Notification time stamped 2023-02-28 21:09:04 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-1: Fedora Council February 2023 Hackfest
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Meeting started by bcotton at 21:05:10 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* This is a readout of the Fedora Council’s private in-person meeting in
Frankfurt, DE 7–9 February 2023 (bcotton, 21:05:21)
* Members present: mattdm jflory7 bcotton dcantrell siddharthvipul1
sumantrom t0xic0der bookwar (bcotton, 21:05:28)
* Code of Conduct (bcotton, 21:05:32)
* AGREED: Our code of conduct is under the CC BY 4.0 license (+8,0,-0)
(bcotton, 21:05:38)
* AGREED: Marie Nordin is a member of the Code of Conduct committee
due to her role as a Code of Conduct specialist and her experience
with the Fedora community (+8,0,-0) (bcotton, 21:05:44)
* AGREED: The supplemental Code of Conduct documentation is ready for
the policy change policy process. (bcotton, 21:05:52)
* ACTION: mattdm to begin the policy change process for the Code of
Conduct supplemental documentation (bcotton, 21:05:59)
* Fedora Council Charter (bcotton, 21:06:04)
* ACTION: mattdm to add content about private meetings and time
expectations to Council docs (bcotton, 21:06:10)
* AGREED: The Fedora Community Action and Impact Coordinator (FCAIC)
is renamed to Fedora Community Architect (+8,0,-0) (bcotton,
21:06:23)
* AGREED: We are renaming “Objectives” to “Community Initiatives” to
improve clarity. (+8,0,-0) (bcotton, 21:06:24)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/council-docs/pull-request/171
(bcotton, 21:06:24)
* ACTION: mattdm to draft a Community Blog post explaining the change
in title from Objectives to Community Initiatives (e.g. why did the
Council make this decision and what does it mean for new Community
Initiatives?) (bcotton, 21:06:24)
* AGREED: We will add an executive sponsor (existing Council member)
role for Community Initiatives. (+8,0,-0) (bcotton, 21:06:31)
* We have consensus to remove the full/auxiliary member distinction.
(bcotton, 21:06:38)
* ACTION: mattdm to start the process for removing the auxiliary
member distinction (bcotton, 21:06:38)
* AGREED: We are renaming the “Diversity & Inclusion Team
Representative” role to “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Advisor”
(+8,0,-0) (bcotton, 21:06:46)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/council-docs/pull-request/168
(bcotton, 21:06:46)
* ACTION: sumantrom to draft a new opening paragraph for elected
representatives to change “he or she” to “they” and to clarify
wording to indicate that the Council is an active body (bcotton,
21:06:53)
* ACTION: dcantrell to review the Engineering representative section
for accuracy and propose necessary changes (bcotton, 21:06:58)
* Fedora tooling (bcotton, 21:07:04)
* We discussed Packit and the source-git model (bcotton, 21:07:13)
* Consensus is that we need to say “we allow source-git type
repositories” and let Packit be the implementation detail.
(bcotton, 21:07:13)
* bookwar or the Packit team will file a ticket in the Council repo
(bcotton, 21:07:13)
* We discussed GitLab. We are working with GitLab to see if Red Hat
can pay them to host an open source version for our use. (bcotton,
21:07:19)
* Using GitLab.com has issues with user namespaces and provides
non-FOSS features, which is a concern for some in the community
(bcotton, 21:07:19)
* We discussed moving more of our asynchronous communication to
Discussion. (bcotton, 21:07:40)
* The planned order of moving: (bcotton, 21:07:41)
* 1. Change proposals/discussion (bcotton, 21:07:41)
* 2. FESCo tickets (bcotton, 21:07:41)
* 3. Introductions (bcotton, 21:07:53)
* 4. Packaging (bcotton, 21:07:54)
* 5. Automated messages (bcotton, 21:07:54)
* ACTION: mattdm to propose moving Change proposals to Discussion
(bcotton, 21:07:54)
* AGREED: We will ask Fedora Infrastructure to stop creating new
mailing lists (+7,0,-0) (bcotton, 21:07:54)
* ACTION: sumantrom to generate a list of mailing lists, including
usage categorization (e.g. announcements, discussion, etc)
(bcotton, 21:07:54)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/434 (bcotton,
21:07:54)
* ACTION: mattdm to create a “Council scratchpad” workflow category in
docs (bcotton, 21:08:08)
* AGREED: We will retire AskNot in favor of a static page that’s
easier to keep up-to-date (+7,1,0) (bcotton, 21:08:12)
* ACTION: bcotton to create a PR for the static page (bcotton,
21:08:13)
* Prior to acting on this, the Docs team independently decided to
adopt the application (bcotton, 21:08:13)
* AGREED: We will mark Easyfix as deprecated with a planned shutoff
date to coincide with the F38 release (+8,0,-0) (bcotton, 21:08:17)
* ACTION: t0xic0der to request deprecation notice for Easyfix
(bcotton, 21:08:17)
* Council meetings (bcotton, 21:08:22)
* AGREED: We will move to a weekly half hour meeting model (+8,0,0)
(bcotton, 21:08:30)
* ACTION: bcotton to send out a WhenIsGood (bcotton, 21:08:30)
* AGREED: We will keep the video meetings on the current schedule
(+8,0,0) (bcotton, 21:08:36)
* Strategic Plan (bcotton, 21:08:40)
* Plan timeline (bcotton, 21:08:54)
* Matthew’s goal is to have 1–2 posts a week on Discussion about the
impacts in the strategy through April, at which point the Council
will vote on the strategy. (bcotton, 21:08:54)
* In May–June, we want to find two people per outcome: 1 person to
lead, 1 Council member as executive sponsor (bcotton, 21:08:55)
* Finalize plan for presentation at Flock in early August (bcotton,
21:08:55)
* We spent a lot of time discussing the 18 objectives in the strategic
plan logic model (bcotton, 21:09:02)
* LINK:
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-project-strategy-2028-februar…
(bcotton, 21:09:02)
Meeting ended at 21:09:04 UTC.
Action Items
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* mattdm to begin the policy change process for the Code of Conduct
supplemental documentation
* mattdm to add content about private meetings and time expectations to
Council docs
* mattdm to draft a Community Blog post explaining the change in title
from Objectives to Community Initiatives (e.g. why did the Council
make this decision and what does it mean for new Community
Initiatives?)
* mattdm to start the process for removing the auxiliary member
distinction
* sumantrom to draft a new opening paragraph for elected representatives
to change “he or she” to “they” and to clarify wording to indicate
that the Council is an active body
* dcantrell to review the Engineering representative section for
accuracy and propose necessary changes
* mattdm to propose moving Change proposals to Discussion
* sumantrom to generate a list of mailing lists, including usage
categorization (e.g. announcements, discussion, etc)
* mattdm to create a “Council scratchpad” workflow category in docs
* bcotton to create a PR for the static page
* t0xic0der to request deprecation notice for Easyfix
* bcotton to send out a WhenIsGood
Action Items, by person
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* bcotton
* bcotton to create a PR for the static page
* bcotton to send out a WhenIsGood
* **UNASSIGNED**
* mattdm to begin the policy change process for the Code of Conduct
supplemental documentation
* mattdm to add content about private meetings and time expectations
to Council docs
* mattdm to draft a Community Blog post explaining the change in title
from Objectives to Community Initiatives (e.g. why did the Council
make this decision and what does it mean for new Community
Initiatives?)
* mattdm to start the process for removing the auxiliary member
distinction
* sumantrom to draft a new opening paragraph for elected
representatives to change “he or she” to “they” and to clarify
wording to indicate that the Council is an active body
* dcantrell to review the Engineering representative section for
accuracy and propose necessary changes
* mattdm to propose moving Change proposals to Discussion
* sumantrom to generate a list of mailing lists, including usage
categorization (e.g. announcements, discussion, etc)
* mattdm to create a “Council scratchpad” workflow category in docs
* t0xic0der to request deprecation notice for Easyfix
People Present (lines said)
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* bcotton (57)
* zodbot (6)
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Notification time stamped 2023-02-28 18:45:55 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2023-02-28)
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Meeting started by sgallagh at 17:00:34 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-02-28/fesco.2023-02-2…
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Meeting summary
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* init process (sgallagh, 17:00:34)
* #2960 FESCo blocker bug: Popular third-party RPMs fail to
install/update/remove in F38 due to security policies verification
(sgallagh, 17:04:09)
* AGREED: FESCo agrees to block Beta for this issue. In order to
unblock, RPM must accept SHA-1 hashes and DSA keys for Fedora 38,
ideally with a deprecation warning that it will be disabled in F39.
FESCo strongly advises against allowing these algorithms elsewhere,
but will accept that for F38 if it's the only achievable, timely
solution. (+8, 0, -0) (sgallagh, 17:33:23)
* #2951 Proposal: policy for resubmitting rejected proposals (sgallagh,
17:33:46)
* #2956 Does FESCo want to implement the policy for retiring packages
(sgallagh, 18:10:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2173769 (nirik,
18:13:54)
* AGREED: In the current environment, FESCo feels that the CVE bug
process is insufficient to support implementing this policy. This
can be revisited in the future if conditions improve. (+6, 0, -0)
(sgallagh, 18:23:40)
* #2958 F38 incomplete changes: 100% complete deadline (sgallagh,
18:24:05)
* : Feature Incomplete: LLVM 16 (sgallagh, 18:26:38)
* Feature Incomplete: Unified Kernel Support (Phase 1) (sgallagh,
18:28:20)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2159490#c2 has the
status as of a few weeks ago (nirik, 18:29:33)
* Feature Incomplete: RPM Macros for Build Flags (sgallagh, 18:31:30)
* Open Floor (sgallagh, 18:36:28)
* Next Week's Chair (sgallagh, 18:36:38)
* ACTION: zbyszek to chair 2023-03-07 meeting (sgallagh, 18:41:12)
* Open Floor (sgallagh, 18:41:13)
Meeting ended at 18:45:55 UTC.
Action Items
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* zbyszek to chair 2023-03-07 meeting
Action Items, by person
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* zbyszek
* zbyszek to chair 2023-03-07 meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* sgallagh (130)
* mhroncok (81)
* nirik (76)
* zbyszek (57)
* Eighth_Doctor (38)
* decathorpe (35)
* bcotton (27)
* zodbot (24)
* dcantrell (18)
* salimma (7)
* music[m] (7)
* mhayden (3)
* smooge (2)
* music (0)
* Conan_Kudo (0)
* Pharaoh_Atem (0)
* Son_Goku (0)
* King_InuYasha (0)
* Sir_Gallantmon (0)
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Notification time stamped 2023-02-28 13:59:50 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora Mindshare Committee meeting - 2023-02-28
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Meeting started by jwf at 13:08:38 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-02-28/mindshare.2023-…
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Meeting summary
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* About the Mindshare Committee:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/ (jwf,
13:08:50)
* Meeting structure & agenda (jwf, 13:09:11)
* === 1. Hellos & welcome (~5 minutes) === (jwf, 13:09:12)
* === 2. Committee announcements & team read-outs (~5-10 minutes) ===
(jwf, 13:09:17)
* === 3. Ticket-driven review & discussion (remaining time) === (jwf,
13:09:21)
* === 4. Open floor (final 5 minutes) === (jwf, 13:09:22)
* Hellos & welcome (jwf, 13:09:29)
* Committee announcements & team read-outs (jwf, 13:11:32)
* We have a new meeting day/time poll out. Please add your preferred
times for a Mindshare meeting by this Friday, 3 March. (jwf,
13:12:07)
* LINK: https://whenisgood.net/fedora/mindshare/2023-team-meet (jwf,
13:12:08)
* After three long years, the Fedora community returned to FOSDEM in
Brussels, Belgium this year. An event report is underway to
summarize our presence and what happened for Fedora. Stay tuned for
details. (jwf, 13:12:46)
* Ticket review (jwf, 13:16:26)
* LINK: https://gitlab.com/fedora/mindshare/home/-/issues (jwf,
13:16:28)
* Issue #13: Sponsorship request: Linux App Summit 2023, Brno CZ (jwf,
13:19:10)
* LINK: https://gitlab.com/fedora/mindshare/home/-/issues/13 (jwf,
13:19:14)
* How are Fedora community members participating? Are there accepted
Fedora speakers? What criteria should we use to decide our
participation in this event? What local connections do we have?
(jwf, 13:31:36)
* Tying our event presences and sponsorships to areas of strategic
focus for Fedora (e.g. #Strategy2028) should be an increasingly
important part of selection criteria for events. This is an area
where Mindshare could innovate for our community as in-person events
come back into focus after the last three years. (jwf, 13:39:15)
* davdunc gives a pseudo example of a container summit where Podman
Desktop plays an important role either in a booth or in an accepted
session. (jwf, 13:39:28)
* ACTION: jwf Follow-up 1:1 with other Mindshare members for a vote on
this specific ticket (jwf, 13:40:00)
* Issue #8: Updating process for funding eligibility (jwf, 13:40:42)
* LINK: https://gitlab.com/fedora/mindshare/home/-/issues/8 (jwf,
13:40:47)
* Open floor (jwf, 13:56:59)
Meeting ended at 13:59:49 UTC.
Action Items
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* jwf Follow-up 1:1 with other Mindshare members for a vote on this
specific ticket
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jwf
* jwf Follow-up 1:1 with other Mindshare members for a vote on this
specific ticket
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* davdunc[m (26)
* bt0 (16)
* zodbot (15)
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* davdunc (0)
* Onuralp (0)
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