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#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-2
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (tflink, 17:01:14)
* Introduction (tflink, 17:07:20)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (tflink, 17:07:33)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 17:07:42)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 17:07:42)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 17:07:48)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
17:07:48)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
17:07:54)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:07:54)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:07:54)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 17:07:54)
* The current count of blocker and NTH bugs is: (tflink, 17:08:08)
* 25 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:08:17)
* 15 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:08:18)
* 23 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:08:18)
* 5 Accepted NTH (tflink, 17:08:18)
* LINK:
http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/sortedBlockers.html
(tflink, 17:09:47)
* 12 proposed blockers highlighted for discussion (tflink, 17:09:58)
* (851265) booting a wrong arch results in a black screen (tflink,
17:10:40)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851265 (tflink,
17:10:40)
* Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (tflink, 17:10:40)
* AGREED: 851265 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While this is
inconvenient, it is easily workaround-able (don't boot an image that
your arch can't support) it is rejected as a blocker for F18 final.
However, some warning message would be nice and a tested fix would
be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:16:37)
* (873220) dracut ignores /etc/modprobe.d blacklist (tflink, 17:16:42)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873220 (tflink,
17:16:45)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (tflink, 17:16:47)
* AGREED: 873220 - RejectedBlocker - Given our understanding at this
time, this mostly affects the third-party graphics drivers which
does not violate any F18 release criteria and could be fixed with an
update. Therefore rejected as a blocker for F18 final (already
accepted as NTH, a tested fix would be considered past freeze)
(tflink, 17:26:49)
* (881670) Provide fedup hook to add x-systemd.device-timeout=0 to mount
options for encrypted file systems that need a passphrase from the
user (tflink, 17:27:44)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881670 (tflink,
17:27:47)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (tflink, 17:27:50)
* there is still a lot of confusion around this issue and there is
currently not enough information to make a decision on blocker
status. will re-visit when there is more info (tflink, 17:28:41)
* (870753) [abrt] gnome-font-viewer-3.6.0-1.fc18: load_font_infos:
Process /usr/bin/gnome-font-viewer was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
(tflink, 17:30:08)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=870753 (tflink,
17:30:11)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-font-viewer, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:30:14)
* AGREED: 870753 - It's still unclear on whether this is still
crashing or just displaying a bogus error message. We need more info
on current behavior before deciding on blocker status. Request that
a new gnome-font-viewer be built with the in-bug patch and testing
with the new version to determine current behavior. (tflink,
17:40:42)
* (862828) cancelling network time service kills firstboot (tflink,
17:40:51)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862828 (tflink,
17:40:51)
* Proposed Blocker, system-config-date, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:40:52)
* AGREED: 862828 - AcceptedBlocker - This provides a pretty bad first
impression but doesn't completely violate any F18 release criterion.
Accepted (pending criterion revision proposal) as it violates the
following F18 alpha release criterion in spirit: "In most cases, a
system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to
the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation,
without unintended user intervention ..." (tflink, 17:50:12)
* ACTION: adamw to revise firstboot criterion to cover successful exit
/ next boot run suppression (adamw, 17:51:21)
* (873831) Make /tmp bigger, or use target image for yum downloads
(tflink, 17:52:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873831 (tflink,
17:52:36)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:52:38)
* AGREED: 873831 - RejectedBlocker - While unfortunate, this seems to
be a little too much of a corner case to take as a blocker for F18
final (little memory, many extra repos) and is rejected as a
blocker. Please re-propose if it turns out to be a more general
problem than we're understanding. (tflink, 18:03:27)
* (874486) progress indicator for mediacheck isn't displayed, so users
may think the installer is hung (tflink, 18:03:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874486 (tflink,
18:03:36)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:03:39)
* AGREED: 874486 - AcceptedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - Violates the
following F18 final release criterion: "If there is an embedded
checksum in the image, it must match. If there is a related UI
element displayed after booting the image, it must work and display
the correct result". However, removing mediacheck as the default
boot option would be enough to remove release blocking status. A
tested complete fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink,
18:13:16)
* (876716) anaconda crashes after setting root password (tflink,
18:13:31)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876716 (tflink,
18:13:31)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:13:31)
* AGREED: 876716 - AcceptedBlocker - While this doesn't happen every
time, it seems to be happening enough to justify release-blocking
status. Violates the following F18 final release criterion as a
not-uncommon timing issue: "The installer must be able to complete
an installation using all supported interfaces" (tflink, 18:18:08)
* (882722) 'KeyError: None' while trying to install F18 beta (tflink,
18:18:21)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882722 (tflink,
18:18:21)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:18:21)
* AGREED: 882722 - This seems like it would qualify as a blocker for
F18 final but we would like to get more information on what install
configurations cause this before making a final decision. Will
re-visit when there is more information. (tflink, 18:28:52)
* (873144) pressing Esc kills plymouth screen (tflink, 18:28:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873144 (tflink,
18:28:56)
* Proposed Blocker, plymouth, NEW (tflink, 18:28:57)
* still waiting for tflink to re-organize as a clear issue, will
re-visit when that happens (tflink, 18:31:51)
* (872088) fedup giving grubby backtrace (tflink, 18:33:12)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872088 (tflink,
18:33:12)
* Proposed Blocker, fedup, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:33:12)
* AGREED: 872088 - While it seems clear that people are still hitting
grubby issues, the exact cause of this isn't clear and might be
better to split off into a new report. will revisit later (tflink,
18:38:04)
* (860789) Multihead displays shows artifacts (tflink, 18:39:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860789 (tflink,
18:39:57)
* Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drv-ati, NEW (tflink, 18:39:57)
* AGREED: 860789 - RejectedBlocker - This could be fixed with an
update in most situations and is too hardware/setup specific to
block the release of F18 final. (tflink, 18:46:24)
* Open Floor (tflink, 18:49:58)
* if no need is seen before then, the next blocker review meeting will
be on 2012-12-05 @ 17:00 UTC (tflink, 20:14:24)
Meeting ended at 20:14:54 UTC.
Action Items
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* adamw to revise firstboot criterion to cover successful exit / next
boot run suppression
Action Items, by person
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* adamw
* adamw to revise firstboot criterion to cover successful exit / next
boot run suppression
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (230)
* kparal (112)
* adamw (102)
* Viking-Ice (87)
* jreznik (53)
* akshayvyas (15)
* buggbot (13)
* pschindl (13)
* robatino (6)
* zodbot (5)
* eblake (3)
* rbergeron (2)
* satellit (1)
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