I realize I am late in replying - I am sorry.
I have some comments inline below, however I want to say that ordering LATAM swag is very
confusing. It seems that many people are working under the assumption that we should do
nothing until everything is perfect. Perfect is the enemy of good.
Please, let us move forward in small chunks. We cannot eat the elephant at once.
On Sat, Dec 16, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Neville A. Cross wrote:
This thread has turn out top-posting
This effort has been drived by people who has take time to ask several
time to ask for contribution on the list of needs/requests and to
provide feedback. The deadline for submitting needs/request of
swag has been postponed a couple of times.
This whole debate is stopping producing several items that are not
sensitive to language. Land yards, pens and stickers I see two cases
where language may be an issue.
If lanyards and stickers have designs, let's get them ordered. They will likely come
from different vendors so there is no shipping advantage to waiting.
The Pens are almost done (and probably from yet another vendor) but there is a final
decision needed from this group in the ticket.
My one problem with buttons is that I don't understand why we are doing three sizes.
1", 2.25" and 3". 2.25" and 3" are almost the same in my book.
Is this truly an issue?
From a language perspective, I would rather have buttons that will be worn with pride than
lost in confusion. If you're saying that your country needs language specific
buttons, let's look at the costs and if they are not too crazy, let's do them. If
you're saying you want both English and a local language (insert other combinations as
needed) I am wondering how much we have a real problem versus just a perceived one.
Cheat-cubes needs a lot of information that needs to be localized.
Otherwise why do we have localization team? Why there are efforts to
The general work been done openly in tickets and there has been low
feedback on it. Now, at the last minute it is been delayed again
instead of focus in the only item that may be questionable.
Exactly! Because these are localized they will almost always be small print runs. This
is also something which may be able to be produced quickly locally IF we can guarantee
My view is that the rest of items should go forward. Only buttons
should be considered to see if the quantity requested make sense to
order as it is. Like to check if it is enough to have bulk discount. If
making Portuguese buttons do not pass the quantity bulk discount, and
they think is fine to have in English, then Brazil can wait to be
included when it is produced.
One consideration of centralize production was to get better quality.
The quantities required for having bulk discount in the first world are
lower than in LATAM.
I think it is needed to recognize the ammount of work that has been
done by few people.
Just my two cents.
I've chosen to mostly agree with Neville, just in different words :).
Let's get this stuff ordered!
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 22:07:46 -0300
> Eduard Lucena <eduardlucena(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > -1 for Local SWAG. We are trying to produce massively to reduce costs,
> > having Portuguese, Spanish, Engilsh and others will cut the
> > initiative to produce massively in one place and send them Worldwide.
> > Br,
> > 2017-12-15 14:20 GMT-03:00 William Moreno
> > <williamjmorenor(a)fedoraproject.org
> > >:
> > > Hello Bex, looking at the Ambassadors Latam Meeting logs from today
> > > looks like we have a issue because some people want theirs swag in
> > > a neutral language (english)and this can delay the process that is
> > > already advanced, I will not force this but we have the current
> > > proposal for artwork almots aproved by desing team and do not want
> > > to make you and the people working in designs and the people
> > > reviewing those desings lost your time, so I want to ask you if you
> > > any issue about go ahead with the Production of swag for Nicragua
> > > with the current artwork, for stickets, buttons and pens I think is
> > > not a problem but can be for landyars and sheapcubes because
> > > quanties, but are you ok with this?
> > >
> > > Also adding Samuel to the list, @searchsam did you have a moment to
> > > see the last comments from @duffy in the desing team tickets?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > William
> > >
> > >
> > >
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