[Fedora-olpc-list] Package branching policies and conventions
by Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello,
Can anyone guide me to some pointers on the general policy wrt package
branching when it comes to OLPC specific branches (eg: OLPC-2, OLPC-3)
?
I have a (pretty high priority) bug at
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7474, and fixing it requires patching
quite a few X related packages most of which are directly pulled in
from F-9. Do you think it is a good idea to create separate OLPC-3
branches for these packages, or do you think I should submit my
patches to the maintainers, and wait for them to update their F-9
packages ?
Thanks,
Sayamindu
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Sayamindu Dasgupta
[http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings]
15 years, 9 months
Re: [Fedora-olpc-list] introduction and a question
by Rahul Sundaram
Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 10:28 -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
>> Any suggestions as to how to proceed then? The VPRI team has agreed to
>> remove/rewrite any contributions that people don't want relicensed.
>
> Either of those options would be the logical next step (you have to
> assume that non-responsive contributors do not agree to a relicensing,
> unless there is some sort of contributor agreement in place which
> stipulates otherwise). When the source tree is 100% MIT (or some other
> equally free license), then we should have no problem including it in
> Fedora.
When there was a discussion about the possibility of relicensing the
Linux kernel to GPLv3, there was a proposal that involved the legality
of unilateral declaration followed by a time gap for opposition instead
of getting explicit written agreement from all the contributors. You
might want to talk to Red Hat Legal to check whether this is a
possibility. It sounded more like a leap of faith than law but one can
never assume laws to be logical.
Rahul
15 years, 9 months
Re: [Fedora-olpc-list] introduction and a question
by Walter Bender
Any suggestions as to how to proceed then? The VPRI team has agreed to
remove/rewrite any contributions that people don't want relicensed.
-walter
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Tom spot Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 08:49 -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
>> I've included below the correspondence between VPRI and Debian in
>> regard the license question.
>
> I'm not sure it is safe to assume that because a contributor was not
> reached, they are therefore okay with permitting a second party to
> relicense their copyrighted work.
>
> ~spot
>
>
15 years, 9 months
[Fedora-olpc-list] introduction
by adam hyde
hi
Adam Hyde here from FLOSS Manuals.
I joined the list because we are writing some user documentation for
Sugar and OLPC. This list is a good way of keeping track of the ideas
and tech behind the two.
adam
Adam Hyde
"Free Manuals for Free Software"
http://www.flossmanuals.net/about
15 years, 9 months
Re: [Fedora-olpc-list] introduction and a question
by Walter Bender
> There was questions raised on licensing at
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList#OLPC_Wishlist
>
> Perhaps you can talk to Spot (cc'ed) and get it clarified?
>
> Rahul
I've included below the correspondence between VPRI and Debian in
regard the license question.
regards.
-walter
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kim Rose <kim.rose(a)vpri.org>
Date: Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:26 AM
Subject: Fwd: Squeak images/relicensing
To: Walter Bender <walter.bender(a)gmail.com>
Cc: Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de>
Hi, Walter -
Here is a copy of my message to Jose.
-- Kim
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Kim Rose <kim.rose(a)vpri.org>
> Date: April 4, 2008 9:18:11 AM PDT
> To: José L. Redrejo Rodríguez <jredrejo(a)edu.juntaextremadura.net>
> Cc: Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de>, Yoshiki Ohshima <yoshiki(a)vpri.org>, Craig Latta <craig(a)netjam.org>, Kim Rose <kim(a)vpri.org>
> Subject: Squeak images/relicensing
>
> Hi, Jose -
>
> I hope you and your family are all doing well.
>
> I have seen the recent exchange of email between you and others regarding the relicensing effort of Squeak to the MIT License. I can see you are mostly up to date with what is going on. However, as Bert has requested I wanted to write to you directly and confirm Bert's most recent responses.
>
>
> -----------
> Jose:
>
>>
>> Can you confirm me that the code that has not been relicensed has been
>> removed from the olpc image?
>>
>
> Bert:
>
> No. But VPRI as the original authors take responsibility for the earlier contributions made under the Squeak License. VPRI made every justifiable effort to contact the contributors. Not a single contributor was against relicensing, so it is safe to assume that even those that could not be reached would be happy to see their code continue to be used. They submitted it for official inclusion in Squeak, after all. So who would argue that, if not the contributors themselves?
>
> ----------
>
> As Bert says VPRI spearheaded an effort to contact *every* contributor to the Squeak code base. We did not receive a single negative response and have a notebook with 100s of signed re-licensing agreements. We also put out several "speak now or forever hold your peace" group emails indicating the relicensing was taking effect and should anyone object to relicensing their code to let us know.
>
> Our attitude is the code IS now relicensed under the MIT license. Should, a contributor, at any time, write to VPRI and request their code be taken out of the code base, we would comply.
>
> Please do not let this interfere with or hold up your efforts.
>
> Thanks again and best regards,
> Kim
>
>
15 years, 9 months
[Fedora-olpc-list] OLPC / Brazil
by Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
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Hello Guys!
My name is Rodrigo Padula, i'm the Fedora Community Manager in the Latin
~ America.
I did many presentations about he OLPC Project in Brazilian events and
now i'm studying about Sugar and XO-Server to develop a webquest
application.
Webquests and Sugar are the focus of my M. Sc. dissertation at Federal
University of Rio de Janeiro.
I would like to contribute more with the project here! So, how i can
help this project ?
Saudações livres!
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Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ
Fedora Community Manager - Latin America
http://www.proyectofedora.org
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15 years, 9 months
[Fedora-olpc-list] introduction and a question
by Walter Bender
I'm Walter Bender, one of the founders of Sugar Labs
(http://sugarlabs.org). I'm excited that there Fedora community is
rallying around OLPC and consequently Sugar.
My question is in regards to packaging Squeak/Etoys for Fedora.
believe that there has been an open ticket regarding this for quite
some time (it is on the Package Maintainers Wishlist under OLPC, but
would be of more general applicability as well). Any advice as to how
to move things forward?
regards.
-walter
15 years, 9 months
[Fedora-olpc-list] Review and sponsorship request
by Daniel Drake
Hi,
Quick intro: I'm an intern at OLPC, working on bug fixing for our
upcoming v8.2.0 release.
Some of my work has touched upon distro-related issues and I am held
back through not having Fedora developer access.
Is there anyone available to review my-first-spec-file and sponsor me to
become a developer? I do not have a great deal of Fedora experience but
have been involved with Gentoo Linux development for a few years, so I
know the importance of being very careful with packaging and asking lots
of questions.
Here's the bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454329
I am dsd_ in #fedora-devel
Thanks!
Daniel
15 years, 9 months
[Fedora-olpc-list] re: Announcing the Fedora OLPC Special Interest Group
by Greg Smith
Hi Greg D et al,
Thanks a lot for your help in taking on the challenge!
Let me know what you need and how I can help.
You can see an overview of our XO release plan at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Releases
FYI we have some job openings people may want to consider at:
http://laptop.org/en/jobs.shtml
I'm on the list (daily batch mode) now so I'll try to stay in the loop,
but don't hesitate to contact me directly if you need anything.
Thanks,
Greg Smith
OLPC Product Manager
**********************************
- *From*: Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk redhat com>
- *To*: fedora-announce-list redhat com
- *Subject*: Announcing the Fedora OLPC Special Interest Group
- *Date*: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:20:54 -0400 (EDT)
------------------------------
The engineers at OLPC are busy building an educational experience for
the kids
of the world. They are basing their excellent work on Fedora. Their time is
stretched perilously thin. Every hour an overworked OLPC engineer spends
doing Fedora work is an hour they could be spending doing something else. We
in the Fedora community can therefore have a huge, direct, and immediate
impact on the success of the OLPC project. Thus, I am proud to announce the
formation of the Fedora OLPC Special Interest Group. Our mission: to provide
the OLPC project with a strong, sustainable, scalable, community-driven base
platform for innovation.
Immediate Goals:
1. To identify and take responsible ownership of as many OLPC base packages
as possible. 2. To maintain an excellent Sugar environment for Fedora,
including a dedicated Sugar spin. 3. To identify useful opportunities for
collaboration (infrastructure, localization, etc.) We should convene our
first meeting as soon as possible. If you are interested in participating,
please join the Fedora OLPC mailing list here and introduce yourself:
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list
--g
15 years, 9 months
