Test_Day namespace

[Karsten Wade]

I don't recall a discussion of the [[Test_Day:]] namespace, so I'm a
bit unclear how it works.  Someone pointed out a vandalized page
today, and below is the discussion I had with Adam.

Ideas for solutions here?  I don't like the idea of an endless supply
of vandalizeable pages, esp. without a regular group patrolling the
edits for vandalism.

10:23 < quaid> heffer pointd this out - 
      	      
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Test_Day:2009-07-21_Fit_and_F...
10:23 < quaid> adamw: do you have a policy of moving [[Test_Day:]]
      	       pages to a requires-auth-to-write after the test day is done?
10:24 < quaid> that's how the [[FUDCon:]] space is managed
10:24 < adamw> quaid: no, not yet...how do you work that?
10:24 < quaid> ideally only one or two fudcon pages are write-by-all,
      	       we watch and revert spam as we go, then when the event
      	       is done, we move it to [[FUDCon/]]
10:24 < quaid> adamw: you should be able to just move the page back to
      	       the Main namespace by doing a rename (move) and taking
      	       out the colon
10:25 < quaid> as long as the categories remains the same, the
      	       redirect is automatically made for you
10:25 < adamw> mhhh...i don't like doing a bunch of renames
10:25 < quaid> normally, no
10:25 < adamw> yeah i know but you can wind up with nested redirects
      	       and stuff
10:25 < quaid> there is a special page for catching double-redirects
10:26 < adamw> there wouldn't be a fix in this case
10:26 < adamw> well, there would, but it'd require manual updating of
      	       the links...bah. hmm.
10:26 < quaid> really? a redirect wouldn't work?
10:26 < adamw> (we need to be able to have a page name with just the
      	       date that re-directs to the real page)
10:26 < quaid> hmm
10:26 < adamw> so Test_Day:2009-07-21 needs to be 'valid' as a
      	       redirect to the final name
10:27 < quaid> makes sense ...
10:27 < adamw> that way you can write a script or whatever that can
      	       reliably point to the test day page for a specific date
10:27 < quaid> are you on the (low traffic)
      	       fedora-wiki(a)lists.fedoraproject.org list?
10:27 < adamw> er, a _given_ date
10:27 < adamw> i don't remember, i'm on lots of lists :)
10:27 < quaid> heh
10:27 < quaid> I'll bring up this situation, if you are there you'll
      	       see, or we'll tell you to come join up
10:27 < adamw> we could swing that, it's just that we'd have to adjust
      	       the redirects for the date-only pages all the time
      	       too. which would be a bit more pain.
10:28 < adamw> not sure if doing the renames or fixing the vandalism
      	       is more trouble...
10:29 < adamw> also, we do want people to be able to post results
      	       after the day is done
10:29 < quaid> ah, hmm
10:30 < adamw> there's no reason not to allow that, really. and people
      	       do go back and look over the older pages.
10:30 < quaid> it just seems that the # of vandalizeable pages
      	       increases a lot over time
10:30 < adamw> i suppose if we were going to 'lock' them off again
      	       after a specified period we'd do it at the end of the
      	       release cycle...
10:30 < adamw> yeah, i understand
10:31 < adamw> it's a shame we can't have a limited-editing mode or
      	       something, heh

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Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener
http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
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