaane, FAS: shaneallcroft, timezone: UTC-4(new york), interests:
neuroscience, comp-neuro, emacs, fedora (shaane[m], 13:10:15)
* oluyosola, FAS: oluyosola, timezone: UTC+1(Nigeria), interests:
software development, packaging in NeuroFedora and lot more
(oluyosola[m], 13:10:32)
* vanessa_khris, FAS: vanessa_kris, timezone: UTC+1 (Cameroon),
interests: Extend and improve NeuroFedora's user consumable
artefacts (vanessa_khris[m], 13:10:53)
* omnidapps, FAS: nerdsville, timezone: UTC+7:00 (Asia/Bangkok),
interests: coding, sushi, linux, neuroscience (omnidapps, 13:11:29)
* hardeborlaa, FAS:hardeborlaa, timezone: UTC+1(Nigeria), interests:
packagging in NeuroFedora and software development.
(hardeborlaa[m], 13:11:48)
* Open Pagure tickets (shaane[m], 13:12:15)
* Tasks from last meeting (shaane[m], 13:14:57)
* FranciscoD add arbor to comp-neuro image if it isn't included:
WIP/PENDING (shaane[m], 13:15:22)
* hafsat, FAS:hafsat, timezone: UTC+1(Nigeria), interests: Tech,
Poetry, Reading (HafsatAjia-Egbey, 13:15:30)
* FranciscoD add arbor to comp-neuro image if it isn't included
(shaane[m], 13:15:54)
* ACTION: FranciscoD add arbor to comp-neuro image if it isn't
included (shaane[m], 13:16:53)
* FranciscoD send out logs (shaane[m], 13:17:36)
* FranciscoD send out logs: DONE (shaane[m], 13:19:13)
* omnidapps follow up with fedora infra on planet migration
(shaane[m], 13:19:36)
* ACTION: omnidapps follow up on pagure issue 456; Package ggobi
(shaane[m], 13:24:36)
* ACTION: omnidapps file ticket on the main infra tracker for
fedoraplanet theme (shaane[m], 13:24:43)
* shaane[m] FranciscoD work on pyplane spec after meeting (shaane[m],
13:25:06)
* ACTION: shaane follow up with pyplane PR and post up to date spec
file (shaane[m], 13:29:11)
* FranciscoD update koschei package list (shaane[m], 13:31:33)
* LINK: https://github.com/fedora-infra/koschei/pull/339
(FranciscoD, 13:32:33)
* shaane[m] review sphinxemoji: DONE (shaane[m], 13:34:22)
* shaane[m] to chair the next meeting: DONE (shaane[m], 13:34:43)
* ACTION: FranciscoD update spec are per review and submit updated
version if required (FranciscoD, 13:35:01)
* package health check. (shaane[m], 13:36:56)
* LINK: https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/user/neuro-sig
(shaane[m], 13:37:36)
* LINK:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-fastavro/pull-request/3
music is looking into that (omnidapps, 13:40:32)
* CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 35/36. (shaane[m],
13:41:40)
* Open package reviews check (shaane[m], 13:42:02)
* In this topic, we go over current packages that are under "review"
(shaane[m], 13:43:32)
* link to tracking bug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
(shaane[m], 13:43:55)
* Neuroscience query of the week (shaane[m], 13:48:56)
* ACTION: hardeborlaa[m] vanessa_khris[m] oluyosola[m]
HafsatAjia-Egbe4 review each other's packages to practice the review
process (FranciscoD, 13:48:57)
* CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 35/36. (shaane[m],
13:50:10)
* this is the complete list of packages we maintain together:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/group/neuro-sig (FranciscoD,
13:51:01)
* In this topic, we (quickly) check to see if our Fedora based "Comp
Neuro" OS image is building properly or not (shaane[m], 13:52:50)
* koji is our build system---for packages and other artefacts)
(shaane[m], 13:55:33)
* link to our koji build
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691
(shaane[m], 13:56:07)
* both f35 and f36 comp-neuro composes (os images) are building fine
(shaane[m], 14:00:03)
* Neuroscience query of the week (shaane[m], 14:01:49)
* Next meeting day, and chair. (shaane[m], 14:08:47)
* ACTION: oluyosola chair next meeting (shaane[m], 14:11:28)
* two weeks from now same time (13:00 UTC) (shaane[m], 14:11:49)
* chair will be oluyosola (shaane[m], 14:12:07)
* Open floor (shaane[m], 14:13:15)
Meeting ended at 14:13:18 UTC.
Action Items
------------
*
* FranciscoD add arbor to comp-neuro image if it isn't included
* omnidapps follow up on pagure issue 456; Package ggobi
* omnidapps file ticket on the main infra tracker for fedoraplanet theme
* shaane follow up with pyplane PR and post up to date spec file
* FranciscoD update spec are per review and submit updated version if
required
* hardeborlaa[m] vanessa_khris[m] oluyosola[m] HafsatAjia-Egbe4 review
each other's packages to practice the review process
* oluyosola chair next meeting
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* FranciscoD
* FranciscoD add arbor to comp-neuro image if it isn't included
* FranciscoD update spec are per review and submit updated version if
required
* hardeborlaa[m]
* hardeborlaa[m] vanessa_khris[m] oluyosola[m] HafsatAjia-Egbe4 review
each other's packages to practice the review process
* oluyosola[m]
* hardeborlaa[m] vanessa_khris[m] oluyosola[m] HafsatAjia-Egbe4 review
each other's packages to practice the review process
* omnidapps
* omnidapps follow up on pagure issue 456; Package ggobi
* omnidapps file ticket on the main infra tracker for fedoraplanet
theme
* vanessa_khris[m]
* hardeborlaa[m] vanessa_khris[m] oluyosola[m] HafsatAjia-Egbe4 review
each other's packages to practice the review process
* **UNASSIGNED**
*
* shaane follow up with pyplane PR and post up to date spec file
* oluyosola chair next meeting
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#fedora-meeting: F35 Final Go/No-Go meeting
===========================================
Meeting started by bcotton_ at 17:00:06 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (bcotton_, 17:00:22)
* Purpose of this meeting (bcotton_, 17:04:32)
* Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F35 Final is
ready for shipment, according to the release criteria. (bcotton_,
17:04:34)
* This is determined in a few ways: (bcotton_, 17:04:35)
* 1. No remaining blocker bugs (bcotton_, 17:04:37)
* 2. Release candidate compose is available (bcotton_, 17:04:38)
* 3. Test matrices for Final are fully completed (bcotton_, 17:04:40)
* Current status - blockers (bcotton_, 17:04:44)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist
(bcotton_, 17:04:46)
* 7 Proposed Blockers (bcotton_, 17:06:15)
* 2 Accepted Blockers (bcotton_, 17:06:17)
* 0 Accepted 0-day Blockers (bcotton_, 17:06:18)
* 0 Accepted Previous Release Blockers (bcotton_, 17:06:20)
* (2016310) The KDE LiveCD 35 RC does not boot in basic graphics mode.
(bcotton_, 17:06:32)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016310
(bcotton_, 17:06:33)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/562
(bcotton_, 17:06:35)
* Proposed Blocker, LiveCD - KDE, NEW (bcotton_, 17:06:36)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,0,-0) (+kparal, +sumantrom, +lruzicka,
+frantisekz) (bcotton_, 17:06:38)
* AGREED: 2016310 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - This is a clear
violation of the "basic graphics mode" criterion (bcotton_,
17:12:01)
* (2015809) app can't be installed&removed or removed&installed, without
Discover restart (bcotton_, 17:18:35)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015809
(bcotton_, 17:18:37)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/560
(bcotton_, 17:18:38)
* Proposed Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (bcotton_, 17:18:40)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-6) (+kparal, +lruzicka,
-frantisekz, -geraldosimiao, -adamwill, -bcotton, -kevin, -scorreia)
(bcotton_, 17:18:41)
* AGREED: 2015809 - RejectedBlocker(Final)
AcceptedFreezeException(Final) - It is functional enough to ship and
fix in an update, but we'd like to have it in the release if a fix
is available and we slip (bcotton_, 17:22:54)
* (2015490) It is possible to go through the initial setup without
creating a root and without adding a user to the wheel group
(bcotton_, 17:23:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015490
(bcotton_, 17:23:24)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/555
(bcotton_, 17:23:26)
* Proposed Blocker, initial-setup, NEW (bcotton_, 17:23:28)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-7) (+pwhalen, -catanzaro,
-lruzicka, -adamwill, -geraldosimiao, -bcotton, -kevin, -sumantrom)
(bcotton_, 17:23:29)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+adamwill) (bcotton_,
17:23:31)
* pwhalen is testing. we will come back to this (bcotton_, 17:30:16)
* (2010740) after enabling third-party repos, the included apps can't be
found (except Chrome) (bcotton_, 17:30:39)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2010740
(bcotton_, 17:30:40)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/500
(bcotton_, 17:30:42)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, ASSIGNED (bcotton_, 17:30:43)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-4) (+kparal, -catanzaro,
-frantisekz, -lruzicka, -sumantrom) (bcotton_, 17:30:45)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/500#comment-758656
(bittin, 17:33:49)
* AGREED: 2010740 - AcceptedBlocker(Final) - This occurs often enough
in testing to violate the final criterion: If an initial setup
utility is run or intended to be run after the first boot of the
installed system, then it must start successfully and each page or
panel of the initial setup utility should withstand a basic
functionality test. (bcotton_, 17:50:32)
* (2015490) It is possible to go through the initial setup without
creating a root and without adding a user to the wheel group
(bcotton_, 17:52:25)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015490
(bcotton_, 17:52:27)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/555
(bcotton_, 17:52:28)
* Proposed Blocker, initial-setup, NEW (bcotton_, 17:52:30)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-7) (+pwhalen, -catanzaro,
-lruzicka, -adamwill, -geraldosimiao, -bcotton, -kevin, -sumantrom)
(bcotton_, 17:52:31)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+adamwill) (bcotton_,
17:52:32)
* pwhalen confirms this behavior existed in F34 (bcotton_, 17:52:42)
* AGREED: 2015490 - RejectedBlocker(Final)
AcceptedFreezeException(Final) CommonBugs - This can be fixed with
a reinstall if noticed quickly and is a behavior that existed in
previous releases (bcotton_, 17:55:24)
* (2011928) Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs
(bcotton_, 17:55:55)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928
(bcotton_, 17:55:56)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/525
(bcotton_, 17:55:58)
* Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (bcotton_, 17:55:59)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+bcotton) (bcotton_, 17:56:01)
* ACTION: bcotton to Check with Major Hayden if he has a contact at
vexxhost who could help us with this (bcotton_, 18:06:26)
* We'll proceed with the remaining blockers and see if we can punt on
this one again (bcotton_, 18:07:47)
* (2015491) Install/Remove buttons are cropped, the text is off-screen
(bcotton_, 18:08:11)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015491
(bcotton_, 18:08:12)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/556
(bcotton_, 18:08:13)
* Proposed Blocker, plasma-discover, VERIFIED (bcotton_, 18:08:15)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,0,-0) (+kparal, +lruzicka, +bcotton,
+kevin) (bcotton_, 18:08:16)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+2,0,-0) (+adamwill, +sumantrom)
(bcotton_, 18:08:18)
* AGREED: 2015491 - AcceptedBlocker(Final) - This is fixed, but for
paperwork purposes, it violates the package manager functionality
requirements (bcotton_, 18:11:48)
* (2015972) systemd-vconsole-setup.service fails on an arabic system
(bcotton_, 18:12:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015972
(bcotton_, 18:12:17)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/561
(bcotton_, 18:12:19)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (bcotton_, 18:12:20)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,0,-2) (+adamwill, +bcotton, +kevin,
+frantisekz, -sgallagh, -lruzicka) (bcotton_, 18:12:22)
* AGREED: 2015972 - AcceptedBlocker(Final) - This is clear violation
of the "If a particular keyboard layout has been configured for the
system, that keyboard layout must be used: ... When logging in at a
console" criterion (bcotton_, 18:20:44)
* Accepted Blockers (bcotton_, 18:22:45)
* Not counting the ones accepted earlier in the meeting, we have 2
accepted blockers (bcotton_, 18:23:00)
* (bcotton_, 18:23:24)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001837
(bcotton_, 18:23:27)
* Accepted Blocker, fedora-third-party, ASSIGNED (bcotton_, 18:23:31)
* (bcotton_, 18:23:42)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011322
(bcotton_, 18:23:45)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, MODIFIED (bcotton_, 18:23:58)
* We still have outstanding blockers (bcotton_, 18:27:40)
* Current status - test matrices (bcotton_, 18:27:57)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_35_Test_Results
(bcotton_, 18:27:59)
* Coverage is good (bcotton_, 18:28:55)
* Current status - RC (bcotton_, 18:29:15)
* RC1 is the current release candidate (bcotton_, 18:29:21)
* Go/No-Go decision (bcotton_, 18:29:29)
* AGREED: F35 Final is NO-GO due to outstanding blockers (bcotton_,
18:30:03)
* AGREED: Fedora Linux 35 Final is NO-GO (bcotton_, 18:30:26)
* The next F35 Final Go/No-Go meeting will be Thursday, 2021-10-28 at
1700 UTC (bcotton_, 18:30:27)
* F35 Final shifts to target release date 2: Tuesday 2021-11-02
(bcotton_, 18:30:29)
* ACTION: bcotton to announce decision (bcotton_, 18:30:45)
* ACTION: bcotton to update BZs with blocker decisions (bcotton_,
18:30:56)
* Open floor (bcotton_, 18:31:05)
Meeting ended at 18:32:36 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* bcotton to Check with Major Hayden if he has a contact at vexxhost who
could help us with this
* bcotton to announce decision
* bcotton to update BZs with blocker decisions
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* bcotton to Check with Major Hayden if he has a contact at vexxhost
who could help us with this
* bcotton to announce decision
* bcotton to update BZs with blocker decisions
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (104)
* nirik (42)
* pwhalen (33)
* geraldosimiao (33)
* bittin (31)
* lruzicka2 (21)
* Southern_Gentlem (16)
* sumantro (14)
* kparal (14)
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#fedora-meeting-3: Infrastructure (2021-10-21)
==============================================
Meeting started by eddiejennings at 16:00:14 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2021-10-21/infrastructur…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra (eddiejennings,
16:01:07)
* About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
(eddiejennings, 16:01:28)
* greetings! (eddiejennings, 16:01:37)
* New folks introductions (eddiejennings, 16:03:05)
* This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora
Infrastructure can introduce themselves (eddiejennings, 16:03:18)
* Getting Started Guide:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
(eddiejennings, 16:03:20)
* Next Chair (eddiejennings, 16:06:46)
* magic eight ball says: (eddiejennings, 16:07:05)
* chair 2021-10-21 - eddiejennings (eddiejennings, 16:07:07)
* chair 2021-10-28 - petebuffon (eddiejennings, 16:07:09)
* chair 2021-11-04 - lenkaseg (eddiejennings, 16:08:28)
* announcements and information (eddiejennings, 16:10:56)
* CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in
#centos-meeting (eddiejennings, 16:11:18)
* CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in
#fedora-meeting-3 (eddiejennings, 16:11:20)
* If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team,
file an isssue:
https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
(eddiejennings, 16:11:38)
* Fedora 35 Beta was released on 2021-09-28 (eddiejennings, 16:11:52)
* Fedora 35 Final freeze is in effect (eddiejennings, 16:11:54)
* f35 go/no-go meeting right after this one at 17UTC today (nirik,
16:12:41)
* tomorrow is a Red Hat recharge day, many RH folks will not be around
(nirik, 16:13:04)
* Oncall (eddiejennings, 16:17:15)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
(eddiejennings, 16:17:38)
* https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
(eddiejennings, 16:17:40)
* eddiejennings on call from 2021-10-14 to 2021-10-21 (eddiejennings,
16:17:42)
* nirik on call from 2021-10-21 to 2021-10-28 (eddiejennings,
16:17:44)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
(eddiejennings, 16:21:21)
* darknao on call from 2021-10-28 to 2021-11-04 (eddiejennings,
16:24:02)
* eddiejennings on call from 2021-11-04 to 2021-11-11 (eddiejennings,
16:24:04)
* Summary of last week: (from current oncall) (eddiejennings,
16:24:20)
* Monitoring discussion [nirik] (eddiejennings, 16:26:06)
* https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios (eddiejennings, 16:26:19)
* Go over existing out items and fix (eddiejennings, 16:26:21)
* 2021-10-28 - Introduction to AWS and Fedora Infrastructure [nirik]
(eddiejennings, 16:36:53)
* Fedora Infra backlog refinement (eddiejennings, 16:37:25)
* Refine oldest tickets on
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues (eddiejennings,
16:37:27)
* Open Floor (eddiejennings, 16:53:35)
* LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/ (nirik,
16:57:36)
Meeting ended at 17:01:40 UTC.
Action Items
------------
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-----------------------
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* (none)
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#fedora-meeting: magazine
=========================
Meeting started by glb[m] at 15:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2021-10-21/magazine.2021-1…
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call (glb[m], 15:00:19)
* Agenda... (full message at
https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/2cac4e5376eae…)
(glb[m], 15:04:31)
* 1/ Last week's stats (glb[m], 15:04:47)
* Week of Oct 11: 60.4K pageviews -- up by 10K from the previous week!
(glb[m], 15:04:55)
* 2/ In progress followup (glb[m], 15:05:07)
* Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been
finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? (glb[m],
15:05:07)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:05:07)
* Are there any upcoming test days? (glb[m], 15:14:00)
* LINK: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/ (glb[m], 15:14:00)
* Review release schedule (glb[m], 15:14:24)
* LINK:
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-35/f-35-magazine-tasks.html
(glb[m], 15:14:24)
* ACTION: glb to check with bcotton about how the release annoucement
and what's new article will be handled/scheduled. (glb[m],
15:18:27)
* ACTION: glb to figure out how to update the sidebar (glb[m],
15:18:46)
* 3/ Finished articles to review (glb[m], 15:20:31)
* Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good
to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in
progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback. (glb[m],
15:20:31)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:20:31)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist
(bcotton, 15:28:26)
* 4/ Articles to edit (glb[m], 15:32:40)
* Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image
creator. (glb[m], 15:32:40)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:32:40)
* 5/ Publishing schedule (glb[m], 15:38:14)
* Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing
schedule for the next week period. (glb[m], 15:38:14)
* If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the
'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with
additional content. (glb[m], 15:38:14)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:38:14)
* AGREED: PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 22 Oct 2021: #378 MAKE MORE with
Inkscape – Papercraft (editor: @glb) | Mon 25 Oct 2021: #402 Ben
Cotton interview on upcoming Fedora Linux 35 release (editor: @glb)
| Tue 26 Oct 2021: #387 What's new in F35 Workstation announcement
(editor: @rlengland) | Wed 27 Oct 2021: #354 Bash Scripting for
beginners (editor: @rlengland) | Fri 29 Oct 2021: #401 Interview
about VR on Linux (editor: @rlengland) (glb[m], 15:39:48)
* 6/ Editor of the Week (glb[m], 15:40:00)
* glb will be editor of the week next week (glb[m], 15:40:50)
* 7/ Open floor (glb[m], 15:42:04)
* LINK:
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/its-more-fedora-than-it-is-fedora-no…
(glb[m], 15:51:25)
Meeting ended at 15:53:34 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* glb to check with bcotton about how the release annoucement and what's
new article will be handled/scheduled.
* glb to figure out how to update the sidebar
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* bcotton
* glb to check with bcotton about how the release annoucement and
what's new article will be handled/scheduled.
* glb
* glb to check with bcotton about how the release annoucement and
what's new article will be handled/scheduled.
* glb to figure out how to update the sidebar
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* glb[m] (114)
* RichardEngland[m (46)
* zodbot (16)
* nb (6)
* bcotton (5)
* glb (0)
* rlengland (0)
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#fedora-meeting-3: Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting
==================================================================
Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:30 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2021-10-20/fedora_infras…
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops (nirik,
18:00:31)
* agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily (nirik, 18:00:31)
* reminder: speak up if you want to work on a ticket! (nirik, 18:00:32)
* Tickets needing review (nirik, 18:00:34)
*
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&priority=1
(nirik, 18:00:36)
* Planning / Upcoming items (nirik, 18:07:40)
* friday is a red hat recharge day so most Red Hat folks will be away.
(nirik, 18:08:02)
* We have a Fedora 32 Final RC, please test it. (nirik, 18:08:42)
* Discussion / AOB (nirik, 18:11:11)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/joystick/ and plume (nirik, 18:22:44)
Meeting ended at 18:24:51 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
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* davdunc (14)
* zodbot (11)
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-10-19)
==============================================
Meeting started by brainycmurf at 16:23:11 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-10-19/workstation.2…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Rollcall (brainycmurf, 16:23:28)
* present: Tom, Chris, Michael, Matthias, Neal, Owen, Allan, Kalev
(brainycmurf, 16:23:29)
* regrets: (brainycmurf, 16:23:29)
* present guests: fborges (brainycmurf, 16:23:29)
* Approval of October 12 minutes (brainycmurf, 16:23:29)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-10-12-…
(brainycmurf, 16:23:29)
* AGREED: No objections - agreed (brainycmurf, 16:23:31)
* Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (brainycmurf, 16:23:33)
* Allan: New working group landing page on docs site
(https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/workstation-working-group/ )
(brainycmurf, 16:23:35)
* State of Fedora Workstation 35 under freeze (brainycmurf, 16:23:38)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist
(brainycmurf, 16:23:40)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001837 still an
issue. Have had multiple rounds of fixes and testing. Owen still
helping out here, but thinks we have an initial working solution.
(brainycmurf, 16:23:42)
* Fedora Workstation release schedule / check list (brainycmurf,
16:23:47)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/250 (brainycmurf,
16:23:51)
* Please check over the list and suggest necessary additions (Tomas
will ask Adam Williamson to review) (brainycmurf, 16:23:53)
* Tomas asks how it should be tracked: file issues in pagure, shared
google calendar, Fedora schedule page. Last option is likely best,
but how do we track the actionable? Neal says that could use
milestones in Pagure, possibly, but we should see how the calendar
looks first so we have a concrete idea. Tomas - should be
responsibility of workstation chair. (brainycmurf, 16:23:56)
* Fedora 36 chair (brainycmurf, 16:24:01)
* Allan volunteers - may need to delegate topics where he has a
contrarian view or that are highly technical. (brainycmurf,
16:24:03)
* AGREED: Allan will be the chair for the Fedora 36 cycle
(brainycmurf, 16:24:06)
* AGREED: Chris will be the vice/backup chair for the cycle
(brainycmurf, 16:24:08)
* Supporting status notifiers in Fedora Workstation by default
(brainycmurf, 16:24:10)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/246 (brainycmurf,
16:24:12)
* Hans de Goede (co-maintainer of current extensions) feels it would
be suitable for inclusion as is (brainycmurf, 16:24:14)
* Allan has been doing research - trying out different implementations
on Linux, looking what Mac/Windows do. Will talk to peers at
Canonical, etc. Asks about whether this is a) something that we are
including purely for compatibility with other platforms b) something
that we want to recommend in other circumstances. (brainycmurf,
16:24:17)
* question raised whether we should enable extension by default now in
rawhide - Allan would like to have some time for design and
discussion - and does not thing that we should enable it if it has
xembed support that is broken for apps like dropbox and hexchat.
(Thought is that probably if we don't have xembed enabled, dropbox
will work via app-indicators.) (brainycmurf, 16:24:23)
* Neal suggests that if you install the RPM, it should be turned on by
default without an additional step. people were generally OK with
this. (brainycmurf, 16:24:28)
* ACTION: Neal will look into what that involves (brainycmurf,
16:24:31)
Meeting ended at 16:26:56 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Neal will look into what that involves
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* Neal
* Neal will look into what that involves
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#ansible-docs: Documentation Working Group aka DaWGs
====================================================
Meeting started by samccann at 15:01:31 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
---------------
* opening chatter (samccann, 15:01:37)
* agenda at
https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/579#issuecomment-945632120
(samccann, 15:05:34)
* action item review (samccann, 15:05:45)
* ACTION: ariordan to reword boilerplate text on collection module
page to something like You may already have this collection
installed if you are using the ansible package. To check, run
ansible-galaxy collection list. If it is not installed, you can
install it with: (samccann, 15:21:32)
* Felixfontein's items (samccann, 15:24:13)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/319
(samccann, 15:25:41)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/320
(samccann, 15:32:33)
* LINK:
https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/319#issuecomment-946844…
- comment added (acozine, 15:33:42)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/296
(samccann, 15:43:56)
* consensus is the alternating row colors is great but some people
miss the border lines. (samccann, 15:59:12)
* to test this locally - pip install
https://github.com/bmillemathias/antsibull/archive/borderless-module-option…
(samccann, 15:59:26)
* ACTION: samccann to try the border shading PR locally and on jenkins
so we can test with multiple browsers, on phones/tablets etc
(samccann, 15:59:54)
* OpenFloor (samccann, 16:00:56)
Meeting ended at 16:13:50 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* ariordan to reword boilerplate text on collection module page to
something like You may already have this collection installed if you
are using the ansible package. To check, run ansible-galaxy collection
list. If it is not installed, you can install it with:
* samccann to try the border shading PR locally and on jenkins so we can
test with multiple browsers, on phones/tablets etc
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* ariordan
* ariordan to reword boilerplate text on collection module page to
something like You may already have this collection installed if you
are using the ansible package. To check, run ansible-galaxy
collection list. If it is not installed, you can install it with:
* samccann
* samccann to try the border shading PR locally and on jenkins so we
can test with multiple browsers, on phones/tablets etc
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#fedora-blocker-review: F35-blocker-review
==========================================
Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:37 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2021-10-18/f35-bloc…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:44)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:09:39)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:09:44)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:09:47)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:09:51)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:09:54)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:09:58)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:10:00)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:03)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:06)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:11)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:10:37)
* 3 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:41)
* 7 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:44)
* 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:48)
* 6 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:52)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:11:05)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:11:11)
* (2012758) clevis - thread 'main' panicked at 'called `Option::unwrap()
(adamw, 16:11:17)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012758 (adamw,
16:11:19)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/543 (adamw,
16:11:22)
* Proposed Blocker, clevis-pin-tpm2, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:11:24)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,0,-0) (+bcotton, +geraldosimiao,
+mattdm, +lruzicka) (adamw, 16:11:31)
* we'll table this for a bit to see if we can get more info from
pbrobinson before voting (adamw, 16:15:50)
* (2010058) F34/F35 5.14 kernels will not boot on AWS EC2 t2.small /
c4.large / m4.large instances (adamw, 16:16:05)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2010058 (adamw,
16:16:15)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/549 (adamw,
16:16:19)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (adamw, 16:16:22)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+4,0,-0) (+adamwill, +bcotton,
+mattdm, +lruzicka) (adamw, 16:16:26)
* AGREED: 2010058 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException
(Final) - on current understanding this does not violate the
criterion, as we do have at least one working instance type per arch
(which is all the criterion requires). But it's clearly a big
problem worth fixing for release (and we intend to do so) (adamw,
16:24:57)
* (2011928) Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs
(adamw, 16:25:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928 (adamw,
16:25:09)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/525 (adamw,
16:25:12)
* Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 16:25:17)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+bcotton) (adamw, 16:25:19)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928#c36 throws
the cat among the pigeons a bit (adamw, 16:26:52)
* AGREED: 2011928 - punt (delay decision) on blocker,
AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - though it's very late, we're still
actively researching this and can't be sure yet if it needs to block
the release. many folks are working on it actively and we hope for
developments soon. We agree it's at least serious enough to grant a
freeze exception in any case. (adamw, 16:42:20)
* Proposed Final freeze exceptions (adamw, 16:43:15)
* (2014421) Include the latest build that fixes issues on GNOME 41
(adamw, 16:43:20)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2014421 (adamw,
16:43:25)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/550 (adamw,
16:43:27)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-shell-extension-dash-to-dock,
ON_QA (adamw, 16:43:31)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+1,0,-1) (+lruzicka, -kparal)
(adamw, 16:43:34)
* AGREED: 2014421 - RejectedFreezeException (Final) - as this
extension is not on the media, there's no real need for a freeze
exception here, a 0-day update achieves the same goal. (adamw,
17:00:09)
* (2012863) Gnome Software does not refresh after installation from RPM.
(adamw, 17:00:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012863 (adamw,
17:00:40)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/530 (adamw,
17:00:44)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 17:00:47)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+3,1,-0) (+catanzaro, +bcotton,
+geraldosimiao, kparal) (adamw, 17:00:52)
* AGREED: 2012863 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - we accept this
as there is a practical bug here it'd be nice to fix (can't remove a
package after installing it unless you restart Software), but we
want to be very sure the fix is safe before we actually pull it in
(adamw, 17:21:38)
* (1990584) F35FailsToInstall: rust-matrixmultiply+thread-tree-devel,
rust-matrixmultiply+threading-devel (adamw, 17:21:51)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1990584 (adamw,
17:21:55)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/554 (adamw,
17:21:58)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, rust-matrixmultiply, MODIFIED, depends
on other bugs (adamw, 17:22:01)
* AGREED: 1990584 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - no harm fixing
an FTI issue so the frozen tree is good and upgrades work until the
release day (adamw, 17:30:36)
* Accepted Final blockers (adamw, 17:32:39)
* (2011291) Discover shows a misleading state of Flatpak repos, can't
delete disabled repos (adamw, 17:35:55)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011291 (adamw,
17:35:58)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/512 (adamw,
17:36:02)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:36:05)
* we have fixes for these as of this morning. I have confirmed the
first "misleading state" fix, the "can't delete disabled" fix showed
up during the meeting and I haven't tested it yet, but it should be
good (adamw, 17:36:41)
* (2011333) Toggling repo in Discover doesn't redraw the checkbox,
confusing users (adamw, 17:36:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011333 (adamw,
17:37:00)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/517 (adamw,
17:37:03)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:37:07)
* we also now have a fix for this, I have confirmed that it works.
I'll submit updates later today (adamw, 17:37:28)
* (2011322) Discover doesn't seem to find any RPM packages, neither
locally installed nor in RPM repos (but just under en_US locale)
(adamw, 17:37:41)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011322 (adamw,
17:37:44)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/515 (adamw,
17:37:46)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:37:50)
* this one is outstanding, but at least we worked out the trigger (bug
only happens in US locale, for some reason). KDE devs are actively
helping us look into this one now, we hope to try and get somewhere
with it today. (adamw, 17:38:45)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 17:49:16)
* (2012758) clevis - thread 'main' panicked at 'called `Option::unwrap()
(adamw, 17:49:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012758 (adamw,
17:49:30)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/543 (adamw,
17:49:33)
* Proposed Blocker, clevis-pin-tpm2, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:49:36)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,0,-0) (+bcotton, +geraldosimiao,
+mattdm, +lruzicka) (adamw, 17:49:40)
* AGREED: 2012758 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - we accept this as a
blocker on the basis that it violates "When configured on hardware
with a Trusted Platform Module (TPM), it must be possible for the
Clevis utility to automatically decrypt any encrypted partitions on
boot without any user intervention" in enough cases. If further
information suggests that's not the case, we may change the decision
(adamw, 17:54:11)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:54:14)
Meeting ended at 18:05:57 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
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* (none)
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#fedora-meeting-3: Infrastructure (2021-10-14)
==============================================
Meeting started by dtometzki at 16:00:40 UTC. The full logs are
available at
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra (dtometzki, 16:00:40)
* About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ (dtometzki,
16:00:40)
* greetings! (dtometzki, 16:00:42)
* New folks introductions (dtometzki, 16:04:23)
* This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora
Infrastructure can introduce themselves (dtometzki, 16:04:23)
* Getting Started Guide:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
(dtometzki, 16:04:23)
* Next chair (dtometzki, 16:06:53)
* magic eight ball says: (dtometzki, 16:06:53)
* chair 2021-10-21 - eddiejennings (dtometzki, 16:06:53)
* chair 2021-10-28 - petebuffon (dtometzki, 16:06:53)
* announcements and information (dtometzki, 16:09:08)
* CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in
#centos-meeting (dtometzki, 16:09:08)
* CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in
#fedora-meeting-3 (dtometzki, 16:09:08)
* If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team,
file an isssue:
https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
(dtometzki, 16:09:08)
* Fedora 35 Beta was released on 2021-09-28 (dtometzki, 16:09:12)
* Fedora 35 Final freeze is in effect (dtometzki, 16:09:14)
* Oncall (dtometzki, 16:12:43)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall (dtometzki,
16:12:43)
* https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
(dtometzki, 16:12:43)
* mobrien on call from 2021-10-07 to 2021-10-14 (dtometzki, 16:12:43)
* eddiejennings on call from 2021-10-14 to 2021-10-21 (dtometzki,
16:12:43)
* nirik on call from 2021-10-21 to 2021-10-28 (dtometzki, 16:12:44)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall (dtometzki,
16:12:48)
* https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
(dtometzki, 16:12:50)
* mobrien on call from 2021-10-07 to 2021-10-14 (dtometzki, 16:12:52)
* eddiejennings on call from 2021-10-14 to 2021-10-21 (dtometzki,
16:12:54)
* nirik on call from 2021-10-21 to 2021-10-28 (dtometzki, 16:12:56)
* Oncall (dtometzki, 16:13:23)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall (dtometzki,
16:13:23)
* https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
(dtometzki, 16:13:23)
* mobrien on call from 2021-10-07 to 2021-10-14 (dtometzki, 16:13:23)
* eddiejennings on call from 2021-10-14 to 2021-10-21 (dtometzki,
16:13:23)
* nirik on call from 2021-10-21 to 2021-10-28 (dtometzki, 16:13:24)
* petebuffon on call from 2021-10-28 to 2021-11-04 (dtometzki,
16:15:15)
* Summary of last week: (from current oncall ) (dtometzki, 16:16:49)
* Monitoring discussion [nirik] (dtometzki, 16:18:40)
* https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios (dtometzki, 16:18:40)
* Go over existing out items and fix (dtometzki, 16:18:40)
* Upcoming learning topics (dtometzki, 16:20:58)
* 2021-10-14 - How to communicate with Fedora infrastructure team
[mkonecny] (dtometzki, 16:20:58)
* Open Floor (dtometzki, 16:51:41)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/ (LenkaSegura[m],
16:56:52)
* LINK: https://github.com/fedora-infra/tiny-stage (nirik, 16:59:11)
Meeting ended at 17:01:54 UTC.
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-----------------------
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* (none)
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#fedora-meeting: magazine
=========================
Meeting started by glb[m] at 15:00:04 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (glb[m], 15:00:05)
* Agenda... (full message at
https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/2cac4e5376eae…)
(glb[m], 15:01:58)
* 1/ Last week's stats (glb[m], 15:02:45)
* Week of Oct 4: 50.7K pageviews -- trending down slightly from Sep
average. (glb[m], 15:02:56)
* 2/ In progress followup (glb[m], 15:03:22)
* Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been
finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? (glb[m],
15:03:22)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:03:22)
* Are there any upcoming test days? (glb[m], 15:18:36)
* LINK: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/ (glb[m], 15:18:36)
* Review release schedule (glb[m], 15:24:03)
* LINK:
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-35/f-35-magazine-tasks.html
(glb[m], 15:24:03)
* ACTION: glb to create a card for the F35 Release Announcement and
ping Matthew Miller about it. (glb[m], 15:26:50)
* 3/ Finished articles to review (glb[m], 15:27:16)
* Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good
to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in
progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback. (glb[m],
15:27:16)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:27:16)
* 4/ Articles to edit (glb[m], 15:35:13)
* Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image
creator. (glb[m], 15:35:13)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:35:13)
* 5/ Publishing schedule (glb[m], 15:36:59)
* Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing
schedule for the next week period. (glb[m], 15:36:59)
* If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the
'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with
additional content. (glb[m], 15:36:59)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(glb[m], 15:36:59)
* AGREED: ? (glb[m], 15:37:06)
* AGREED: PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri 15 Oct 2021: #383 Fedora Based
Home Solution Part 1: The Data Server (editor: @glb) -- Mon 18 Oct
2021: #377 Migrate containers from Raspberry Pi OS to Fedora
(editor: @glb) -- Wed 20 Oct 2021: #385 Docker and Fedora 35
(editor: rlengland) -- Fri 22 Oct 2021: #378 MAKE MORE with
Inkscape – Papercraft (editor: @glb) (glb[m], 15:40:06)
* 6/ Editor of the Week (glb[m], 15:40:12)
* glb will be editor of the week (glb[m], 15:40:59)
* 7/ Open floor (glb[m], 15:41:04)
Meeting ended at 15:43:58 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* glb to create a card for the F35 Release Announcement and ping Matthew
Miller about it.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* glb
* glb to create a card for the F35 Release Announcement and ping
Matthew Miller about it.
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* (none)
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#fedora-meeting: EPEL (2021-10-13)
==================================
Meeting started by tdawson at 20:00:26 UTC. The full logs are available
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* aloha (tdawson, 20:00:26)
* Old Business (tdawson, 20:07:07)
* EPEL-7 (tdawson, 20:38:36)
* EPEL-8 (tdawson, 20:45:05)
* EPEL-Packaging-SIG (tdawson, 20:46:53)
* General Issues / Open Floor (tdawson, 20:52:00)
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#fedora-meeting-3: Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting
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* agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily (nirik, 18:00:05)
* reminder: speak up if you want to work on a ticket! (nirik, 18:00:06)
* Tickets needing review (nirik, 18:00:08)
*
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&priority=1
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* Planning / upcoming work (nirik, 18:08:11)
* next friday 2021-10-22 is a red hat recharge day (nirik, 18:09:04)
* Discussion / All other business (nirik, 18:10:15)
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* (none)
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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting
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Meeting started by lucab at 16:30:51 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* roll call (lucab, 16:31:02)
* Action items from last meeting (lucab, 16:35:17)
* jlebon created #990 to track running kubernetes node e2e tests in
our CI (dustymabe, 16:37:05)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/990
(dustymabe, 16:37:07)
* re k8s and cri-o:
https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/767 (lorbus,
16:39:18)
* FCOS auto-updates are now disabled on k8s e2e CI
https://github.com/kubernetes/test-infra/pull/23926 (lucab,
16:40:41)
* Change EFI-System partition format from fat16 to fat32 (lucab,
16:43:18)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/993
(lucab, 16:43:37)
* ACTION: dustymabe to write docs for rpi4 including updating eeprom
(dustymabe, 17:20:19)
* AGREED: For now, we will document workarounds for systems that can't
boot from a FAT16 ESP, including older Raspberry Pi firmware. Next
time we change the partition layout, we will switch the ESP to FAT32
in both the 512b and 4Kn images, selecting a size of at least 257 MB
to fit a valid FAT32 filesystem. (bgilbert, 17:20:26)
* ACTION: bgilbert to write docs for switching to FAT32 (bgilbert,
17:23:36)
* Open floor (lucab, 17:25:51)
* Fedora CoreOS test day/week happening this week - please help
execute test cases especially if you have access to obscure hardware
platforms https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/122 (dustymabe,
17:25:57)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/ignition/pull/1269 (bgilbert,
17:26:00)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/982
(scorreia, 17:26:46)
Meeting ended at 17:33:19 UTC.
Action Items
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* dustymabe to write docs for rpi4 including updating eeprom
* bgilbert to write docs for switching to FAT32
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* bgilbert
* bgilbert to write docs for switching to FAT32
* dustymabe
* dustymabe to write docs for rpi4 including updating eeprom
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-10-12)
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Meeting started by brainycmurf at 21:05:22 UTC. The full logs are
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Meeting summary
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* Rollcall (brainycmurf, 21:05:36)
* present: Tom, Michael, Jens, Neal, Chris, Allan (scribe as Owen not
present in the beginning), Owen (brainycmurf, 21:05:36)
* regrets: Matthias (brainycmurf, 21:05:36)
* present guests: Felipe, Zac (brainycmurf, 21:05:36)
* Approval of October 5 minutes (brainycmurf, 21:05:36)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-10-05-…
(brainycmurf, 21:05:38)
* AGREED: No objections - agreed (brainycmurf, 21:05:40)
* Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (brainycmurf, 21:05:42)
* Docs are still broken; hoping to get it unbroken (brainycmurf,
21:05:44)
* Wallpaper process for F36 has started (brainycmurf, 21:05:46)
* Wireplumber is staying in F35 (brainycmurf, 21:05:53)
* State of Fedora Workstation 35 under freeze (brainycmurf, 21:05:59)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist
(brainycmurf, 21:06:01)
* Aside from geoclue and flatpak, workstation doesn't have any
blockers (brainycmurf, 21:06:03)
* ACTION: Allan to check with Ondrej that the nautilus fix is incoming
for F35. Felipe to take a look at the fix too. (brainycmurf,
21:06:11)
* Supporting status notifiers in Fedora Workstation by default
(brainycmurf, 21:06:14)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/246 (brainycmurf,
21:06:16)
Meeting ended at 21:07:50 UTC.
Action Items
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* Allan to check with Ondrej that the nautilus fix is incoming for F35.
Felipe to take a look at the fix too.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
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* Allan to check with Ondrej that the nautilus fix is incoming for
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2021-10-11)
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Meeting started by zbyszek at 19:00:15 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* init process (zbyszek, 19:00:15)
* #2667 F36 Change: Enable exclude_from_weak_autodetect by default in
LIBDNF (zbyszek, 19:02:09)
* #2672 Nonresponsive group: @java-maint-sig (zbyszek, 19:04:37)
* AGREED: @java-maint-sig is declared "nonresponsive", and the plan
(pasted below) will be implemented. (+7, 0, 0) (zbyszek, 19:12:59)
* Next week's chair (zbyszek, 19:13:21)
* ACTION: zbyszek will chair next meeting (zbyszek, 19:13:56)
* Open Floor (zbyszek, 19:14:01)
* https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist
(zbyszek, 19:17:46)
Meeting ended at 19:20:02 UTC.
Action Items
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* zbyszek will chair next meeting
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* zbyszek
* zbyszek will chair next meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#fedora-blocker-review: F35-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:55 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:07)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:09:19)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:09:29)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:09:34)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:09:38)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:09:44)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:09:48)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:09:52)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:09:56)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:00)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:05)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:10:08)
* 7 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:15)
* 12 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:20)
* 8 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:23)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:10:35)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:10:40)
* (2009460) It's impossible to take a screenshot on Wayland with GNOME
41 (adamw, 16:10:51)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2009460 (adamw,
16:10:54)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/526 (adamw,
16:11:00)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:11:04)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-3) (+lruzicka, -catanzaro, -kparal,
-frantisekz) (adamw, 16:11:07)
* AGREED: 2009460 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - multiple testers found
no bugs in basic functionality here, screenshot taking generally
works as intended via shortcuts and in the app launched from the
overview (adamw, 16:20:16)
* (2012817) missing Source drop-down in gnome-software -> not allowing
to uninstall applications, misleading users (adamw, 16:20:29)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012817 (adamw,
16:20:33)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/529 (adamw,
16:20:37)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 16:20:41)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-frantisekz) (adamw, 16:20:44)
* LINK:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/1490#note_1287432
(adamw, 16:25:34)
* AGREED: 2012817 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - per discussion in the
bug reports downstream and upstream the problems here seem to be
triggered by specific qualtiies of Homebank's flatpak metadata, thus
they're not really broad enough to count as basic functionality
failures (and can be fixed outside of Fedora, in the metadata)
(adamw, 16:29:47)
* (2012863) Gnome Software does not refresh after installation from RPM.
(adamw, 16:30:14)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012863 (adamw,
16:30:15)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/530 (adamw,
16:30:15)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 16:30:15)
* AGREED: 2012863 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - as no practical
consequences of this have been identified, we agreed it's not really
significant enough to count as a failure of "basic functionality",
and so it does not meet the blocker criteria (adamw, 16:35:18)
* (2011928) Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs
(adamw, 16:35:30)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928 (adamw,
16:35:33)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/525 (adamw,
16:35:36)
* Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 16:35:40)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+bcotton) (adamw, 16:35:43)
* AGREED: 2011928 - punt (delay decision) - this is definitely a
worrying bug but so far we have only a single reporter and not much
detail or feedback from kernel/arm/cloud groups. we will try to get
more input on this issue this week and take further action (adamw,
16:54:59)
* (2008803) openh264 crashes for all videos (adamw, 16:55:22)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2008803 (adamw,
16:55:26)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/521 (adamw,
16:55:30)
* Proposed Blocker, openh264, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:55:38)
* Ticket vote: 0Day (+8,0,-0) (+catanzaro, +mohanboddu, +bcotton,
+kevin, +lruzicka, +geraldosimiao, +ngompa, +frantisekz) (adamw,
16:55:41)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process#Normal.2C_0-Day_a…
(adamw, 16:59:36)
* AGREED: 2008803 - Accepted0Day - this is accepted as a 0-day blocker
by ticket vote of +8 (was not cleared before meeting due to
blockerbugs webUI limitation) (adamw, 16:59:37)
* (2011774) Toggled repos in Discover jump to the bottom of the list,
and other repo names are changed to undefined (adamw, 17:01:37)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011774 (adamw,
17:01:45)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/528 (adamw,
17:01:48)
* Proposed Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:01:51)
* AGREED: 2011774 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException
(Final) - we agreed that while this looks bad, the operation does
work, so critical functionality is maintained. It's accepted as an
FE issue if it can be fixed relatively safely, as it does look
pretty bad. (adamw, 17:12:20)
* (2011231) HDMI Audio Device is invisible/inactive unless you manually
assign it a profile (adamw, 17:12:20)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011231 (adamw,
17:12:21)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/511 (adamw,
17:12:21)
* Proposed Blocker, plasma-systemsettings, NEW (adamw, 17:12:23)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+4,0,-0) (+bcotton, +mohanboddu,
+kevin, +adamwill) (adamw, 17:12:27)
* AGREED: 2011231 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - we agreed that this
seems too limited in impact (at least to HDMI audio output on KDE,
and possibly to the specific device) to be considered a criteria
violation. note that it is already accepted as an FE issue. (adamw,
17:26:01)
* Accepted Final blockers (adamw, 17:26:43)
* will skip ones that are clearly on the way to being resolved
(adamw, 17:27:00)
* a reminder that we're checking status/progress here, not re-voting
unless we specifically decide to (adamw, 17:27:13)
* (1991075) time is transiently incorrect when Automatic Time Zone is
enabled (adamw, 17:27:18)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1991075 (adamw,
17:27:22)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/389 (adamw,
17:27:25)
* Accepted Blocker, geoclue2, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:27:28)
* the existing update does not fully resolve this (adamw, 17:28:06)
* desktop team are actively working on it and intend further progress
today (adamw, 17:28:17)
* (1989726) [abrt] gnome-shell: cogl_texture_get_gl_texture():
gnome-shell killed by SIGSEGV (adamw, 17:30:35)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1989726 (adamw,
17:30:40)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/399 (adamw,
17:30:43)
* Accepted Blocker, mesa, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:30:46)
* per karol herbst's most recent comments this should be fixable now,
we are waiting for him to submit the PRs he planned (adamw,
17:32:22)
* ACTION: adamw to check in with karol if PRs do not show up soon
(adamw, 17:32:31)
* (2011291) Discover shows a misleading state of Flatpak repos, can't
delete disabled repos (adamw, 17:33:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011291 (adamw,
17:33:54)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/512 (adamw,
17:33:57)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:34:00)
* this has been reported upstream and had some attention, but doesn't
look like any prospect of a fix yet (adamw, 17:41:24)
* (2011322) Discover doesn't seem to find any RPM packages, neither
locally installed nor in RPM repos (adamw, 17:45:49)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011322 (adamw,
17:45:53)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/515 (adamw,
17:45:55)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:46:00)
* there isn't any obvious progress on a fix for this, but myself and
geraldo found we cannot reproduce the bug with 5.22 or 5.23, we get
correct behaviour in all cases identified by kamil. we speculate
this behaviour may occur only until some repodata is properly
retrieved? we will continue to investigate (adamw, 17:55:40)
* (2011333) Toggling repo in Discover doesn't redraw the checkbox,
confusing users (adamw, 17:57:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011333 (adamw,
17:57:46)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/517 (adamw,
17:57:51)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:57:56)
* no apparent movement on a fix for this either (adamw, 17:58:56)
* ACTION: adamw to poke KDE team about series of unaddressed blockers,
try and figure out an action plan (adamw, 18:01:37)
* (2001837) The switch for Fedora Third Party repositories does not
switch them on. (adamw, 18:02:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001837 (adamw,
18:02:53)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/455 (adamw,
18:02:57)
* Accepted Blocker, selinux-policy, ASSIGNED (adamw, 18:03:00)
* there seem to be different findings as to whether this is yet fully
fixed (adamw, 18:06:08)
* we will try to get more testing done to confirm whether this is
actually fixed (adamw, 18:06:46)
* Open floor (adamw, 18:07:41)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012948
(Southern_Gentlem, 18:10:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012950
(Southern_Gentlem, 18:10:29)
* AGREED: 2012948 and 2012950 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as
clear violations of "A fedora-release package containing the correct
names, information and repository configuration for a final Fedora
release must be present on release-blocking images" (adamw,
18:19:36)
Meeting ended at 18:22:10 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to check in with karol if PRs do not show up soon
* adamw to poke KDE team about series of unaddressed blockers, try and
figure out an action plan
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to check in with karol if PRs do not show up soon
* adamw to poke KDE team about series of unaddressed blockers, try and
figure out an action plan
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#fedora-neuro: NeuroFedora - 2021-10-11
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Meeting started by FranciscoD at 13:00:19 UTC. The full logs are
available at
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Meeting summary
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* Agenda for today (FranciscoD, 13:00:54)
* New introductions and roll call. (FranciscoD, 13:01:01)
* Tasks from last meeting. (FranciscoD, 13:01:05)
* Open Pagure tickets. (FranciscoD, 13:01:12)
* Package health check. (FranciscoD, 13:01:29)
* Open package reviews check. (FranciscoD, 13:01:33)
* CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 35/36. (FranciscoD,
13:01:39)
* Neuroscience query of the week (FranciscoD, 13:01:44)
* Next meeting day, and chair. (FranciscoD, 13:01:48)
* Open floor: anything that is not on the agenda (FranciscoD,
13:02:03)
* New introductions and roll call (FranciscoD, 13:02:11)
* Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD): ankursinha, UTC+1 (London); NeuroFedora
and general packaging and other community activities (FranciscoD,
13:03:00)
* I am Oluyosola Afolabi (oluyosola), UTC +1(Nigeria) Extend and
improve NeuroFedora's user consumable artefacts. (oluyosola[m],
13:05:46)
* we applied for outreachy and we have lots of great candidates
looking to help and learn:
https://www.outreachy.org/apply/project-selection/#fedora
(FranciscoD, 13:07:08)
* Tasks from last meeting (FranciscoD, 13:07:34)
* Minutes from the previous meeting are here:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/neurofedora/neurofedora.2021-09-27-…
(FranciscoD, 13:07:46)
* FranciscoD add arbor to comp-neuro image if it isn't included:
WIP/PENDING (FranciscoD, 13:08:10)
* ACTION: FranciscoD add arbor to comp-neuro image if it isn't
included (FranciscoD, 13:08:25)
* MeWjOr add PR info to our tracker ticket:
https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/461: DONE
(FranciscoD, 13:09:38)
* omnidapps follow up with fedora infra on planet migration
(FranciscoD, 13:10:38)
* ACTION: omnidapps follow up with fedora infra on planet migration
(FranciscoD, 13:12:06)
* omnidapps follow up with fedora infra on planet migration: WIP
(FranciscoD, 13:12:13)
* shaane[m] send out logs: DONE (FranciscoD, 13:12:43)
* ACTION: FranciscoD send out logs (FranciscoD, 13:12:50)
* ACTION: shaane[m] FranciscoD work on pyplane spec after meeting
(FranciscoD, 13:19:09)
* Open Pagure tickets (FranciscoD, 13:26:57)
* We mark tickets on our issue tracker if they need to be discussed
during a meeting:
https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+m…
(FranciscoD, 13:27:16)
* No tickets to discuss this week (FranciscoD, 13:27:22)
* Vanessa Christopher (vanessa_khris): Vanessa, UTC+1 (Cameroon);
Extend and improve NeuroFedora's user consumable artefacts
(vanessa_khris[m], 13:27:30)
* Package health check (FranciscoD, 13:28:41)
* In this topic, we go through the koschei application which tells us
about all the packages we maintain and how they're doing
(FranciscoD, 13:29:06)
* hello, my name is Rebeca, from Brazil. I'm a journalist. I want to
learn how to collaborate with free software. I worked in science
journalism for a while, where we were writing about free software
and using open source tools. but I wanted to learn more and that's
why I joined this project. During college I tried to take an
introductory course in programming language, but it was complicated
because people find it strange (RebecaAlmeida[m], 13:31:06)
* ACTION: FranciscoD update koschei package list (FranciscoD,
13:36:11)
* Open package reviews check (FranciscoD, 13:38:06)
* In this topic, we go over current packages that are under "review".
(FranciscoD, 13:38:21)
* This is the tracker bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
(FranciscoD, 13:39:42)
* ACTION: shaane[m] review sphinxemoji (FranciscoD, 13:45:57)
* Reviews are healthy and in progress (FranciscoD, 13:48:16)
* CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 35/36 (FranciscoD,
13:48:40)
* In this topic, we (quickly) check to see if our Fedora based "Comp
Neuro" OS image is building properly or not (FranciscoD, 13:49:04)
* Both F35 and F36 Comp-neuro composes are fine (FranciscoD,
13:50:28)
* Neuroscience query of the week (FranciscoD, 13:50:57)
* In this topic, we discuss any neuroscience related ideas/queries you
may have (FranciscoD, 13:51:14)
* Next meeting day, and chair (FranciscoD, 13:55:43)
* AGREED: Next meeting in 2 weeks at 1300 UTC (FranciscoD, 13:56:34)
* ACTION: shaane[m] to chair the next meeting (FranciscoD, 13:57:11)
* Open floor (FranciscoD, 13:57:59)
* my name is Barakat Ajadi(barakat-ajadi): UTC-1 (Nigeria); I am
interested in community building and i love being in tech. I have a
degree in computer science and i will love to do more open source
projects which led me to outreachy and Fedora. Fun Fact: i love
travelling! (BarakatAjadi[m], 14:05:41)
Meeting ended at 14:09:26 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* FranciscoD add arbor to comp-neuro image if it isn't included
* omnidapps follow up with fedora infra on planet migration
* FranciscoD send out logs
* shaane[m] FranciscoD work on pyplane spec after meeting
* FranciscoD update koschei package list
* shaane[m] review sphinxemoji
* shaane[m] to chair the next meeting
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* FranciscoD send out logs
* shaane[m] FranciscoD work on pyplane spec after meeting
* FranciscoD update koschei package list
* omnidapps
* omnidapps follow up with fedora infra on planet migration
* shaane[m]
* shaane[m] FranciscoD work on pyplane spec after meeting
* shaane[m] review sphinxemoji
* shaane[m] to chair the next meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#fedora-meeting-1: Special Fedora QA meeting: Wireplumber
=========================================================
Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:19 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2021-10-08/fedora-qa.202…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:38)
* Should we revert to the simple session manager, or stick with
Wireplumber? (adamw, 16:06:02)
* a new update with fixes for several of the issues that have been
discussed was submitted recently:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-b70755fdc3
(adamw, 16:06:53)
* update has two positive responses, but one significant negative
response we can't look into further today (adamw, 16:07:57)
* some issues are not yet addressed: (adamw, 16:10:25)
* playback delay on digital connections when stream contains
passthrough-capable audio -
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/issues/63
(adamw, 16:11:06)
* (possibly) spotify audio output changing -
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/issues/59
(adamw, 16:11:31)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2008645 (adamw,
16:18:44)
* AGREED: After reviewing the current status of the bugs that have
been referred to, other bugs, and our own testing results, QA agrees
to recommend that we stick with wireplumber for the Fedora 35
release (adamw, 16:57:25)
Meeting ended at 17:01:01 UTC.
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------------
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-----------------------
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* (none)
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* lruzicka2 (22)
* geraldosimiao (16)
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#fedora-meeting: ELN SIG 2021-10-08
===================================
Meeting started by StephenGallagher at 16:01:49 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2021-10-08/eln.2021-10-08-…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Init Process (StephenGallagher, 16:02:07)
* Please be aware that the QA Special Meeting is being held in
#fedora-meeting-1 (StephenGallagher, 16:03:13)
* Status Update (StephenGallagher, 16:06:49)
* The updated DistroBuildSync is running in production. I am not aware
of any rebuild issues with it at this time. (StephenGallagher,
16:07:32)
* Our composes were failing for a week due to a package-signing issue
that I finally tracked down this morning. (StephenGallagher,
16:07:56)
* We have a functional ELN compose today (StephenGallagher, 16:08:12)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/10329# is the MR for
adding it to the SOP (StephenGallagher, 16:11:04)
* Open Floor (StephenGallagher, 16:12:46)
Meeting ended at 16:39:11 UTC.
Action Items
------------
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-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* jforbes (15)
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#fedora-meeting-3: Infrastructure (2021-10-07)
==============================================
Meeting started by darknao at 16:00:47 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2021-10-07/infrastructur…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra (darknao, 16:01:01)
* About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ (darknao,
16:01:03)
* greetings! (darknao, 16:01:05)
* New folks introductions (darknao, 16:04:59)
* This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora
Infrastructure can introduce themselves (darknao, 16:05:01)
* Getting Started Guide:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
(darknao, 16:05:03)
* Next chair (darknao, 16:08:43)
* magic eight ball says: (darknao, 16:08:44)
* chair 2021-10-14 - dtometzki (darknao, 16:08:46)
* chair 2021-10-21 - eddiejennings (darknao, 16:08:48)
* chair 2021-10-28 - ???y (darknao, 16:08:50)
* chair 2021-10-28 - petebuffon (darknao, 16:09:56)
* announcements and information (darknao, 16:10:34)
* CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in
#centos-meeting (darknao, 16:10:36)
* CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in
#fedora-meeting-3 (darknao, 16:10:38)
* If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team,
file an isssue:
https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
(darknao, 16:10:40)
* Fedora 35 Beta was released on 2021-09-28 (darknao, 16:10:42)
* Fedora 35 Final freeze is in effect (darknao, 16:10:44)
* Centos Dojo is today (2021-10-07 and 10-08) (darknao, 16:14:15)
* LINK: https://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/October2021 (darknao,
16:14:37)
* Oncall (darknao, 16:15:09)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall (darknao,
16:15:11)
* https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
(darknao, 16:15:13)
* dtometzki on call from 2021-10-01 to 2021-10-07 (darknao, 16:15:15)
* mobrien on call from 2021-10-07 to 2021-10-14 (darknao, 16:15:17)
* eddiejennings on call from 2021-10-14 to 2021-10-21 (darknao,
16:15:19)
* Monitoring discussion [nirik] (darknao, 16:18:31)
* https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios (darknao, 16:18:32)
* Go over existing out items and fix (darknao, 16:18:34)
* Fedora Infra backlog refinement (darknao, 16:22:20)
* Refine oldest tickets on
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues (darknao, 16:22:22)
* Open Floor (darknao, 16:53:36)
Meeting ended at 17:00:07 UTC.
Action Items
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-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* nirik (44)
* zlopez (34)
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#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
=========================================
Meeting started by RichardEngland[m at 15:01:34 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2021-10-07/magazine.2021-1…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call (RichardEngland[m, 15:01:55)
* Agenda (RichardEngland[m, 15:06:22)
* LINK:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/...
(full message at
https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/af0347c909d77…)
(RichardEngland[m, 15:06:32)
* 1/ Last week's stats (RichardEngland[m, 15:07:08)
* Week of September 27: 70.1K pageviews – Up 10k over last week.
(RichardEngland[m, 15:07:24)
* 2/ In progress followup (RichardEngland[m, 15:07:48)
* Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been
finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
(RichardEngland[m, 15:07:48)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(RichardEngland[m, 15:07:48)
* Are there any upcoming test days? (RichardEngland[m, 15:12:11)
* LINK: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/ (RichardEngland[m,
15:12:11)
* Review release schedule (RichardEngland[m, 15:13:19)
* LINK:
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-35/f-35-magazine-tasks.html
(RichardEngland[m, 15:14:03)
* Publish Final release announcement 19 Oct (RichardEngland[m,
15:14:48)
* Publish “What’s new in F35 Workstation” 19 Oct (RichardEngland[m,
15:14:48)
* Update WordPress sidebar 19 Oct (RichardEngland[m, 15:14:48)
* Publish “Rebasing Silverblue” 20 Oct (RichardEngland[m, 15:14:48)
* 3/ Finished articles to review (RichardEngland[m, 15:16:09)
* Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good
to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in
progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback.
(RichardEngland[m, 15:16:10)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(RichardEngland[m, 15:16:10)
* 4/ Articles to edit (RichardEngland[m, 15:38:08)
* Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image
creator. (RichardEngland[m, 15:38:08)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(RichardEngland[m, 15:38:08)
* 5/ Publishing schedule (RichardEngland[m, 15:58:55)
* Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing
schedule for the next week period. (RichardEngland[m, 15:58:55)
* If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the
'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with
additional content. (RichardEngland[m, 15:58:55)
* LINK: Board:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
(RichardEngland[m, 15:58:55)
* AGREED: PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Mon 11 Oct 2021: #385 Docker and Fedora
35 (image: DONE, edit: rlengland) -- Fri 15 Oct 2021: #383 Fedora
Based Home Solution Part 1: The Data Server (image: @glb, edit:
@glb) -- Tue 19 Oct 2021: #387 What's new in F35 Workstation
announcement (image: DONE, edit: @rlengland) -- Fri 22 Oct 2021:
#378 MAKE MORE with Inkscape – Papercraft (image: DONE, edit: @glb)
(RichardEngland[m, 15:59:59)
* 6/ Editor of the Week (RichardEngland[m, 16:00:17)
* glb will be Editor of the Week next week (RichardEngland[m,
16:00:33)
Meeting ended at 16:00:58 UTC.
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-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* glb[m] (27)
* zodbot (12)
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#ansible-community: Ansible Community Meeting
=============================================
Meeting started by felixfontein at 18:00:13 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2021-10-06/ansible_comm…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 (felixfontein,
18:00:13)
* Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/539 / Topics:
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics
(felixfontein, 18:00:17)
* Updates (felixfontein, 18:01:44)
* ansible-core 2.12.0b1 has been released (felixfontein, 18:02:12)
* Ansible 5.0.0a1 has been released (dmsimard, 18:02:24)
* We had a great Ansible Contributor Summit last week, we'll have a
blog post about it sometime in the near future (dmsimard, 18:03:16)
* abadger1999 will be moving on to new pastures after today's meeting.
(abadger1999, 18:06:03)
* Ansible Community Labs are now online
https://www.ansible.com/products/ansible-community-training feedback
very welcome via https://github.com/ansible/instruqt/discussions/54
(gundalow, 18:08:41)
* Change the date of the first ansible 5 maint release (felixfontein,
18:08:55)
* Discussion:
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/45
(felixfontein, 18:08:56)
* AGREED: we move the 5.1.0 planned release date to 2021-12-21, i.e. 3
weeks after 5.0.0 (felixfontein, 18:13:10)
* Proposed release schedule for community.general (upcoming major 4.0.0
release) (felixfontein, 18:13:19)
* Discussion:
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/46
(felixfontein, 18:13:23)
* AGREED: release community.general 4.0.0 after the next 3.8.0 minor
release and continue with a regular three-weeks schedule
(felixfontein, 18:17:21)
* Clarify Python version restriction documentation (felixfontein,
18:17:46)
* Discussion:
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/47
(felixfontein, 18:17:46)
* Collection requirements: expanding the section on best practices
(felixfontein, 18:30:52)
* Discussion:
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/33
(felixfontein, 18:30:55)
* If there are ways we can improve this (or the process more
generally) PLEASE talk to me, DMs are open (gundalow, 18:47:08)
* AGREED: we accept resource modules as a valid concept for all areas
(felixfontein, 18:47:29)
* Deprecation of servicenow.servicenow in favor of servicenow.itsm
(felixfontein, 18:49:43)
* Discussion:
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/44
(felixfontein, 18:49:46)
* ACTION: dmsimard to try and work with servicenow.servicenow to get a
new version out with deprecation notices (dmsimard, 19:02:38)
* Open Floor (felixfontein, 19:03:03)
Meeting ended at 19:05:30 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* dmsimard to try and work with servicenow.servicenow to get a new
version out with deprecation notices
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* dmsimard
* dmsimard to try and work with servicenow.servicenow to get a new
version out with deprecation notices
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* gundalow (20)
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* abadger1999 (16)
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#ansible-network: Ansible Network Working Group
===============================================
Meeting started by Qalthos[m] at 16:00:12 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-network/2021-10-06/ansible_networ…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/542 (Qalthos[m],
16:00:34)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/community/labels/network is where
the latest agenda can always be found (Qalthos[m], 16:00:58)
* Core Updates (Qalthos[m], 16:01:24)
* AnsibleFest was last week, I hope everyone had a chance to
participate (Qalthos[m], 16:03:16)
* If not, the session videos will remain online and available for a
good while, though I'm not precisely sure how long offhand
(Qalthos[m], 16:04:39)
* As well, the Contributor Summit happened, thanks to everyone who
participated in both the workshops starting on Tuesday and the
discussions on Friday (Qalthos[m], 16:07:03)
* the recordings for those should be up on YouTube in around a month
if previous history is any indication (Qalthos[m], 16:08:05)
* LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk73ND-uP3A is the recording
from Tuesday (Qalthos[m], 16:11:13)
* Friday's stream is currently being edited but should be back soon
(Qalthos[m], 16:13:47)
* The Networking team is working on finalizing their roadmap for the
next three months. It probably will not deviate much from
https://github.com/ansible/community/wiki/Network%3A2021-Till-Dec-Roadmap
which was published earlier this year, just refined based on where
we are now. (Qalthos[m], 16:21:48)
* Open Floor (Qalthos[m], 16:23:54)
Meeting ended at 16:48:10 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
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#fedora-meeting-1: Prioritized bugs and issues
==============================================
Meeting started by bcotton at 15:00:27 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2021-10-06/fedora_priori…
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Purpose of this meeting (bcotton, 15:00:41)
* The purpose of this process is to help with processing backlog of
bugs and issues found during the development, verification and use
of Fedora distribution. (bcotton, 15:00:46)
* The main goal is to raise visibility of bugs and issues to help
contributors focus on the most important issues. (bcotton,
15:00:53)
* LINK:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/#_…
(bcotton, 15:01:01)
* Roll Call (bcotton, 15:01:45)
* No one is here today (bcotton, 15:07:46)
* Next meeting (bcotton, 15:08:04)
* We will meet again on 20 October at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1
(bcotton, 15:08:33)
Meeting ended at 15:09:37 UTC.
Action Items
------------
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-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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---------------------------
* bcotton (15)
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* mattdm (2)
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-10-05)
==============================================
Meeting started by brainycmurf at 17:59:35 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-10-05/workstation.2…
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Meeting summary
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* Rollcall (brainycmurf, 17:59:50)
* present: Tom (secr), Michael, Jens, Matthias, Allan, Neal, Chris,
Kalev, Owen, (brainycmurf, 17:59:51)
* regrets: Langdon (brainycmurf, 17:59:51)
* present guests: Luna Jernberg(bittin), Zac (brainycmurf, 17:59:51)
* Approval of September 28 minutes (brainycmurf, 17:59:51)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-09-28/workstation.2…
(brainycmurf, 17:59:51)
* AGREED: Approved (brainycmurf, 17:59:54)
* Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (brainycmurf, 17:59:56)
* Fedora 35 final freeze and blockers (brainycmurf, 18:00:00)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist
(brainycmurf, 18:00:09)
* Kalev got Nvidia card and made the Fedora Flatpak runtime to work
with the FreeDesktop Flatpak runtime extension that contains the
Nvidia drivers and everything works. (brainycmurf, 18:00:11)
* Michael got his microphone working and was really happy about it :)
(brainycmurf, 18:00:14)
* GNOME 42 will switch from Gedit to GNOME Text Editor (brainycmurf,
18:00:16)
* LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-text-editor
(brainycmurf, 18:00:18)
* Supporting status notifiers in Fedora Workstation by default
(brainycmurf, 18:00:20)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/246 (brainycmurf,
18:00:22)
* LINK:
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/can-backgrounded-apps-show-an-indication/17…
(brainycmurf, 18:00:34)
* Open Floor (brainycmurf, 18:00:54)
Meeting ended at 18:00:58 UTC.
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* zodbot (7)
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* Neal (0)
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