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#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in # fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
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Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance | Blocked By:
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My IRC nick is:
nix\
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Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this
ticket:
Conversation with people of #fedora-social that abuse me, commenting non-
related facts of my country with a answer about fedora russian and skype
and other person making remarks about that es language is "Mexican't" and
I speak "You say spinach I say Mexican't" and a non polite attitude.-
They +q mode 2 times with excuses without a real fundament. Fenris02 start
a conversation about crimes and war in my country for a example of the non
legal in my country (i was asking for legal terms of fedora russian
compiling Skype in koji).
I respond with "read plan condor", that involves CIA and my country about
crimes and war, so... +q applied to me. I mentioned nigger word in ironic
mode, because i felt the racist or no tolerant of the US soul with Latin
people, for the comment of Evilbob like '''"<EvilBob> nix\:
As long
as you don't claim to be American, we will be OK"''' WHAT IS IT?,
100%
pure racism, why I'm not american?, I'm what?, sudaca?, chicano?, What
Bob?.. Sorry but I'm american, America is a continent, United States a
country. I feel that Evilbob and fenris02 have some intolerance to the bad
english or non US people of regions like south america, arabic and black
people. Before the incident, Evilbob be offended because a user say "bro",
and he clear me in fedora-social that bro is used by a ethnicity in US (i
know that afro people), so, WHY offend you?, what is the problem of Bob
Jensen with the black people?.
Other thing, I sended a Email to fenris02, because he no allow pm or
notices, and he respond me in the fedora-social again, acussing me of say
that HE is racist, the mail is at your disposal if you wish look it. I
only seek for a explanation of the mistreat with my person and expose of
history of my country, a bad piece of the history for a question about
fedora.
Today, one night later, again, DiscordianUK +q me because he say: "I
suggest you stop the whingeing", BUT the start of the conversation is by
fenris02 in answer to my Email, so, I disturbing?, i don't think so.
Sorry for my bad english but i speak natively spanish, if no can
understand the ticket tell me and I translate with a professional
traductor in 24 hours. I want that the fact is clarified. I want help,
promote and support fedora, no support abuse of intolerant people.
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Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction:
fenris02 - EvilBob - DiscordianUK
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Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on
this feedback: More tolerance for other languages, countries and
ethnicities that no speak english properly and no teasing constantly. No
mix personal thing or Country things with Fedora or technician stuff.
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Any additional notes or logs:
Yes, i have the entire log, attach the log of #fedora-social channel and
mark with >>> the begin of the problem.
Thanks for your feedback!
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#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in # fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by nixfas):
'''I read several previous ticket, I see fenris02 and evilbob have many
reports of abuse, I believe that this is no coincidence. Please take an
action'''
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Nixfas,
No one will take any action, they don't really care about what you
think, only maintaining their positions of abuse unchecked. Feedback or
calls to change are ignored and seen as "terrorist" activity as they
feel what they have already forced into place works well.
Ultimately, when humans congregate in any numbers a few will rise and
dominate with force, coercion, or deception to maintain an imbalance of
power and protect that position with everything they have. Sadly, Fedora
is no different.
suerte...
On 08/09/2013 06:11 AM, irc-support-sig wrote:
#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in # fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by nixfas):
'''I read several previous ticket, I see fenris02 and evilbob have many
reports of abuse, I believe that this is no coincidence. Please take an
action'''
11:04 p.m.
New subject: [irc-support-sig] #156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social (was: maltreatment and abuse of power in # fedora-social)
#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Changes (by nixfas):
* cc: nixfas (added)
Comment:
Resuming:
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'''1.-''' Fenris02 and EvilBob troll me in #fedora-social.
EvilBob
commenting "Mexican't" and "Spinach" about Spanish language.
Both,
Fenris02 and EvilBob know that I'm from Argentina, South America, Spanish-
Native. They both seem agree to set the dispute to me and annoying[[BR]]
[[BR]]
'''2.-''' is the second time that Fenris02 speak about the
relationship
between "Legal" and "Law" and the military coup and crimes against
humanity in my country (Argentina) in the 70-80 years, non-related with
the original conversation (My question about legal terms of Russian Fedora
compiling Skype in rpm format and using Fedora logos) and wanting a fight
speaking about a sensitive topic that involves blood, death, history,
government, and 30.000 people missing, as if I had any connection with
that. I have none[[BR]][[BR]]
'''3.-''' In short, EvilBob comments, Fenris02 and desire to dig
into
somewhat sensitive and annoying, it is clear that they have a personal
problem with sudamerica or Spanish speakers. The Email that I send to
Fenris02 talk about '''it''', I never accused of racist or
anything
similar, the Email only indicates that both he (Fenris02) and EvilBob,
were demonstrating me, as a racist or if they had any problem with people
from sudamerica, like redneck KKK or some ultra nationalist grouping hates
everything that is not from U.S.[[BR]]
'''4.-''' '''Action or positive
changes?''''''': Educate to Fenris02 and
Evilbob that in the IRC we are all equal, and that the Fedora project
consists of people of different nationalities, countries, religious and
political ideas and are not therefore better or worse in any aspect.[[BR]]
[[BR]]
'''5.-''' Maybe I was wrong to attack fire with fire, but I let
the anger
taking me. Which does not mean they really Fenris02 actually told things
that are the fault of U.S. and when I did notice I received a +q.[[BR]]
And +q I know that +q is only 15 minutes, but is not a time of 15 minutes
what disturbs me is the injustice and the fact in itself that can annoy
me, abuse me, verbally, with partially racist comments and punish me with
+q like I was less than them or my bad. Not to live in the U.S. and born
in Argentina, sudamerica felt like a fault in #fedora-social actually. I
no have *any* trouble with any guy of Fedora.[[BR]]
I see how in sometimes, EvilBob refuses to gives support looking for
excuses to arabic people (I know for the IP number).[[BR]]
I see how Fenris02 and EvilBob abuse of a lot of users daily, is not
casual a lot of tickets commenting similar troubles.
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#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by fenris02):
I took *NO* operator action against nix\ at any point during this rant.
Not even when he spammed me via email.
Logs and records will confirm this. The operators that took action were
each time were someone else. Not me.
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#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by nixfas):
Replying to [comment:3 fenris02]:
I took *NO* operator action against nix\ at any point during this rant.
Not even when he spammed me via email.
Logs and records will confirm this. The operators that took action were
each time
were someone else. Not me.
That is right, fenris02. The operator was DiscordianUK, I know, he told
that it was him in the last +q action. The other +q I don't know, maybe
DiscordianUK or EvilBob, it is all registered in the fedbot's log [[BR]]
The mention of your nickname in the ticket is because the before mentioned
conduct about the displeasant talk that you have regarding war, crimes,
and the rest.[[BR]]
I did not spammed you, and *YOU* know it, I sent you a total of TWO
Emails, the first one trying to clarify all the trolling towards me from
you and EvilBob, and the second one commenting you about "Why you answer
via IRC a Email conversation??".[[BR]]
And this is the second time in the year that you come out with the topic
of war crimes and more sensitive stuff related with my country without any
reason and without any relation to the talk that was maintained previously
in #fedora-social.
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#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by fenris02):
WEB QUOTE:
* Spam is most often considered to be electronic junk mail or junk
newsgroup postings. Some people define spam even more generally as any
unsolicited email.
You did spam me. Twice. Unwanted, trollish, trying very hard to start
fights.
You neglected to mention above that you rely heavily upon google
translate, and your english is poor. Your own words.
IRC QUOTE:
* #fedora-social_20130809.log:[06:34:20] <nix\> fenris02: I no acusse you
of nothing.- And yes, my english is very bad and really is a pain explain
me clearly, because in Spanish i have more verbs and words than English
so, Google translate no work properly.
And again:
IRC QUOTE 2:
* #fedora-social_20130809.log:[06:37:11] <nix\> fenris02: I say that
Google translate no translate correctly works and verbs from es to en, so,
is a pain explain me with the people that only speak english. Nothing
more.
Why not just admit that you did not understand and then went on a rant
bender instead of trying to blame others?
Also note that I did not make any remarks about es language at all. I did
not make any racial remarks either. Do not blame me for what others did.
I take no part in that.
EMAIL QUOTE:
* i feel that you and Bob are a bit "redneck KKK ultra nacionalist",
hating black people (i mentioned nigger ironically) , mexicans, latin
americans, and all different to the model of "American Dad" animated
serie.
* No more, I no stand by a reply, a consistent and sincere reply, because,
i don't think that you think different that the 80% of the United States
people.
That is directly from you. Baseless accusations that have NO PART AT ALL
in private or on IRC anywhere.
Do everyone a favour. take your racial slurs and throw them out. Never use
them again. Not here, not email, not IRC, not anywhere.
You are offensive and looking for a fight.
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#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
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Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by nixfas):
Replying to [comment:5 fenris02]:
WEB QUOTE:
* Spam is most often considered to be electronic junk mail or junk
newsgroup
postings. Some people define spam even more generally as any
unsolicited email.
You did spam me. Twice. Unwanted, trollish, trying very hard to start
fights.
You neglected to mention above that you rely heavily upon google
translate, and
your english is poor. Your own words.
IRC QUOTE:
* #fedora-social_20130809.log:[06:34:20] <nix\> fenris02: I no acusse
you of
nothing.- And yes, my english is very bad and really is a pain
explain me clearly, because in Spanish i have more verbs and words than
English so, Google translate no work properly.
And again:
IRC QUOTE 2:
* #fedora-social_20130809.log:[06:37:11] <nix\> fenris02: I say that
Google
translate no translate correctly works and verbs from es to en, so,
is a pain explain me with the people that only speak english. Nothing
more.
Why not just admit that you did not understand and then went on a rant
bender
instead of trying to blame others?
Also note that I did not make any remarks about es language at all. I
did not make
any racial remarks either. Do not blame me for what others
did. I take no part in that.
EMAIL QUOTE:
* i feel that you and Bob are a bit "redneck KKK ultra nacionalist",
hating black people (i mentioned nigger ironically) , mexicans, latin
americans, and all different to the model of "American Dad" animated
serie.
* No more, I no stand by a reply, a consistent and sincere reply,
because, i
don't think that you think different that the 80% of the United
States people.
That is directly from you. Baseless accusations that have NO PART AT
ALL in
private or on IRC anywhere.
Do everyone a favour. take your racial slurs and throw them out. Never
use them
again. Not here, not email, not IRC, not anywhere.
You are offensive and looking for a fight.
Ok is you consider my Email as junk, is spam, ok, nice, my Email is
junk.[[BR]]
IRC Quotes no have any relevant here, my problem with English is not for
no understand the comments of you and from EvilBob, right?.[[BR]]
'''*You attempt to deflect the issue*'''[[BR]]
You not, but EvilBob yes remarks things about Spanish language, and I
mentioned you, because you seem instigating this discussion (speaking as
example of legal war, crimes and history of my country, totally irrelevant
and hurtful) and do not say anything to EvilBob observe, does know him
longer than I have and you could have said something.[[BR]]
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'''Email Quotes:'''
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All comments of you, non-related with my question about russian fedora and
skype, trying of disturb me remember the war, crimes and more in 70-80
years + comments of EvilBob of Spinach (es language), Mexican't, Bro
(EvilBob hate bro word because is like "some ethnical groups in US"), is
clearly that you and EvilBob have a seriously problem with racial,
language and ethnical people.[[BR]][[BR]]
You don't stop the comments of Bob Jensen, and instigated him following
the discussion, so, please no delete with the elbow what you wrote with
your hand, only see the LOG of my xchat.[[BR]]
Accusations based in the words of you and Bob Jensen, no more, no less,
look the LOG again please.[[BR]]
Only a redneck KKK or ultra nacionalist folk speak like EvilBob and you
looking all and instigating the fight or you have a personal problem with
me?.[[BR]]
[[BR]]
Look fenris02, I have no racial problem with any country or ethnical
group. I tolk about "nigger" in ironic mode teasing of the BIG problem of
Bob with SPINACH and you with my Country, that, repeat: IS THE SECOND TIME
IN THE YEAR THAT YOU SPEAK ABOUT WAR CRIMES AND SUPPOSED ILLEGAL THINGS OF
MY COUNTRY WITHOUT ANY REAL REASON IN THE MIDDLE OF A TECHNICAL
CONVERSATION, SO:[[BR]]
[[BR]]
'''who has the problem?'''[[BR]]
[[BR]]
'''I think the answer is obvious'''
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#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by nixfas):
In addition, I aport much bug reports and solutions to Fedora, so, if you
have any trouble with my person, ok, but I'm not going to move from the
IRC, FAS Account or anything.[[BR]][[BR]]
And the comments about my bad english are of the final of the log, when
all problem and abuse was had occurred, so, you do not take me for a fool,
and neither who going to solve the ticket, nirik.
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Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
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Comment (by nixfas):
And remember Fenris02, this is a '''IRC''' ticket, no Email, so,
Email
quotes or Email words is for Email conversation, right?.[[BR]]
If you want i can paste ALL Email, because you paste pieces of the Email
and it is out of context, and you know.[[BR]]
[[BR]]
Repeat, if NIRIK, not you, want i paste entire Email here, is not related
because i can see "IRC-SUPPORT-SIG" but if nirik want entire Email for
understand the entire problem with you, no problem from my person, i don't
paste pieces of a Email for change the context.
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
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Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
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Comment (by nixfas):
'''IRC QUOTE, the most relevant of the ALL LOG:'''
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ago 09 01:11:24 <nix\> Is legal or allowed submit to Koji M$ office[[BR]]
151 2007 in rpm format?[[BR]]
152 ago 09 01:11:29 <nix\> is possible, using wine[[BR]]
153 ago 09 01:11:53 <fenris02> nix\, depends which countries laws
you obey
154 now doesnt it.[[BR]]
155 ago 09 01:12:05 <fenris02> nix\, THINK for a minute. REAL
HARD.[[BR]]
156 ago 09 01:12:46 <HadalPoint> nix\: You should package Internet
157 Explorer 6 in rpm format and submit to Koji. I'll support the
effort![[BR]]
158 ago 09 01:13:13 <nix\> fenris02: Argentina[[BR]]
159 ago 09 01:13:15 <nix\> Legal is legal[[BR]]
160 ago 09 01:13:18 <nix\> law is ley[[BR]]
161 ago 09 01:13:19 <fenris02> nix\, WRONG[[BR]]
162 ago 09 01:13:40 '''<fenris02> nix\, in argentina, WAR
criminals were given'''
163 '''leeway for 60 years for crimes against
humanity'''[[BR]]
164 '''ago 09 01:13:52 <nix\> fenris02: is other
thing'''[[BR]]
165 ago 09 01:13:52 <fenris02> MANY, countless thousands
died.[[BR]]
166 ago 09 01:14:11 <fenris02> nix\, "legal" in .ar is not the
same as .us
167 or .ru or any other country[[BR]]
168 ago 09 01:14:20 <nix\> fenris02: actually war criminals are in
prission[[BR]]
169 ago 09 01:14:33 <fenris02> nix\, no, they roamed free 60+
years.[[BR]]
170 ago 09 01:14:36 <HadalPoint> fenris02: Unless it's over the
internet
171 of course. Then all laws apply. cough[[BR]]
172 ago 09 01:14:44 <fenris02> nix\, c'mon, you know your
history.[[BR]]
173 '''ago 09 01:14:47 <EvilBob> lol'''[[BR]]
174 ago 09 01:14:52 <nix\> fenris02: speaking of gramatic, is the
same in
175 .uy .ar .es .co etc[[BR]]
176 '''ago 09 01:14:53 <fenris02> nix\, think back to the
mid-80s
in your own'''
177 '''country'''[[BR]]
178 ago 09 01:15:14 <nix\> fenris02: yes, I know the history... is
legal
179 that CIA do?[[BR]]
180 ago 09 01:15:15 <fenris02> why do i know what happened in the
70s and
181 80s in your country and you do not nix\ ?[[BR]]
182 ago 09 01:15:29 <HadalPoint> nix\: It's okay, I agree with
you... so
183 does Judge Dredd. THE LAW IS THE LAW.[[BR]]
184 ago 09 01:15:42 <nix\> fenris02: I have no shame about it, is
that my
185 country sucks about many things[[BR]]
186 ago 09 01:15:48 <fenris02> nix\, legal? does not apply if
you are
187 outside the country .. you obey the remote countries laws[[BR]]
188 ago 09 01:16:07 <fenris02> nix\, you obey the laws of the
country you
189 reside in. not the one you were born.[[BR]]
190 ago 09 01:16:09 <nix\> HadalPoint: Exctly[[BR]]
191 ago 09 01:16:11 <nix\> a*[[BR]]
192 ago 09 01:16:12 <fenris02> nix\, they CHANGE[[BR]]
193 ago 09 01:16:18 <HadalPoint> lol..[[BR]]
194 ago 09 01:16:39 <fenris02> nix\, stop being a fool.[[BR]]
195 '''ago 09 01:16:48 <nix\> fenris02: criminal 70-80 read in
wikipedia'''
196 '''"operacion condor"'''[[BR]]
197 ago 09 01:16:59 <fenris02> nix\, yep. i'm quite
familiar[[BR]]
198 ago 09 01:17:10 <nix\>
199 http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operaci%C3%B3n_C%C3%B3ndor[[BR]]
200 ago 09 01:17:18 <nix\> well[[BR]]
201 '''ago 09 01:17:22 <EvilBob> es?'''[[BR]]
202 ago 09 01:17:31 <nix\> all war in argentina, uruguay, etc of
latam[[BR]]
203 '''ago 09 01:17:32 <EvilBob> I don't read
Mexican't'''[[BR]]
204 '''ago 09 01:17:36 <fenris02> changing topics to avoid
admitting fault?'''
205 '''nice troll effort there nix\'''[[BR]] -> I'm
the troll? I
starting the conversation about crimes, war and history of my country?
206 ago 09 01:17:37 <nix\> was orquested by eeuu[[BR]]
207 ago 09 01:17:55 <nix\> by the CIA[[BR]]
208 ago 09 01:18:24 <fenris02> how's that iphone working for you
nix\ ?
209 any of your friends have one?[[BR]]
210 ago 09 01:18:24 <HadalPoint> What does the CIA have to do with
211 Microsoft-Office.rpm ?[[BR]]
212 ago 09 01:18:26 <nix\> Chile, Argentina, Brasil, Paraguay,
Uruguay,
213 Bolivia , Perú, Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador[[BR]]
214 ago 09 01:18:30 <fenris02> HadalPoint, about nothing[[BR]]
215 '''ago 09 01:18:36 <nix\> EvilBob:
Spanish'''[[BR]]
216 '''ago 09 01:18:39 <nix\> No .mx'''[[BR]]
217 ago 09 01:19:00 <fenris02> iphone is perfectly legal to have
if you are
218 in .us ..[[BR]]
219 '''ago 09 01:19:00 <EvilBob> You say spinach I say
Mexican't'''[[BR]]
220 '''ago 09 01:19:04 * fenris02 waits for it
..'''[[BR]]
221 ago 09 01:19:06 <HadalPoint> EvilBob: lol[[BR]]
222 ago 09 01:19:11 <nix\> fenris02: No, i no change the topic for
admit
223 nothing.[[BR]]
224 '''ago 09 01:19:16 <fenris02> nix\,
hahahahahhaa'''[[BR]]
225 '''ago 09 01:19:17 <nix\> Only respond, shit with
shit.'''[[BR]]
226 '''ago 09 01:19:20 <fenris02> nix\, move
along.'''[[BR]]
227 '''ago 09 01:19:58 <nix\> EvilBob:
Spanish'''[[BR]]
228 '''ago 09 01:20:10 <EvilBob> Yeah,
Mexican't'''[[BR]]
229 '''ago 09 01:20:17 <nix\> Mexican is spanish too, but with
some
argot'''[[BR]]
230 ago 09 01:20:20 <EvilBob> ;)[[BR]]
231 ago 09 01:20:53 <nix\> fenris02: If you way "criminal war",
etc,
i say
232 "yes, orquested by the CIA of eeuu".[[BR]]
233 '''ago 09 01:20:59 <EvilBob> nix\: As long as you
don't
claim to be'''
234 '''American, we will be OK'''[[BR]]
235 ago 09 01:21:22 <nix\> EvilBob: Are you much nacionalist?[[BR]]
236 '''ago 09 01:21:23 <HadalPoint> EvilBob: South
American?'''[[BR]]
237 ago 09 01:21:32 <nix\> similar to george bush?[[BR]]
238 ago 09 01:21:51 <nix\> hate arabic, nigger, latam, etc?[[BR]]
239 ago 09 01:21:55 * FranciscoD
240 (~Ankur^^@pdpc/supporter/active/franciscod) ha entrado en #fedora-
social[[BR]]
241 ago 09 01:21:58 <HadalPoint> ehh[[BR]]
242 ago 09 01:22:04 <nix\> hating*[[BR]]
243 '''ago 09 01:22:19 <nix\> America is a
continent'''[[BR]]
244 '''ago 09 01:22:29 * fedbot establece modo +q #fedora-social
nix\!*@*'''
245 '''ago 09 01:22:30 <fedbot> nix\, You have been quieted
in
this channel'''
246 '''for 15 minutes. Please read the FAQ in the channel topic and
consider'''
247 '''changing your approach and/or the behavior that is disrupting
the'''
248 '''channel. Take a break and consider things.'''[[BR]]
249 ago 09 01:22:33 <nix\> North America other and South America
other[[BR]]
250 '''ago 09 01:22:33 * #fedora-social :Cannot send to
channel'''[[BR]]
[[BR]]
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resume of the LOG and note the bold marked words. The log was not
modified, only is a cut of the full log and marked with bold the most
relevant words that involves the abuse and racism problem descript
here.[[BR]]
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I attempted to hold a discussion with the OP. He kept repeating again and
again the same statements as if repetition would suddenly make them more
true. My position as I stated is that Fedora Legal counsel's advice is
people are free to help those in embargoed nations with Fedora support
issues as per the dictates of their conscience. Clearly it would be illegal
to supply them with such embargoed software and there would be penalties
for that but that isn't the issue.
I quieted them because the discussion was repeating and going nowhere and
they would not let it lie.
Clive aka DiscordianUK
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by nixfas):
'''IRC QUOTE, the most relevant of the ALL LOG:'''
----
ago 09 01:11:24 <nix\> Is legal or allowed submit to Koji M$ office[[BR]]
151 2007 in rpm format?[[BR]]
152 ago 09 01:11:29 <nix\> is possible, using wine[[BR]]
153 ago 09 01:11:53 <fenris02> nix\, depends which countries laws
you obey
154 now doesnt it.[[BR]]
155 ago 09 01:12:05 <fenris02> nix\, THINK for a minute. REAL
HARD.[[BR]]
156 ago 09 01:12:46 <HadalPoint> nix\: You should package Internet
157 Explorer 6 in rpm format and submit to Koji. I'll support the
effort![[BR]]
158 ago 09 01:13:13 <nix\> fenris02: Argentina[[BR]]
159 ago 09 01:13:15 <nix\> Legal is legal[[BR]]
160 ago 09 01:13:18 <nix\> law is ley[[BR]]
161 ago 09 01:13:19 <fenris02> nix\, WRONG[[BR]]
162 ago 09 01:13:40 '''<fenris02> nix\, in argentina, WAR
criminals were given'''
163 '''leeway for 60 years for crimes against
humanity'''[[BR]]
164 '''ago 09 01:13:52 <nix\> fenris02: is other
thing'''[[BR]]
165 ago 09 01:13:52 <fenris02> MANY, countless thousands
died.[[BR]]
166 ago 09 01:14:11 <fenris02> nix\, "legal" in .ar is not the
same as .us
167 or .ru or any other country[[BR]]
168 ago 09 01:14:20 <nix\> fenris02: actually war criminals are in
prission[[BR]]
169 ago 09 01:14:33 <fenris02> nix\, no, they roamed free 60+
years.[[BR]]
170 ago 09 01:14:36 <HadalPoint> fenris02: Unless it's over the
internet
171 of course. Then all laws apply. cough[[BR]]
172 ago 09 01:14:44 <fenris02> nix\, c'mon, you know your
history.[[BR]]
173 '''ago 09 01:14:47 <EvilBob> lol'''[[BR]]
174 ago 09 01:14:52 <nix\> fenris02: speaking of gramatic, is the
same in
175 .uy .ar .es .co etc[[BR]]
176 '''ago 09 01:14:53 <fenris02> nix\, think back to the
mid-80s
in your own'''
177 '''country'''[[BR]]
178 ago 09 01:15:14 <nix\> fenris02: yes, I know the history... is
legal
179 that CIA do?[[BR]]
180 ago 09 01:15:15 <fenris02> why do i know what happened in the
70s and
181 80s in your country and you do not nix\ ?[[BR]]
182 ago 09 01:15:29 <HadalPoint> nix\: It's okay, I agree with
you... so
183 does Judge Dredd. THE LAW IS THE LAW.[[BR]]
184 ago 09 01:15:42 <nix\> fenris02: I have no shame about it, is
that my
185 country sucks about many things[[BR]]
186 ago 09 01:15:48 <fenris02> nix\, legal? does not apply if
you are
187 outside the country .. you obey the remote countries laws[[BR]]
188 ago 09 01:16:07 <fenris02> nix\, you obey the laws of the
country you
189 reside in. not the one you were born.[[BR]]
190 ago 09 01:16:09 <nix\> HadalPoint: Exctly[[BR]]
191 ago 09 01:16:11 <nix\> a*[[BR]]
192 ago 09 01:16:12 <fenris02> nix\, they CHANGE[[BR]]
193 ago 09 01:16:18 <HadalPoint> lol..[[BR]]
194 ago 09 01:16:39 <fenris02> nix\, stop being a fool.[[BR]]
195 '''ago 09 01:16:48 <nix\> fenris02: criminal 70-80 read in
wikipedia'''
196 '''"operacion condor"'''[[BR]]
197 ago 09 01:16:59 <fenris02> nix\, yep. i'm quite
familiar[[BR]]
198 ago 09 01:17:10 <nix\>
199 http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operaci%C3%B3n_C%C3%B3ndor[[BR]]
200 ago 09 01:17:18 <nix\> well[[BR]]
201 '''ago 09 01:17:22 <EvilBob> es?'''[[BR]]
202 ago 09 01:17:31 <nix\> all war in argentina, uruguay, etc of
latam[[BR]]
203 '''ago 09 01:17:32 <EvilBob> I don't read
Mexican't'''[[BR]]
204 '''ago 09 01:17:36 <fenris02> changing topics to avoid
admitting fault?'''
205 '''nice troll effort there nix\'''[[BR]] -> I'm
the troll? I
starting the conversation about crimes, war and history of my country?
206 ago 09 01:17:37 <nix\> was orquested by eeuu[[BR]]
207 ago 09 01:17:55 <nix\> by the CIA[[BR]]
208 ago 09 01:18:24 <fenris02> how's that iphone working for you
nix\ ?
209 any of your friends have one?[[BR]]
210 ago 09 01:18:24 <HadalPoint> What does the CIA have to do with
211 Microsoft-Office.rpm ?[[BR]]
212 ago 09 01:18:26 <nix\> Chile, Argentina, Brasil, Paraguay,
Uruguay,
213 Bolivia , Perú, Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador[[BR]]
214 ago 09 01:18:30 <fenris02> HadalPoint, about nothing[[BR]]
215 '''ago 09 01:18:36 <nix\> EvilBob:
Spanish'''[[BR]]
216 '''ago 09 01:18:39 <nix\> No .mx'''[[BR]]
217 ago 09 01:19:00 <fenris02> iphone is perfectly legal to have
if you are
218 in .us ..[[BR]]
219 '''ago 09 01:19:00 <EvilBob> You say spinach I say
Mexican't'''[[BR]]
220 '''ago 09 01:19:04 * fenris02 waits for it
..'''[[BR]]
221 ago 09 01:19:06 <HadalPoint> EvilBob: lol[[BR]]
222 ago 09 01:19:11 <nix\> fenris02: No, i no change the topic for
admit
223 nothing.[[BR]]
224 '''ago 09 01:19:16 <fenris02> nix\,
hahahahahhaa'''[[BR]]
225 '''ago 09 01:19:17 <nix\> Only respond, shit with
shit.'''[[BR]]
226 '''ago 09 01:19:20 <fenris02> nix\, move
along.'''[[BR]]
227 '''ago 09 01:19:58 <nix\> EvilBob:
Spanish'''[[BR]]
228 '''ago 09 01:20:10 <EvilBob> Yeah,
Mexican't'''[[BR]]
229 '''ago 09 01:20:17 <nix\> Mexican is spanish too, but with
some
argot'''[[BR]]
230 ago 09 01:20:20 <EvilBob> ;)[[BR]]
231 ago 09 01:20:53 <nix\> fenris02: If you way "criminal war",
etc,
i say
232 "yes, orquested by the CIA of eeuu".[[BR]]
233 '''ago 09 01:20:59 <EvilBob> nix\: As long as you
don't
claim to be'''
234 '''American, we will be OK'''[[BR]]
235 ago 09 01:21:22 <nix\> EvilBob: Are you much nacionalist?[[BR]]
236 '''ago 09 01:21:23 <HadalPoint> EvilBob: South
American?'''[[BR]]
237 ago 09 01:21:32 <nix\> similar to george bush?[[BR]]
238 ago 09 01:21:51 <nix\> hate arabic, nigger, latam, etc?[[BR]]
239 ago 09 01:21:55 * FranciscoD
240 (~Ankur^^@pdpc/supporter/active/franciscod) ha entrado en #fedora-
social[[BR]]
241 ago 09 01:21:58 <HadalPoint> ehh[[BR]]
242 ago 09 01:22:04 <nix\> hating*[[BR]]
243 '''ago 09 01:22:19 <nix\> America is a
continent'''[[BR]]
244 '''ago 09 01:22:29 * fedbot establece modo +q #fedora-social
nix\!*@*'''
245 '''ago 09 01:22:30 <fedbot> nix\, You have been quieted
in
this channel'''
246 '''for 15 minutes. Please read the FAQ in the channel topic and
consider'''
247 '''changing your approach and/or the behavior that is disrupting
the'''
248 '''channel. Take a break and consider things.'''[[BR]]
249 ago 09 01:22:33 <nix\> North America other and South America
other[[BR]]
250 '''ago 09 01:22:33 * #fedora-social :Cannot send to
channel'''[[BR]]
[[BR]]
nirik, or the person responsible for solve this IRC ticket, read this
resume of the LOG and note the bold marked words. The log was not
modified, only is a cut of the full log and marked with bold the most
relevant words that involves the abuse and racism problem descript
here.[[BR]]
Thank you
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#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by nixfas):
@EvilBob ||
ago 22 01:49:49 <EvilBob> nix\: My "home" has a very strong Polish
and
Scandinavian immigrant background. One of the speech things that comes
from that is most of my family and neighbors can't say "Mexican" it always
comes out "Mexican't"[[BR]]
[[BR]]
But, Googling i found this:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mexican%27t and that is a
despective way for call to mexican people: Mexican + Can't =
Mexican't.[[BR]]
Very strange, all fine bob, but, after the chat with you, Google it
"Mexican't" and I found this.[[BR]]
[[BR]]
I appreciate your apology anyway, but I wanted to show that it is used in
a derogatory way, so be careful when you use that word
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by seeitcoming):
Trashing the integrity of Russia and Argentina vs. the US is incorrect in
addition to being unwelcoming-bordering-on-offensive: the Global Integrity
Report [http://www.globalintegrity.org ranks Argentina] higher than the US
for its legal frameworks, and overall.
It seems very much like the channel ops were more interested in cracking
race jokes ("Mexican't" is not a word I want to see in a Fedora channel,
particularly not when deployed by native English speakers against a
Spanish speaker) than answering the original interesting question, or
allowing anyone else to.
I think it reflects incredibly badly on the community for channel ops to
be hassling someone based on their nationality. The IRC channels are
supposed to be welcoming and polite.
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I made zero references to your origins.
Clive
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#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
-----------------------+--------------------------------------------------
Comment (by seeitcoming):
Trashing the integrity of Russia and Argentina vs. the US is incorrect in
addition to being unwelcoming-bordering-on-offensive: the Global Integrity
Report [http://www.globalintegrity.org ranks Argentina] higher than the
US
for its legal frameworks, and overall.
It seems very much like the channel ops were more interested in cracking
race jokes ("Mexican't" is not a word I want to see in a Fedora channel,
particularly not when deployed by native English speakers against a
Spanish speaker) than answering the original interesting question, or
allowing anyone else to.
I think it reflects incredibly badly on the community for channel ops to
be hassling someone based on their nationality. The IRC channels are
supposed to be welcoming and polite.
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: new
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by bjensen):
Replying to [comment:11 seeitcoming]:
Trashing the integrity of Russia and Argentina vs. the US is
incorrect
in addition to being unwelcoming-bordering-on-offensive: the Global
Integrity Report [http://www.globalintegrity.org ranks Argentina] higher
than the US for its legal frameworks, and overall.
It seems very much like the channel ops were more interested in cracking
race
jokes ("Mexican't" is not a word I want to see in a Fedora channel,
particularly not when deployed by native English speakers against a
Spanish speaker) than answering the original interesting question, or
allowing anyone else to.
I think it reflects incredibly badly on the community for channel ops to
be
hassling someone based on their nationality. The IRC channels are
supposed to be welcoming and polite.
OK lets address this, The Russian part first. The original question was
why some "Russian Fedora" includes something that the REAL Fedora does
not, the answer of "Different countries have different laws" for some
reason was not understood. I still don't know why.
The Argentina part... I really have no idea where fenris was going with
this or why. Argentina has a spotty history when it comes to some things
but again, I don't know why it matters.
The question was posted in a NON-SUPPORT channel, the "ops" and other
users of the channel should not be interested in giving support there, it
is a social, light hearted channel.
As for nixfas being a Spanish speaker, I had no idea, I don't care, I've
never had a problem with them they do a fine job of helping users in the
#fedora support channel most of the time and is an overall fun person to
socialize with in the -social channel. I've never known "Mexican't" to
be
used in what I would call a derogatory manner. "Back home" the influence
of Polish and Scandinavian language makes all my family and friends with
the regional accent to pronounce "Mexican" as "Mexican't" and
even my
friend Manuel who is a 1st generation "American" who's Father came to the
US legally use it ALL the time. Hell he calls me an "American't."
I think it reflects poorly on the community for everyone to be sprung to
God damned tight that they can't even see when people who are otherwise
their friends are joking. I explained my side of things to nixfas and
apologized for my part in any unintended offence they may have taken,
which they accepted.
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: closed
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: fixed | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Changes (by dcr226):
* status: new => closed
* resolution: => fixed
Comment:
This interaction was in a social channel and was the result of
misunderstandings. All involved are advised to try and not take or offer
offense when jokes are involved. It a topic is uncomfortable to you or you
are unsure if people are joking, please communicate and ask or leave the
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: closed
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: fixed | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by nixfas):
Replying to [comment:13 dcr226]:
This interaction was in a social channel and was the result of
misunderstandings. All involved are advised to try and not take or offer
offense when jokes are involved. It a topic is uncomfortable to you or you
are unsure if people are joking, please communicate and ask or leave the
conversation[[BR]]
[[BR]]
Dcr226: Bob Jensen apologized and clarified everything with me, but
fenris02 (Dennis), not, so, why is marked as closed/fixed when fenris02 is
not explain me or to #fedora about remember me a spotty history, war
crimes, etc?.[[BR]]
For show me that the same law is different in some countrys is not needed
speak about Argentina+war+crimes+non-legal country, ok?.[[BR]]
[[BR]]
So, please, fenris02 going to apologize me or penalty is to be applied?.
#fedora-social is the same for ticket that #fedora, the guidelines say
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no llores por mi argentina.. me gusta este canción...
On 08/22/2013 02:47 PM, irc-support-sig wrote:
#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: closed
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: fixed | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Comment (by nixfas):
Replying to [comment:13 dcr226]:
> This interaction was in a social channel and was the result of
misunderstandings. All involved are advised to try and not take or offer
offense when jokes are involved. It a topic is uncomfortable to you or you
are unsure if people are joking, please communicate and ask or leave the
conversation[[BR]]
[[BR]]
Dcr226: Bob Jensen apologized and clarified everything with me, but
fenris02 (Dennis), not, so, why is marked as closed/fixed when fenris02 is
not explain me or to #fedora about remember me a spotty history, war
crimes, etc?.[[BR]]
For show me that the same law is different in some countrys is not needed
speak about Argentina+war+crimes+non-legal country, ok?.[[BR]]
[[BR]]
So, please, fenris02 going to apologize me or penalty is to be applied?.
#fedora-social is the same for ticket that #fedora, the guidelines say
that.
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#156: maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: reopened
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Changes (by nixfas):
* resolution: fixed =>
* status: closed => reopened
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: reopened
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach, intolerance
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Comment (by bjensen):
Do you actually require an apology from everyone you encounter in life? I
mean come on, sometimes you just have to let things go.
-- Bob
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: closed
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: worksforme | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach,
Blocked By: | intolerance
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Changes (by bjensen):
* resolution: => worksforme
* status: reopened => closed
Comment:
Discussed this at our meeting again on 2013-09-12 the resolution at the
meeting was to close ticket again and ask reporter to move on or
communicate directly for any apologies.
-- Bob
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Reporter: nixfas | Owner:
Type: feedback | Status: closed
Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 19
Version: | Severity: Negative
Resolution: worksforme | Keywords: war, mexican't, spinach,
Blocked By: | intolerance
| Blocking:
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Changes (by germano):
* cc: germano.massullo@… (added)
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Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/156#comment:18>
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