#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ------------------------------------------------+-------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: nobody Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: new Priority: major | Component: Other Severity: Quick & Easy | Artwork Blocked By: | Keywords: | Blocking: ------------------------------------------------+-------------------------- Hey, we need a European edition of Free Media envelope for the new tool by FranciscoD. http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/fedora-freemedia-tool- version-0-2alpha/
The problem with the current Templet is that it is too big "13.5 cm x 13.5 cm," but I need max. "12.5 cm x 12.5 cm". Otherwise I have to pay more than 1.45 € for shipping.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freemedia-mailer.svgz
I already talked to FranciscoD and he asked me to creat a new ticket.
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: nobody Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: new Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Changes (by ankursinha):
* cc: ankursinha (added)
Comment:
[http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/4/49/Freemedia-mailer.svgz] is the link to the source svgz.
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Changes (by twohot):
* status: new => assigned * owner: nobody => twohot
Comment:
Geesh! Why am I seeing this just now. I'll take care of this
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+----------------------------
Comment (by ib54003):
Replying to [comment:2 twohot]:
Geesh! Why am I seeing this just now. I'll take care of this
Ok, cool ;) !
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+----------------------------
Comment (by ryanlerch):
Was this completed?
or is this one still open?
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: new Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Changes (by ryanlerch):
* status: assigned => new * owner: twohot =>
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Comment (by ib54003):
Nope still open ;)
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: new Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+----------------------------
Comment (by twohot):
Taking it again. Sorry, ... no delays this time
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Changes (by twohot):
* status: new => assigned * owner: => twohot
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+----------------------------
Comment (by twohot):
Replying to [comment:6 ib54003]:
Nope still open ;)
Hi, Please can you advise on European Standards for the OCR, Return Address, and Clear Zone areas? I think I used US standards for those. I suspect the standard is universal. If you are aware of any specifics for Europe, give me a shout. Otherwise I will default to applying the previous standard irrespective of the changing envelop size.
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+----------------------------
Comment (by ib54003):
Replying to [comment:9 twohot]:
Replying to [comment:6 ib54003]:
Nope still open ;)
Hi, Please can you advise on European Standards for the OCR, Return
Address, and Clear Zone areas? I think I used US standards for those. I suspect the standard is universal. If you are aware of any specifics for Europe, give me a shout. Otherwise I will default to applying the previous standard irrespective of the changing envelop size. [[BR]] Hey twohot,
take a look at [https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/raw- attachment/ticket/218/dp_automationsfaehige_briefsendungen_2013.pdf], just look at the pictures its German :).[[BR]] I found out that i was wrong with (12,5 cm * 12,5 cm), maybe they changed something in their rules.[[BR]]
It seams to me the cheapest way to send one Freemedia DVD is to send it as a standart letter.[[BR]] That means:[[BR]] [[BR]] national (Germany): 0,60 €[[BR]] international*: 0,75 €[[BR]] [[BR]] *For the international we need the priotity label. [https://fedorahosted.org/design- team/attachment/ticket/218/priorityaufkleber.pdf][[BR]] [[BR]] If I would use the current edition (13,5 cm x 13,5 cm):[[BR]] [[BR]] national (Germany): 1,45 €[[BR]] international: 3,45 €[[BR]] [[BR]] [[BR]] So better if we do a new one :), with the following sizes:[[BR]] [[BR]] L: 14 cm - 23,5 cm*[[BR]] B: 9 cm - 12,5 cm[[BR]] H: bis 0,5 cm[[BR]] *The length must be at least 1.4 times the width.[[BR]] Make sure that the DVD still fits in :).[[BR]] [[BR]] Thanks,[[BR]] ib54003
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+----------------------------
Comment (by twohot):
That was very informative. The attachments appear to contain all the information I need (but in German). I will compare the contents with the rules in the old one (using google translate). Stay tuned
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+----------------------------
Comment (by ib54003):
Replying to [comment:11 twohot]:
That was very informative. The attachments appear to contain all the
information I need (but in German). I will compare the contents with the rules in the old one (using google translate). Stay tuned [[BR]]
Any news ?
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+----------------------------
Comment (by ib54003):
news?
Replying to [comment:11 twohot]:
That was very informative. The attachments appear to contain all the
information I need (but in German). I will compare the contents with the rules in the old one (using google translate). Stay tuned
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+----------------------------
Comment (by twohot):
Yes
If we want this design to produce a sort of DIY envelop/mailer, then it won't fit into an A4/letter paper. With the initial design, the front and back sides of the mailer emerge on one A4 print. The rest is cutting and folding.
Would you be satisfied with an adaptation of the above for an A3 paper instead? That would work
'''Other Alternatives:'''[[BR]] (1) Create a design with the assumption that the sender is ready to cut a custom paper size that is the equivalent of two A4 papers with the width being same as an A4 and length being twice that of an A4. A legal paper size wouldn't fit (2) Create a design with the assumption that the sender is buying a ready- made plain envelope of 12.5 x 23.5cm dimension. In which case, the sender intends to print the design unto the purchased envelop.
Which is it going to be?
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+----------------------------
Comment (by gnokii):
@ib54003 can you please provide for twohot the answer, so that he can finish his work?
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+----------------------------
Comment (by ib54003):
Replying to [comment:14 twohot]:
Hey twohot,
Would you be satisfied with an adaptation of the above for an A3 paper
instead? That would work
I don't believe an A3 paper design would be the perfect solution, also most of us do not have an A3 printer ;).
(2) Create a design with the assumption that the sender is buying a
ready-made plain envelope of 12.5 x 23.5cm dimension. In which case, the sender intends to print the design unto the purchased envelop.
Yes, that might be the best! ;)
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: materials for ambassadors request | Status: assigned Priority: major | Component: Other Artwork Severity: Quick & Easy | Resolution: Keywords: triaged | Blocked By: Blocking: | ----------------------------------------------+---------------------------- Changes (by pfrields):
* keywords: => triaged
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope --------------------------------+------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: Print/Swag Design | Status: assigned Priority: medium | Severity: Quick & Easy Resolution: | Keywords: triaged Blocked By: | Blocking: --------------------------------+-------------------------
Comment (by duffy):
I just emailed twohot to see what his status on this is.
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope --------------------------------+------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: Print/Swag Design | Status: assigned Priority: medium | Severity: Quick & Easy Resolution: | Keywords: triaged Blocked By: | Blocking: --------------------------------+-------------------------
Comment (by twohot):
Okay, it finally arrives. I had to make assumptions to move forward as I couldn't lay hands on the most likely envelope for the mailer. I present a proposed mailer with the following assumptions:
1. The envelop orientation is in landscape and the cover flap is on the longer side 2. Seams at the rear side overlap by 1cm (10mm) at most. 3. There is no seam at the middle (rear side) and if there is, it doesn't obstruct printing
Adjustments can be made but I need to know my options (envelope samples). Reactions please?
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope --------------------------------+------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: Print/Swag Design | Status: assigned Priority: medium | Severity: Quick & Easy Resolution: | Keywords: triaged Blocked By: | Blocking: --------------------------------+-------------------------
Comment (by duffy):
ib54003, ankursinha - any feedback for twohot on his work? (i think it looks great!!)
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope --------------------------------+------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: Print/Swag Design | Status: assigned Priority: medium | Severity: Quick & Easy Resolution: | Keywords: triaged Blocked By: | Blocking: --------------------------------+-------------------------
Comment (by ib54003):
Replying to [comment:19 twohot]:
Okay, it finally arrives. I had to make assumptions to move forward as
I couldn't lay hands on the most likely envelope for the mailer. I present a proposed mailer with the following assumptions:
- The envelop orientation is in landscape and the cover flap is on the
longer side
- Seams at the rear side overlap by 1cm (10mm) at most.
- There is no seam at the middle (rear side) and if there is, it
doesn't obstruct printing
Adjustments can be made but I need to know my options (envelope
samples).
Reactions please?
NOTE: In the attached source file (SVG), the art is organized in
layers. Disable/enable the layers as necessary. Enjoy!
Hey twohot,
great work thats what i wanted thanks ;) , i will talk to FranciscoD to publish it with his tool. I will try to send some freemedia with the new design soon and see it fits.
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope --------------------------------+------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: Print/Swag Design | Status: closed Priority: medium | Severity: Quick & Easy Resolution: fixed | Keywords: triaged Blocked By: | Blocking: --------------------------------+------------------------- Changes (by ib54003):
* resolution: => fixed * status: assigned => closed
#218: Europe edition of Freemedia envelope --------------------------------+------------------------- Reporter: ib54003 | Owner: twohot Type: Print/Swag Design | Status: closed Priority: medium | Severity: Quick & Easy Resolution: fixed | Keywords: triaged Blocked By: | Blocking: --------------------------------+-------------------------
Comment (by ib54003):
Replying to [comment:21 ib54003]:
Replying to [comment:19 twohot]:
Okay, it finally arrives. I had to make assumptions to move forward
as I couldn't lay hands on the most likely envelope for the mailer. I present a proposed mailer with the following assumptions:
- The envelop orientation is in landscape and the cover flap is on
the longer side
- Seams at the rear side overlap by 1cm (10mm) at most.
- There is no seam at the middle (rear side) and if there is, it
doesn't obstruct printing
Adjustments can be made but I need to know my options (envelope
samples).
Reactions please?
NOTE: In the attached source file (SVG), the art is organized in
layers. Disable/enable the layers as necessary. Enjoy!
Hey twohot,
great work thats what i wanted thanks ;) , i will talk to FranciscoD to
publish it with his tool.
I will try to send some freemedia with the new design soon and see if it
fits.
ib54003
Ok so i already talked to FranciscoD and he also thinks it would be better if we try it before we publish it, so i will try to send some freemedia next week and give u a feedback. Maybe the tool needs a rewrite also... ;)
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