Re: FAmNA: SELF Brainstorming Meeting on April 15
by inode0
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#fedora-meeting: SELF planning meeting
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Meeting started by rbergeron at 23:03:19 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-15/self_planning_...
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Meeting summary
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* Agenda and who's here (rbergeron, 23:03:54)
* Idea List (inode0, 23:06:19)
* IDEA: HOT DOG PARTY (rbergeron, 23:07:00)
* IDEA: Hot Dog Cart - related to HOT DOG PARTY (inode0, 23:07:25)
* IDEA: Collect Food (probably not Hot Dogs) for local food pantry
(inode0, 23:08:18)
* IDEA: Raffle of some sort in general or in connection to the food
drive (inode0, 23:08:53)
* IDEA: DO NOT GIVE AWAY AN IPAD (rbergeron, 23:09:22)
* IDEA: build your own hot dog (beefy miracle) with a slew of toppings
and name it (could win prize for best names/topping combos) at party
(graphite6, 23:09:26)
* IDEA: beefy miracle tattoos or stickers (rbergeron, 23:10:59)
* IDEA: beefy miracle banner for the booth (inode0, 23:11:24)
* IDEA: Hot Dog Cannon (inode0, 23:12:13)
* IDEA: drink cosi's (things that keep bottles cold) - if do a hot dog
party/cart/BBQ type thing (graphite6, 23:12:36)
* IDEA: get the wienermobile to show up (rbergeron, 23:13:41)
* LINK: http://www.myheinz.com (rbergeron, 23:18:24)
* IDEA: customized bottles of heinz mustard (custom labels)
(rbergeron, 23:18:36)
* IDEA: day one, give away packets of ketchup, day two give away
packets of mustard, day three, if you have both ketchup and mustard,
you get a free beefy miracle! (herlo, 23:19:10)
* IDEA: hot dog stress relievers (hand squeezers) (rbergeron,
23:21:04)
* LINK:
http://www.motivators.com/Promotional-Custom-HotdogStressBall-11593.html
(rbergeron, 23:21:39)
* IDEA: if do hot dog party, provide some lawn games for people to
play? (graphite6, 23:24:29)
* Hot Dog Party (inode0, 23:26:31)
* LINK: http://www.loavesandfishes.org/ (inode0, 23:32:15)
* AGREED: HOT DOG PARTY (inode0, 23:39:04)
* ACTION: rbergeron to talk to SELF folks, possibly via ruth, to
expore all options for Dog Serving (rbergeron, 23:43:18)
* AGREED: try to have a food drive to support a local food pantry in
Charlotte (inode0, 23:46:45)
* additional swag (rbergeron, 23:50:05)
* additional swag could also be "exchange a can for $swag" (or
exchange for a ticket for $bigswag) (rbergeron, 23:50:30)
* wienermobile (inode0, 00:09:16)
* AGREED: Beefy Miracle Buttons (inode0, 00:18:45)
Meeting ended at 00:19:28 UTC.
Action Items
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* rbergeron to talk to SELF folks, possibly via ruth, to expore all
options for Dog Serving
Action Items, by person
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* rbergeron
* rbergeron to talk to SELF folks, possibly via ruth, to expore all
options for Dog Serving
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* rbergeron (122)
* inode0 (75)
* graphite6 (38)
* award3535 (27)
* herlo (24)
* zodbot (4)
John
12 years
Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-04-12)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-04-12)
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Meeting started by nirik at 20:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-12/infrastructure...
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Meeting summary
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* Robot Roll Call (nirik, 20:00:01)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 20:02:52)
* two factor auth status (nirik, 20:04:27)
* Staging re-work status (nirik, 20:08:21)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 20:08:53)
* LINK: http://gitorious.org/sticky-notes/sticky-notes/ (nirik,
20:10:47)
* LINK: http://paste.kde.org/ (nirik, 20:11:07)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 20:27:37)
* Open Floor (nirik, 20:32:44)
Meeting ended at 20:37:47 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (91)
* mdomsch (29)
* herlo (15)
* smooge (9)
* zodbot (8)
* skvidal (7)
* CodeBlock (5)
* nb (4)
* abadger1999 (4)
* athmane (3)
* wolfkit (3)
* lmacken (2)
* ianweller (1)
* threebean (1)
* adrianhannah (1)
* kwame (1)
* ricky (0)
* dgilmore (0)
* Codeblock (0)
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20:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-04-12)
20:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr 12 20:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
20:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
20:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
20:00:01 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call
20:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal Codeblock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean
20:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: Codeblock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean
20:00:07 * skvidal is here
20:00:25 * adrianhannah here
20:00:28 * lmacken
20:00:30 * abadger1999 here
20:00:31 * athmane is around
20:00:33 * mdomsch
20:00:36 * kwame is here o/
20:00:52 * CodeBlock here
20:01:09 * wolfkit is here
20:01:17 * nirik waits another minute for folks to wander in
20:02:12 * herlo is here
20:02:48 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and dive in...
20:02:52 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
20:02:53 <nirik>
20:02:53 <nirik> If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices
20:02:53 <nirik> would like to ask general questions, they can do so now. anyone?
20:03:33 <smooge> is here.
20:03:59 <nirik> I'll note there's at least one apprentice ticket waiting for me to comment. I'm going to try and get to it in the next few days...
20:04:25 <nirik> ok, moving along then...
20:04:27 <nirik> #topic two factor auth status
20:04:31 <nirik> any news here?
20:05:09 <skvidal> not much change
20:05:18 <skvidal> mricon is working on radius support for somethign for them for cisco vpn
20:05:24 <wolfkit> I've been quite busy and the latest rawhide grub2-efi / kernel updates have been playing up on my laptop so haven't been able to hack on it
20:05:33 <nirik> ok.
20:05:43 <nirik> anything we can do to help move it along?
20:06:09 <skvidal> I just need some time to sit down and focus on it, I suspect
20:06:21 <herlo> where are we stuck?
20:06:24 <nirik> ok. I'd be happy to help too.. .would love to get it going.
20:06:26 <skvidal> we're not stuck
20:06:32 * herlo hasn't been able to help in a while, wants to help again
20:06:37 <skvidal> there aren't any roadblocks afaik
20:06:42 <skvidal> it's more just integrate + test
20:06:42 <wolfkit> as do I, time seems to be my most shrinking resource, heh
20:06:42 <herlo> k
20:06:52 <nirik> wolfkit: always the way I fear. ;)
20:07:13 <nirik> ok, lets try and move it forward in the next week, revisit next meeting.
20:08:21 <nirik> #topic Staging re-work status
20:08:28 <nirik> still waiting on freeze on this one...
20:08:41 <nirik> but the happy news is that we have a beta and freeze is over next week. :)
20:08:53 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
20:09:05 <nirik> any application news?
20:09:21 <CodeBlock> dpsearch is evil. That is all ;) -- I have emailed daMaestro asking for help, waiting for response.
20:09:31 <nirik> CodeBlock: ok, thanks.
20:09:53 <nirik> Oh, I have a bit of news on paste... I'm looking at sticky-notes as a possibly fpaste.org replacement server.
20:10:09 <nirik> it might work out and let us take over fpaste.org...
20:10:20 <ianweller> nirik: sticky-notes?
20:10:30 <nirik> It's php, but it has an upstream and they sound like they might be responsive.
20:10:47 <nirik> http://gitorious.org/sticky-notes/sticky-notes/
20:11:06 <nirik> kde uses it.
20:11:07 <nirik> http://paste.kde.org/
20:11:31 <CodeBlock> nirik: is there a CLI app for it? I could look at hacking one up if needed
20:11:32 <herlo> it looks pretty good
20:11:41 <nirik> pastebinit can talk to it apparently.
20:11:44 <nirik> (already in fedora)
20:11:56 <herlo> CodeBlock: the plan there was to maybe modify fpaste to take a configuration file
20:11:56 <smooge> cool
20:12:00 <herlo> nirik: good news!
20:12:13 * herlo thinks that's better anyway
20:12:19 <nirik> so, possibly we could work something with fpaste calling that or have pastebinit ship a fpaste wrapper or something.
20:12:26 <herlo> yeah
20:12:29 <herlo> easy to do
20:12:46 <nirik> pastebinit already defaults to fpaste.org in fedora too.
20:13:03 <herlo> we'll have to change something
20:13:14 <nirik> yeah.
20:13:19 <herlo> but we could address that later
20:13:22 <nirik> can burn that bridge when we come to it...
20:13:40 <nirik> abadger1999 / threebean / pingou / lmacken: any other app news from this week/upcoming?
20:13:48 <abadger1999> nothing upcoming
20:14:04 <threebean> still working on packaging for the message bus
20:14:23 * mdomsch has been hacking MM late at night
20:14:40 <nirik> mdomsch: oh, did you see we had another issue with mirrorlist_server last night...
20:14:42 <mdomsch> v1.4 in progress again, mostly works, needs more testing
20:14:46 <mdomsch> nirik: no...
20:14:47 * athmane reported two vuls to sticky-notes (see merge request), will check the admin console this weekend
20:15:07 <mdomsch> nirik: what now?
20:15:17 <nirik> mdomsch: started taking up memory and causing problems, but then we stopped it all and I tried to get some debugging and started it and it all started working again.
20:15:33 <mdomsch> ah - heisenbug
20:15:41 <nirik> I have no idea if it was a DOS or what was happening. ;( Have any debugging tips or info we can gather if it happens again?
20:15:58 <mdomsch> get a copy of /var/lib/mirrormanager/
20:16:00 <nirik> athmane: yeah, dcr226 also mailed the author a pointer to your patches. ;)
20:16:12 <nirik> mdomsch: I have one from the last issue on april 2nd...
20:16:13 <mdomsch> so we can see if there's corruption of the netblock lists or the pickle
20:16:16 <lmacken> nirik: nothing upcoming, aside from finishing up the apps.fp.o/{packages,tagger} deployment, which I haven't had any cycles for lately
20:16:32 <nirik> mdomsch: bastion:~kevin/mirorrmanager.tar.xz
20:16:39 <athmane> nirik: feel free to ping me, if you need help with the deployment
20:16:52 <nirik> rorry, mirrormanager-2012-04-02.tar.xz is the file
20:17:02 <nirik> athmane: excellent. will do.
20:17:02 <mdomsch> I did spend considerable time teaching MM how to do database schema updates for various oddities not covered by SQLObject itself
20:17:02 <nb> nirik, so are we not planning on sticking with th current fpaste-server?
20:17:15 <mdomsch> particularly adding indexes
20:17:30 <herlo> nb: it's still a possibility, but there's a ton of work that needs to be put into fpaste-server before it's ready
20:17:45 <nirik> nb: we tried, but herlo and daMaestro both thought the hacks were too gross for a clean deployment, and they also were not really wanting to be an upstream for it...
20:18:02 <nb> oh ok
20:18:03 <herlo> I wasn't aware of the amount of work it would take and it's going to take some serious amount of time to hack upon it
20:18:11 <herlo> to get it into shape
20:18:38 <nirik> mdomsch: what does mirrorlist_server do? which part? anyhow, if you could look at that dump and/or suggest things for us to collect I can do that if it happens again.
20:19:06 <mdomsch> nirik: that's the URL endpoint that yum hits
20:19:20 <nirik> ok, so it could have been some kind of DOS... ?
20:19:22 <mdomsch> and that download.fp.o URLs hit to generate the redirect
20:19:26 <mdomsch> yes, could be a DOS
20:19:33 <mdomsch> though that'd be surprising
20:19:37 * nirik can try checking logs for unusual hits.
20:19:44 <nirik> yeah, it was odd.
20:19:55 <nirik> it happened on app01 first... caused it to crash.
20:20:03 <nirik> then a few minutes later the other apps started doing it too.
20:20:18 <mdomsch> normally when it does this, it means the communication path between apache wsgi app and mirrorlist_server.py app got interrupted
20:20:32 <mdomsch> and both sides go a little nuts waiting on the other
20:20:50 <mdomsch> but yes, pls check the proxy logs for spikes
20:20:57 <nirik> will do.
20:21:06 <mdomsch> I suspect it's a bug in mirrorlist_server.py somehow
20:21:24 <nirik> yeah, I tried to change 'log_file' and 'debug' but it didn't seem to do anything. ;(
20:21:24 <abadger1999> nirik: oh I took a look at the ipnetblocks file -- it's not corrupt although it is very big.
20:21:27 <mdomsch> that doesn't log output much if at all - and it's run by supervisor
20:21:34 <nirik> yeah
20:21:42 <mdomsch> yeah, these netblock lists look sane at a glance
20:21:53 <abadger1999> Loads fine using the same code as is in mirrormanager
20:22:06 <nirik> so there goes that theory. ;(
20:22:29 <mdomsch> the pickle has a much newer timestamp
20:22:37 <mdomsch> than the netblock lists
20:23:12 <mdomsch> anyhow - not obvious...
20:23:30 <mdomsch> page me if it happens again
20:23:38 <mdomsch> ideally while it's happening
20:23:54 <mdomsch> and look at ps auxgw | grep mirror
20:24:20 <mdomsch> to see what's there. normally there are a few mirrorlist_server.py processes there, 1 master plus one for each request in process
20:24:34 <nirik> mdomsch: ok. we do have OOM dumps in logs from the kernel if it helps any?
20:24:50 <mdomsch> if there are more than say 20, and if any are in S state, that's a problem
20:25:17 <mdomsch> it might, yes
20:26:19 <nirik> ok. can get you that.
20:26:33 <nirik> ok, any more app news? or shall we move on?
20:27:37 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
20:28:34 <nirik> 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-17 - F17 Beta Freeze
20:28:34 <nirik> 2012-04-17 - F17Beta release day
20:28:34 <nirik> 2012-05-08 to 2012-05-22 - F17 Final Freeze.
20:28:34 <nirik> 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices.
20:28:34 <nirik> 2011-05-03 - gitweb-cache removal day.
20:28:35 <nirik> 2012-05-09 - Check if puppet works on f17 yet.
20:28:37 <nirik> 2012-05-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices
20:28:39 <nirik> 2012-05-22 - F17 release
20:28:44 <nirik> so beta comes out tuesday..
20:29:03 <nirik> we have our usual release tickets we will need to act on once the trees are staged.
20:29:25 <nirik> .ticket 3218
20:29:27 <zodbot> nirik: #3218 (Fedora17 Beta - Verify mirror space) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3218
20:29:29 <nirik> .ticket 3219
20:29:30 <CodeBlock> nirik: safe tavels back in time to 2011 to remove gitweb-cache ;)
20:29:31 <zodbot> nirik: #3219 (Fedora17 Beta - new website) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3219
20:29:33 <nirik> .ticket 3220
20:29:35 <zodbot> nirik: #3220 (Fedora17 Beta - release day ticket) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3220
20:29:41 <nirik> .ticket 3221
20:29:43 <zodbot> nirik: #3221 (Fedora17 Beta - verify permissions on content) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3221
20:29:49 <nirik> CodeBlock: ha. Paying attention I see...
20:29:51 * nirik fixes
20:30:31 <nirik> anything else upcoming anyone would like to note or schedule?
20:31:04 <nirik> I've added a wiki page with our private cloud plans: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_private_cloud
20:31:24 <nirik> we don't have concrete dates on it yet, but I can add them in when we have finalized hardware and such
20:32:23 <nirik> use ideas, suggestions or comments welcome on the list
20:32:44 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
20:32:50 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor?
20:33:27 <nb> not i
20:33:40 <smooge> yay release
20:33:48 <nirik> nb: oh, any news on the keyserver thing? or haven't had a chance to try yet?
20:33:49 <smooge> not i
20:33:51 <smooge> oh wait
20:34:04 <CodeBlock> my online presence will be iffy tomorrow and the weekend of April 28th. Not schedule worthy, but just noting.
20:34:12 <nb> nirik, nope, not had time yet, just got pw yesterday
20:34:25 <nirik> nb: no worries. Will be interesting to see if it works
20:34:32 <smooge> I am currently working on removing ALL mailing list aliases from redhat.com -> lists.fedoraproject.org
20:34:40 <nirik> smooge: hurray!
20:34:52 <smooge> I will then work on moving epel and some other lists over to lists.fedoraproject.org
20:35:00 <smooge> which is always fun
20:35:30 <nirik> oh, I had another thing to note: We were going to migrate hosted monday, but postponed it. We want to shake out a timeout/failover issue with the new glusterfs setup before making it live.
20:35:38 <nirik> Hopefully we can migrate that next week or so.
20:37:01 <nirik> ok, if nothing else we can call it a meeting and get back to work. ;)
20:37:17 <smooge> call it
20:37:44 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone!
20:37:47 <nirik> #endmeeting
12 years
Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2012-04-12)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2012-04-12)
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Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-12/irc-support-si...
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Meeting summary
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* init process (nirik, 17:00:01)
* Week in review (nirik, 17:01:55)
* LINK: http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
(nirik, 17:01:55)
* f17 beta out next week, expect more questions (nirik, 17:03:42)
* Tickets (nirik, 17:04:41)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 (nirik,
17:04:41)
* Request for ban removal in #fedora-social from DrManhattan (nirik,
17:04:58)
* please file a ticket with info on the request. (nirik, 17:06:49)
* if anyone sees them on-line please ask them to do so. (nirik,
17:07:01)
* Open Floor (nirik, 17:07:41)
Meeting ended at 17:18:30 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (37)
* FranciscoD (20)
* dcr226 (17)
* Sonar_Gal (8)
* EvilBob (7)
* Southern_Gentlem (4)
* zodbot (3)
* pingou (1)
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17:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-04-12)
17:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr 12 17:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
17:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
17:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
17:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
17:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process
17:00:12 <nirik> hey folks. who's around for a irc support sig meeting.
17:00:13 * Sonar_Gal passes out the bacon
17:00:42 * FranciscoD is here
17:00:47 * Sonar_Gal
17:00:56 * EvilBob
17:01:20 * dcr226 away for a couple of minutes, then be back
17:01:26 * dcr226 just so you know
17:01:29 * pingou
17:01:30 <Sonar_Gal> move it
17:01:31 * dcr226 incase you were wondering
17:01:34 <dcr226> ;-)
17:01:36 <nirik> knowing is half the battle.
17:01:53 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead.
17:01:55 <nirik> #topic Week in review
17:01:55 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
17:02:04 * FranciscoD puts on some back in black for dcr226 's entry ;)
17:02:11 <nirik> anything from the last week anyone would like to note?
17:02:39 <FranciscoD> I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary
17:02:44 <FranciscoD> which is a good thing ;)
17:03:15 <nirik> there's been more f17 questions...
17:03:24 <nirik> and with beta out next tuesday we will get more. ;)
17:03:42 <nirik> #info f17 beta out next week, expect more questions
17:03:52 * FranciscoD will have beta running over the weekend to prepare for the questions ;)
17:04:34 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will move on...
17:04:41 <nirik> #topic Tickets
17:04:41 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1
17:04:46 <nirik> we have no tickets this week
17:04:58 <nirik> #topic Request for ban removal in #fedora-social from DrManhattan
17:05:05 <nirik> this was passed to me from a 3rd party.
17:05:27 <nirik> I think we should ask them to file a ticket on this so folks not at the meeting can provide input.
17:05:55 <Sonar_Gal> +1 to the ticket
17:06:06 <EvilBob> We have the ticket system for a reason, it should be used. +1
17:06:07 <nirik> speaking for myself, also a ticket with apologies for past behavior and some promise to do better would be helpfull.
17:06:31 <nirik> if anyone has a way to contact them and tell them that it would be appreciated. I don't have an email for them...
17:06:48 <Sonar_Gal> Neither do I
17:06:49 <nirik> #info please file a ticket with info on the request.
17:07:01 <nirik> #info if anyone sees them on-line please ask them to do so.
17:07:02 <Sonar_Gal> He is banned in so many channels not easy to tell him anything
17:07:06 <nirik> right
17:07:41 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
17:07:45 <nirik> anything for open floor?
17:07:47 <EvilBob> Revisit the meeting following a ticket being failed by at least 5 days?
17:08:10 <nirik> EvilBob: not sure I follow, can you rephrase/
17:08:32 <FranciscoD> nirik: it'll be good to remind everyone of the usual: be polite, patient, help out as much as you can without getting irritated
17:08:44 <FranciscoD> we've had some really busted systems come in
17:08:53 <EvilBob> A ticket filed on Wednesday night before the meeting does not allow for enough discussion
17:09:06 <FranciscoD> i almost hit my face against a wall helping out this one person :)
17:09:19 * dcr226 hits $(user)'s face against the wall
17:09:20 <nirik> EvilBob: right. should allow for a week unless there's some urgency
17:09:22 <dcr226> FranciscoD, try that
17:09:22 <EvilBob> I would think allowing for a ticket to be open for at least 5 days would allow for enough discussion
17:09:33 <nirik> FranciscoD: yeah...
17:09:39 <FranciscoD> dcr226: that's what I'm asking you to avoid ;)
17:09:45 <nirik> I've also noticed a rise in X-Y problems...
17:09:54 * dcr226 hits FranciscoD's face against a wall, avoiding the avoidance
17:10:08 <FranciscoD> XD
17:10:22 <FranciscoD> wall cracked dcr226 :P
17:10:29 <dcr226> personally, I think we should just keep eyes open for the "feeding frenzy" effect
17:10:36 <nirik> dcr226: also agreed.
17:10:50 <dcr226> not that I can think of any specifics to hand, just generally as ops, we should keep an eye out for it developing
17:10:51 <FranciscoD> feeding frenzy = spoon feeding?
17:10:53 <nirik> if someone is being helped, try not to jump in and confuse them with multiple suggestions at the same time.
17:11:05 <dcr226> FranciscoD, no, its like what nirik describes
17:11:10 <FranciscoD> ah, I'm guilty of that one. Southern_Gentlem corrected me for it.
17:11:11 <nirik> FranciscoD: no, too many cooks... telling a user too many things and they get confused.
17:11:11 <EvilBob> FranciscoD: too many cooks
17:11:21 <FranciscoD> aye, got it
17:11:24 * dcr226 can't resist the irony
17:11:28 <dcr226> FranciscoD, too many cooks
17:11:40 <dcr226> ;-)
17:11:41 <FranciscoD> Southern_Gentlem calls it "gang banging" ...
17:11:51 <dcr226> Heh, yeah I saw thayt
17:11:55 <nirik> heh.
17:12:01 <EvilBob> ;)
17:12:14 <FranciscoD> >.<
17:12:42 * Southern_Gentlem
17:12:53 <Southern_Gentlem> i can only call them as i see them
17:12:56 <dcr226> lol
17:13:58 <Southern_Gentlem> by calling it gang banging it got the helpers attention
17:13:58 <nirik> anyhow, will close out in a minute if nothing else.
17:14:26 <Sonar_Gal> Southern_Gentlem, true
17:14:31 <Sonar_Gal> wow Fast meeting
17:15:33 <dcr226> Sonar_Gal, this never usuallly happens to me ;-(
17:15:33 <FranciscoD> Southern_Gentlem: you'd have my attention even if you said "one person help" :P
17:15:36 <dcr226> ;-)
17:16:44 <Southern_Gentlem> FranciscoD, i wasnt worried aobut you it was the other person as well
17:17:10 <FranciscoD> hehe, alright
17:17:17 * FranciscoD doesnt mind at all
17:17:26 <FranciscoD> as long as i dont get booted ;)
17:18:24 <nirik> anyhow, thanks for coming everyone.
17:18:30 <nirik> #endmeeting
12 years
FUDCon KL Meeting Minutes :: 2012-04-12
by Maverick
Hey folks,
Thanks for attending the FUDCon KL Planning Meeting (2012-04-12).
Following is the meeting summary;
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-12/fudcon_kl_201...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-12/fudcon_kl_201...
========================
#fudcon-planning Meeting
========================
Meeting started by KageSenshi at 14:01:28 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-12/fudcon_kl_201...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* LINK: agenda is here
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/Meeting:2012-04-12
(KageSenshi, 14:01:47)
* roll call (KageSenshi, 14:01:53)
* announcements (KageSenshi, 14:03:36)
* we've decided on the vendor for t-shirt, t-shirt price is at myr17
per unit (KageSenshi, 14:03:57)
* harish is working on the ticket and hotel (KageSenshi, 14:04:11)
* visa invitation letter have been sent to applicants who need it
through their @fedoraproject.org email .. those who have yet to get
it but need it, please buzz KageSenshi , MavJS or harish
(KageSenshi, 14:05:12)
* we also have got the rough prices for banner and swag .. designs to
be decided (KageSenshi, 14:06:14)
* review actions from last meeting (KageSenshi, 14:07:34)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-05/fudcon_kl_201...
last meeting log (KageSenshi, 14:07:46)
* eric have responded , fudpub dinner will be done at hotel sri
petaling, myr45 per head .. we're going for 50 heads max ..
(KageSenshi, 14:13:59)
* Questions/Decisions (KageSenshi, 14:14:50)
* ACTION: KageSenshi to check out what sticker design to produce for
fudcon kl from existing sticker designs .. and check up the prices
(KageSenshi, 14:21:56)
* ACTION: MavJS to poke UCTI for goodie bag (KageSenshi, 14:29:22)
* we'll be producing 170 t-shirts (KageSenshi, 14:40:52)
* lanyard will be using black background, will be producing 250 units
(KageSenshi, 14:52:31)
* remove mug souvenir from budget .. use the money for something more
useful (KageSenshi, 14:57:05)
* ACTION: KageSenshi to get invoice of t-shirt, lanyard, and badges
and get some cash from harish so that we can start producing it
(KageSenshi, 14:59:34)
* ACTION: KageSenshi to also check up price for producing stickers
(KageSenshi, 14:59:57)
* open floor (KageSenshi, 15:00:40)
* rtnpro didnt get his invitation letter for visa , he asked to send
to his gmail address instead (KageSenshi, 15:04:11)
* Madam Tan of OSCC-MAMPU want to meet up with some of us, to ask what
OSCC can help out (KageSenshi, 15:05:21)
Meeting ended at 15:09:37 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* KageSenshi to check out what sticker design to produce for fudcon kl
from existing sticker designs .. and check up the prices
* MavJS to poke UCTI for goodie bag
* KageSenshi to get invoice of t-shirt, lanyard, and badges and get some
cash from harish so that we can start producing it
* KageSenshi to also check up price for producing stickers
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* KageSenshi
* KageSenshi to check out what sticker design to produce for fudcon kl
from existing sticker designs .. and check up the prices
* KageSenshi to get invoice of t-shirt, lanyard, and badges and get
some cash from harish so that we can start producing it
* KageSenshi to also check up price for producing stickers
* MavJS
* MavJS to poke UCTI for goodie bag
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* KageSenshi (175)
* MavJS (67)
* sweemeng (29)
* udinnet (12)
* zodbot (11)
* vinz007 (9)
* kulll (9)
* FranciscoD (7)
* meng (6)
* rbergeron (5)
* jsmith (4)
--
Kind Regards,
Maverick
MavJS @ freenode.net
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mavjs
http://mavjs.github.com
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12 years
Fedora 17 Beta is declared GOLD.
by Robyn Bergeron
At today's F17 Beta Go/No-Go meeting, the Fedora 17 Beta release was
declared gold. F17 Beta will be released Tuesday, April 17, 2012.
Thanks to everyone involved for pulling this one together and
participating in the meetings, things came together well this week. :)
For those interested in the details:
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-11/f17_beta_go_...
Logs:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-11/f17_beta_go_...
Full minutes follow below.
Cheers,
-Robyn
============================================
#fedora-meeting-1: F17 Beta go no go meeting
============================================
Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:32 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-11/f17_beta_go_...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* welcome, again (rbergeron, 21:06:00)
* need clean bill of health on release blockers, testing done, etc.
(rbergeron, 21:06:45)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804216 (tflink, 21:09:00)
* AGREED: - 804216 - RejectedBlocker (beta) - This is a little nasty
but it can be worked around by installing the langpacks manually
post-install or enabling a network repo (tflink, 21:14:21)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811412 (tflink, 21:14:51)
* AGREED: - 811412 - RejectedBlocker - Respun lives from RC4.1 will be
accepted for beta. Since RC4.1 is not affected by this bug, dropping
as a blocker for F17 beta (tflink, 21:20:01)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811438 (tflink, 21:20:13)
* AGREED: - 811438 - RejectedBlocker - The oversized KDE spins were a
direct consequence of moving to livecd-creator 17.7. Since the lives
from RC4.1 are using livecd-creator 17.3, this bug does not apply to
beta and thus is not a beta blocker (tflink, 21:23:13)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810451 (tflink, 21:24:00)
* this bug has been reported to be fixed, one contrary report seems to
be talking about a different bug (tflink, 21:25:12)
* LINK:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
(tflink, 21:30:46)
* test matrices (rbergeron, 21:30:49)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC4_Desktop
(tflink, 21:35:24)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC4_Base
(tflink, 21:39:35)
* go or no go? (rbergeron, 21:41:07)
* blockers clear, matrices green (rbergeron, 21:41:36)
* AGREED: ship rc4 and 4.1, we are a go for beta on 17th (rbergeron,
21:44:05)
* ACTION: rbergeron to ship minutes / shipment notice after her child
is done at dentist (rbergeron, 21:44:29)
* ACTION: adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight
(rbergeron, 21:46:08)
* HOORAY BETA (rbergeron, 21:46:52)
Meeting ended at 21:48:46 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* rbergeron to ship minutes / shipment notice after her child is done at
dentist
* adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight
* rbergeron
* rbergeron to ship minutes / shipment notice after her child is done
at dentist
* tflink
* adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* tflink (64)
* rbergeron (59)
* adamw (47)
* Viking-Ice (11)
* brunowolff (10)
* zodbot (7)
* dgilmore (6)
* spot (5)
* nirik (4)
* jsmith (4)
* nb (3)
* jskladan (1)
* KookyMan (1)
* bodhi_zazen (1)
* gnafu (1)
* robatino (0)
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12 years
Fedora Board Meeting Minutes 2012-04-11
by Christoph Wickert
Fedora Board Phone Meeting Minutes:: 2012-04-11
When: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 @ 18:30 UTC
Where: Phone Meeting
Invitees:
* Guillermo Gomez
* Jon Stanley
* Rudi Landmann
* Rex Dieter
Attendees:
* Christoph Wickert
* David Nalley
* Robyn Bergeron
* Peter Robinson
* Toshio Kuratomi
* Jaroslav Reznik (on Gobby only today)
* Jon Stanley (showed up a little later)
Regrets:
* none
Today's lucky secretary: Christoph Wickert
Today's goal reporting folks: Rudi Landmann, Rex Dieter
=======================================
* Announcements
none
* Quick updates on Rudi/Rex board member goals
none of them was present in the meeting
* Updates on trademark stuff
* Tickets/Actual Meat of Agenda
#117 Fedora on Launchpad.net: Page cannot be removed for technical
reasons but we can change the text. Toshio might be able to contact
somebody to update it once we provide something.
#95 Board's position on spins: Add Adam to CC and have him update the
ticket in order to figure out which questions still persist and need to
be addressed.
#102 Fedora QA as a sub-project: QA still needs to discuss it.
* Open floor
Naming suggestions for F18: Although we are late (elections should be
open soon) we still need to wait for some Red Hat-internal review.
Should be finished on Monday.
* Next meeting: 2012-04-18
12 years
