Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1
by Peter Robinson
2011/11/7 Manuel Quiñones <manuq(a)laptop.org>:
> 2011/11/7 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com>:
>> Thanks, it was about what I expected. We're about 3-4 months out from
>> the spit and polish side of things, more aimed at developers to get a
>> platform with systemd and all the libraries/tools needed for the port
>> to gtk3 etc.
>
> Testing if activities ported to gtk3 work in build os1.. they don't
> work at the moment. Tested with browse-gtk3 and helloworld mainline,
> same error:
That's because we have sugar 0.95.1. Please read the release notes to
find out what is there, there is no sugar release with it in yet, so
its not in a build.
Peter
12 years, 6 months
Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1
by Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Kevin Gordon <kgordon420(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Martin Langhoff <martin(a)laptop.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Yes, its coming to F17 as a feature, as I said previously, that
>> > doesn't mean that Fallback mode is going away in F17.
>>
>> There's nothing in that discussion thread about keeping a knob to
>> enable fallback mode. The title of the thread says it all.
>>
>> I was just going to send Ajax your build, I see you're one step ahead
>> of me :-) -- one thing is missing -- instructions on how to install
>> it, for someone who's gotten rusty (like Ajax who hasn't updated his
>> XOs in a while). And the XO-1 install process is different with UBIFS.
>
> I was fortunate enough to have DSD install an F17 build on an XO 1.5 when in
> SF.
>
> So, I'm up for anything you want me to test. I downloaded the xo 1.5 files
> from build.laptop.org
>
> On a new XO 1.5, i just used the same proc as previously for developer
> build installs:
>
> boot to OFW, enter 'disable-security' to verify no wp tag so the install
> doesn't scrub mu ability to boot back into ofw :-)
> copy os1.zd4 onto a usb stick
> insert usb stick into XO 1.5
> fs-update u:\os1.zd4.
Correct.
> The 'f'ile updated only 1 chunk' message is back, which means one enters
> 'reboot', but otherwise things were actually copied correctly.
> The firmware updated to Q3B22.
> It booted with a transient black screen, brings up the little arrow, then
Yes, no pretty boot just yet.
> goes to sugar arrow and boots into the sugar home screen, but has a little
> black square on the screen in the bottom left corner.
I have that on mine, we're at the beginning of the dev cycle to gtk3
so we might get weird bits here and there.
> Switched desktop to gnome. Pretty b/g image, no desktop icons:-)
As expected.
> Wireless connected in gnome
> Switched back to sugar (using menu)
> Switched bac to sugar, little black square is gone.
> Wireless network persists on Sugar side :-)
> Shutdown from sugar doesnt immediately shutdown. Goes to text mode, seems
> to go into a loop, then after about 2 minutes finishes the shutdown.
> Subsequent startup in sugar now does the unexpeceted full black screen
> transition, and the little black square in the bottom left corner
> re-appears.
> Switch to gnome - being a fool, i cant find the shutdown icon, or an entry
> on a menu. So, I go to terminal, enter shutdown, it broadcasts a 1 minute
Top right, click on the "olpc user" and you get the shutdown option.
> delay, message, then shuts down.
> Reboot brings up prettyboot, then does the black screen transition again,
> and even on the gnome side, the little black square in the bottom left
> appears.
Thanks, it was about what I expected. We're about 3-4 months out from
the spit and polish side of things, more aimed at developers to get a
platform with systemd and all the libraries/tools needed for the port
to gtk3 etc.
Peter
> That's about all the time I have this morning to play.
> I'll try the XO-1 once I get home
>
> Cheers
>
> KG
>
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> I dont have an XO-1 with me, but I presume if it's ubifs, the files will
> also be the same (i.e. os1.onu and os1.uim), adn one will use the
> update-nand ofw command, instead of the jffs2 copy-nand command. But, I'm
> presuming that. Will let you know tonight.
>
> KG
>>
>> > What is the state of merging out VIA driver back into mainline? That
>> > would certainly help from the XO 1.5 PoV.
>>
>> That's for Jon to answer...
>>
>>
>>
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12 years, 6 months
Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1
by Daniel Drake
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Martin Langhoff <martin(a)laptop.org> wrote:
> There's nothing in that discussion thread about keeping a knob to
> enable fallback mode. The title of the thread says it all.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome_shell_software_rendering
states clearly that the fallback knob will still exist (and will
actually be converted to a tristate for some setups) and that fallback
mode will still be available for a while. It also details the
significant amount of work needed before it can be totally removed.
I don't doubt that the long term plan is to drop the fallback mode,
but for Fedora 17 it seems clear that fallback mode will still be
present.
Daniel
12 years, 6 months
Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1
by Jon Nettleton
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Martin Langhoff <martin(a)laptop.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, its coming to F17 as a feature, as I said previously, that
>> doesn't mean that Fallback mode is going away in F17.
>
> There's nothing in that discussion thread about keeping a knob to
> enable fallback mode. The title of the thread says it all.
>
> I was just going to send Ajax your build, I see you're one step ahead
> of me :-) -- one thing is missing -- instructions on how to install
> it, for someone who's gotten rusty (like Ajax who hasn't updated his
> XOs in a while). And the XO-1 install process is different with UBIFS.
>
>> What is the state of merging out VIA driver back into mainline? That
>> would certainly help from the XO 1.5 PoV.
>
> That's for Jon to answer...
Well that is really a tough one. Right now all the VIA development
work is going into the KMS/GEM driver. Would we want to push forward
with that merge?
-Jon
12 years, 6 months
Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1
by Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Martin Langhoff <martin(a)laptop.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Martin Langhoff <martin(a)laptop.org> wrote:
>>> Excellent! Thanks for this!
>>> I am pretty worried with the removal of gnome fallback -- I can't see
>>> sw rendering being usable on XO-1, and probably a lot of magic will be
>>> required for a bearable user experience on XO-1.5.
>>
>> I don't think its the case for F17, but likely will be in the future.
>
> Hmmm, ajax and Adam Williamson are talking about rawhide. Rawhide
> hasn't forked for F17, so when I read:
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Adam Jackson <ajax(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> As of tomorrow's rawhide [1], gnome-session will no longer treat
>> llvmpipe as an unsupported driver. This means gnome-shell will run even
>> on hardware without a native 3D driver, including virt guests.
>
> I read "it's coming to F17". No maybes; unless we organize a big
> browhaha on fedora-devel, file tearful bugs, and generally stage a
> drama about this to lobby for a reversal.
Yes, its coming to F17 as a feature, as I said previously, that
doesn't mean that Fallback mode is going away in F17. I suspect
depending on how this process goes as part of F17 the fallback mode
will then likely disappear in F18. The FPL already has a XO-1 and from
the "merge the big XO F7 fork back into Fedora" that happened around
F9/10 there were around 50 odd XO-1s distributed through the community
then.
What is the state of merging out VIA driver back into mainline? That
would certainly help from the XO 1.5 PoV.
Peter
12 years, 6 months
Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1
by Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Martin Langhoff <martin(a)laptop.org> wrote:
> Excellent! Thanks for this!
>
> I am pretty worried with the removal of gnome fallback -- I can't see
> sw rendering being usable on XO-1, and probably a lot of magic will be
> required for a bearable user experience on XO-1.5.
I don't think its the case for F17, but likely will be in the future.
> If we were to ship a couple of XO-1 and XO-1.5s to people involved in
> this fallback mode removal, who should we ship it to?
I'll have a poke to find out the best.
Peter
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> The "Throw away your televisions" release.
>>
>> This is the first build on our way to what will ultimately become the
>> 12.1.0 release. Its based on rawhide and the testing I did on my
>> XO-1.5 provides all basic working functionality including Sugar,
>> GNOME, networking, camera etc. gnome-shell with associated bits to
>> test running it using SW rendering isn't included in this release but
>> I'll work to get this in place for the next build.
>>
>> Some of the details of this release are:
>> - Fedora rawhide (it will become Fedora 17)
>> - Sugar 0.95.1
>> - initial patches for NetworkManager 0.9
>> - gnome 3.3.1
>> - kernel 3.x
>> - systemd plus olpc dependant services migrated thanks to dsd
>> - Surf included initially until we get a working Browse
>>
>> Known issues:
>> - 3G modems currently don't work within Sugar
>> - Browse doesn't work
>> - Read doesn't work
>> - Help doesn't work
>>
>> Download from:
>> http://build.laptop.org/12.1.0/os1/
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12 years, 6 months
Fwd: Announcing OLPC OS 11.3.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
by Peter Robinson
All,
For those that have an XO 1 / 1.5 there's a new OS release for your XO.
Of significance this is the first Fedora release for the ARM based XO
1.75. I do believe this is the first commercial use and mass use of
Fedora on ARM. Thanks to all the Fedora crew that helped make this
happen.... now hurry up and get hardfp done already :-D
Pete
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Daniel Drake <dsd(a)laptop.org>
Date: Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:27 PM
Subject: Announcing OLPC OS 11.3.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
To: OLPC Devel <devel(a)lists.laptop.org>
Hi,
We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 11.3.0 for XO-1,
XO-1.5 and as a provisional release for XO-1.75. Details of new
features, known issues, and how to download/install/upgrade can all be
found in the release notes:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.3.0
Many thanks to all contributors, testers, upstreams, and those who
have provided feedback of any kind.
For those who were following the release candidate process in the last
few weeks: candidate build 883 is released as final with no changes.
Thanks and enjoy!
Daniel
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