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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-10-19)
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Meeting started by brainycmurf at 16:23:11 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-10-19/workstation.2…
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Meeting summary
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* Rollcall (brainycmurf, 16:23:28)
* present: Tom, Chris, Michael, Matthias, Neal, Owen, Allan, Kalev
(brainycmurf, 16:23:29)
* regrets: (brainycmurf, 16:23:29)
* present guests: fborges (brainycmurf, 16:23:29)
* Approval of October 12 minutes (brainycmurf, 16:23:29)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-10-12-…
(brainycmurf, 16:23:29)
* AGREED: No objections - agreed (brainycmurf, 16:23:31)
* Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (brainycmurf, 16:23:33)
* Allan: New working group landing page on docs site
(https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/workstation-working-group/ )
(brainycmurf, 16:23:35)
* State of Fedora Workstation 35 under freeze (brainycmurf, 16:23:38)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist
(brainycmurf, 16:23:40)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001837 still an
issue. Have had multiple rounds of fixes and testing. Owen still
helping out here, but thinks we have an initial working solution.
(brainycmurf, 16:23:42)
* Fedora Workstation release schedule / check list (brainycmurf,
16:23:47)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/250 (brainycmurf,
16:23:51)
* Please check over the list and suggest necessary additions (Tomas
will ask Adam Williamson to review) (brainycmurf, 16:23:53)
* Tomas asks how it should be tracked: file issues in pagure, shared
google calendar, Fedora schedule page. Last option is likely best,
but how do we track the actionable? Neal says that could use
milestones in Pagure, possibly, but we should see how the calendar
looks first so we have a concrete idea. Tomas - should be
responsibility of workstation chair. (brainycmurf, 16:23:56)
* Fedora 36 chair (brainycmurf, 16:24:01)
* Allan volunteers - may need to delegate topics where he has a
contrarian view or that are highly technical. (brainycmurf,
16:24:03)
* AGREED: Allan will be the chair for the Fedora 36 cycle
(brainycmurf, 16:24:06)
* AGREED: Chris will be the vice/backup chair for the cycle
(brainycmurf, 16:24:08)
* Supporting status notifiers in Fedora Workstation by default
(brainycmurf, 16:24:10)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/246 (brainycmurf,
16:24:12)
* Hans de Goede (co-maintainer of current extensions) feels it would
be suitable for inclusion as is (brainycmurf, 16:24:14)
* Allan has been doing research - trying out different implementations
on Linux, looking what Mac/Windows do. Will talk to peers at
Canonical, etc. Asks about whether this is a) something that we are
including purely for compatibility with other platforms b) something
that we want to recommend in other circumstances. (brainycmurf,
16:24:17)
* question raised whether we should enable extension by default now in
rawhide - Allan would like to have some time for design and
discussion - and does not thing that we should enable it if it has
xembed support that is broken for apps like dropbox and hexchat.
(Thought is that probably if we don't have xembed enabled, dropbox
will work via app-indicators.) (brainycmurf, 16:24:23)
* Neal suggests that if you install the RPM, it should be turned on by
default without an additional step. people were generally OK with
this. (brainycmurf, 16:24:28)
* ACTION: Neal will look into what that involves (brainycmurf,
16:24:31)
Meeting ended at 16:26:56 UTC.
Action Items
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* Neal will look into what that involves
Action Items, by person
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* Neal
* Neal will look into what that involves
* **UNASSIGNED**
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Notification time stamped 2021-10-19 16:13:50 UTC
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#ansible-docs: Documentation Working Group aka DaWGs
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Meeting started by samccann at 15:01:31 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* opening chatter (samccann, 15:01:37)
* agenda at
https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/579#issuecomment-945632120
(samccann, 15:05:34)
* action item review (samccann, 15:05:45)
* ACTION: ariordan to reword boilerplate text on collection module
page to something like You may already have this collection
installed if you are using the ansible package. To check, run
ansible-galaxy collection list. If it is not installed, you can
install it with: (samccann, 15:21:32)
* Felixfontein's items (samccann, 15:24:13)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/319
(samccann, 15:25:41)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/320
(samccann, 15:32:33)
* LINK:
https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/319#issuecomment-946844…
- comment added (acozine, 15:33:42)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/296
(samccann, 15:43:56)
* consensus is the alternating row colors is great but some people
miss the border lines. (samccann, 15:59:12)
* to test this locally - pip install
https://github.com/bmillemathias/antsibull/archive/borderless-module-option…
(samccann, 15:59:26)
* ACTION: samccann to try the border shading PR locally and on jenkins
so we can test with multiple browsers, on phones/tablets etc
(samccann, 15:59:54)
* OpenFloor (samccann, 16:00:56)
Meeting ended at 16:13:50 UTC.
Action Items
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* ariordan to reword boilerplate text on collection module page to
something like You may already have this collection installed if you
are using the ansible package. To check, run ansible-galaxy collection
list. If it is not installed, you can install it with:
* samccann to try the border shading PR locally and on jenkins so we can
test with multiple browsers, on phones/tablets etc
Action Items, by person
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* ariordan
* ariordan to reword boilerplate text on collection module page to
something like You may already have this collection installed if you
are using the ansible package. To check, run ansible-galaxy
collection list. If it is not installed, you can install it with:
* samccann
* samccann to try the border shading PR locally and on jenkins so we
can test with multiple browsers, on phones/tablets etc
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* ariordan (9)
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Notification time stamped 2021-10-18 18:05:57 UTC
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#fedora-blocker-review: F35-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:37 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:44)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:09:39)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:09:44)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:09:47)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:09:51)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:09:54)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:09:58)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:10:00)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:03)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:06)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:11)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:10:37)
* 3 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:41)
* 7 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:44)
* 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:48)
* 6 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:52)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:11:05)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:11:11)
* (2012758) clevis - thread 'main' panicked at 'called `Option::unwrap()
(adamw, 16:11:17)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012758 (adamw,
16:11:19)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/543 (adamw,
16:11:22)
* Proposed Blocker, clevis-pin-tpm2, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:11:24)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,0,-0) (+bcotton, +geraldosimiao,
+mattdm, +lruzicka) (adamw, 16:11:31)
* we'll table this for a bit to see if we can get more info from
pbrobinson before voting (adamw, 16:15:50)
* (2010058) F34/F35 5.14 kernels will not boot on AWS EC2 t2.small /
c4.large / m4.large instances (adamw, 16:16:05)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2010058 (adamw,
16:16:15)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/549 (adamw,
16:16:19)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (adamw, 16:16:22)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+4,0,-0) (+adamwill, +bcotton,
+mattdm, +lruzicka) (adamw, 16:16:26)
* AGREED: 2010058 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException
(Final) - on current understanding this does not violate the
criterion, as we do have at least one working instance type per arch
(which is all the criterion requires). But it's clearly a big
problem worth fixing for release (and we intend to do so) (adamw,
16:24:57)
* (2011928) Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs
(adamw, 16:25:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928 (adamw,
16:25:09)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/525 (adamw,
16:25:12)
* Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 16:25:17)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+bcotton) (adamw, 16:25:19)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928#c36 throws
the cat among the pigeons a bit (adamw, 16:26:52)
* AGREED: 2011928 - punt (delay decision) on blocker,
AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - though it's very late, we're still
actively researching this and can't be sure yet if it needs to block
the release. many folks are working on it actively and we hope for
developments soon. We agree it's at least serious enough to grant a
freeze exception in any case. (adamw, 16:42:20)
* Proposed Final freeze exceptions (adamw, 16:43:15)
* (2014421) Include the latest build that fixes issues on GNOME 41
(adamw, 16:43:20)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2014421 (adamw,
16:43:25)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/550 (adamw,
16:43:27)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-shell-extension-dash-to-dock,
ON_QA (adamw, 16:43:31)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+1,0,-1) (+lruzicka, -kparal)
(adamw, 16:43:34)
* AGREED: 2014421 - RejectedFreezeException (Final) - as this
extension is not on the media, there's no real need for a freeze
exception here, a 0-day update achieves the same goal. (adamw,
17:00:09)
* (2012863) Gnome Software does not refresh after installation from RPM.
(adamw, 17:00:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012863 (adamw,
17:00:40)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/530 (adamw,
17:00:44)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 17:00:47)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+3,1,-0) (+catanzaro, +bcotton,
+geraldosimiao, kparal) (adamw, 17:00:52)
* AGREED: 2012863 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - we accept this
as there is a practical bug here it'd be nice to fix (can't remove a
package after installing it unless you restart Software), but we
want to be very sure the fix is safe before we actually pull it in
(adamw, 17:21:38)
* (1990584) F35FailsToInstall: rust-matrixmultiply+thread-tree-devel,
rust-matrixmultiply+threading-devel (adamw, 17:21:51)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1990584 (adamw,
17:21:55)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/554 (adamw,
17:21:58)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, rust-matrixmultiply, MODIFIED, depends
on other bugs (adamw, 17:22:01)
* AGREED: 1990584 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - no harm fixing
an FTI issue so the frozen tree is good and upgrades work until the
release day (adamw, 17:30:36)
* Accepted Final blockers (adamw, 17:32:39)
* (2011291) Discover shows a misleading state of Flatpak repos, can't
delete disabled repos (adamw, 17:35:55)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011291 (adamw,
17:35:58)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/512 (adamw,
17:36:02)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:36:05)
* we have fixes for these as of this morning. I have confirmed the
first "misleading state" fix, the "can't delete disabled" fix showed
up during the meeting and I haven't tested it yet, but it should be
good (adamw, 17:36:41)
* (2011333) Toggling repo in Discover doesn't redraw the checkbox,
confusing users (adamw, 17:36:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011333 (adamw,
17:37:00)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/517 (adamw,
17:37:03)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:37:07)
* we also now have a fix for this, I have confirmed that it works.
I'll submit updates later today (adamw, 17:37:28)
* (2011322) Discover doesn't seem to find any RPM packages, neither
locally installed nor in RPM repos (but just under en_US locale)
(adamw, 17:37:41)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011322 (adamw,
17:37:44)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/515 (adamw,
17:37:46)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-discover, NEW (adamw, 17:37:50)
* this one is outstanding, but at least we worked out the trigger (bug
only happens in US locale, for some reason). KDE devs are actively
helping us look into this one now, we hope to try and get somewhere
with it today. (adamw, 17:38:45)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 17:49:16)
* (2012758) clevis - thread 'main' panicked at 'called `Option::unwrap()
(adamw, 17:49:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012758 (adamw,
17:49:30)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/543 (adamw,
17:49:33)
* Proposed Blocker, clevis-pin-tpm2, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:49:36)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+4,0,-0) (+bcotton, +geraldosimiao,
+mattdm, +lruzicka) (adamw, 17:49:40)
* AGREED: 2012758 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - we accept this as a
blocker on the basis that it violates "When configured on hardware
with a Trusted Platform Module (TPM), it must be possible for the
Clevis utility to automatically decrypt any encrypted partitions on
boot without any user intervention" in enough cases. If further
information suggests that's not the case, we may change the decision
(adamw, 17:54:11)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:54:14)
Meeting ended at 18:05:57 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* (none)
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