New release of F11 for the XO-1 is available for testing - OS13

[Steven M. Parrish]

OS13 is now available for testing.

It is available for download at http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish

Installation instructions are here  
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1#Installation_instructions

I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to test these releases.  We 
are getting close to an Final and Official release, and without your help 
would not have made it to this point.

Steven
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powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

[Paul Fox]

steven m. parrish wrote:
>  OS13 is now available for testing. 
excellent stuff!

i'm sorry i didn't get a chance to try os12, but i just installed
os13.

suspend/resume, and powerd, seem to be working mostly fine, as far as
i've tested.  (which wasn't all that far.)

there are a few things i noticed that are a bit of a concern, and
arise directly from me having been concentrating entirely on XO-1.5,
and not considering the effects of some changes on XO-1.

    - the sleep/dim/blank timers are tuned for XO-1.5.  in os13 sleep
	 happens in 15 seconds, dim happens 45s later, and blank
	 happens 3 minutes after that.  this behavior is quite
	 different than anything we've shipped on XO-1 before --
	 previously we dimmed, then slept.  (and never blanked, though
	 we would have liked to.)  the only effects of this change i've
	 seen so far is that the wakeup-on-keystroke delay is more
	 noticeable than XO-1.5 (obviously), and on the network view,
	 the access points seem to all disappear more often than they
	 used to.  i haven't looked at why that last thing happens. 
	 it's certainly annoying.  since i think the wlan card stays
	 powered, i don't really understand it.

    - the "config_MESH_DURING_SUSPEND" setting is set to "no", which
	means the wireless won't stay on when the laptop is sleeping.
	i think ohmd runs some code to decide whether it should leave
	mesh active or not -- there are "todo" comments to that effect
	in powerd, but i've never looked at it further.  i don't know
	if the "relay mesh for others while sleeping" feature is used
	in the field -- i suspect not.

    - powerd now integrates most of olpc-pwr-log, which will let us
	gather battery and charging data from the field much more
	readily.  i don't know that we necessarily want to run this on
	XO-1 all the time -- it's definitely not free in terms of cpu
	(even if it only runs every minute or so), or disk.  the logs
	it keeps (which start out in /var/log, and are moved to
	/home/olpc/olpc-pwr-log) may take more space than XO-1 users
	would like to give up.  (currently capped at 10M)

    - in the next releases of powerd, there are even more changes
	surrounding wake-on-wlan that may have an effect on XO-1. 
	i'll try and be more proactive about keeping XO-1 working, but
	it will have to be lower priority than XO-1.5, at least for a
	while.


in any case, all of this points at having separate default
configurations for powerd on XO-1 and XO-1.5.  i guess this should be
handled by the rpm install -- but i'm not sure how.  (help
appreciated.)

thanks again for all your great work!

paul
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powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

[Mathieu Bridon]

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 16:42, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt; wrote:
>  steven m. parrish wrote:
>   > OS13 is now available for testing. 
I just tried it and am encountering a very annoying issue: if I don't
do anything, the screen dims, and everything just freezes this way.
Screen remains dim, keyboard and mouse don't respond.

Is this a known issue? Any idea how I could help debugging it?


----------
Mathieu Bridon

powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

[Paul Fox]

mathieu wrote:
>  On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 16:42, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
> wrote:
>  > steven m. parrish wrote:
>  > ��> OS13 is now available for testing.
>  
>  I just tried it and am encountering a very annoying issue: if I don't
>  do anything, the screen dims, and everything just freezes this way.
>  Screen remains dim, keyboard and mouse don't respond.
>  
>  Is this a known issue? Any idea how I could help debugging it? 
can you recover at all?   if so, a copy of the output of dmesg
would probably be helpful.  probably most helpful if it were
attached to a trac ticket.  i don't know how f11-on-xo1 tickets
are being filed, though.

oh.  wait.  i just went and fetch my os13 machine, and sure enough --
it's completely locked up.  :-/  it wasn't, earlier.

i'll look into it, but a dmesg from you would be useful in any
case, if you can get it.

i know there's been some churn in the XO-1 wireless area, to
get suspend/resume working.  should i still be seeing this in the
logs? 

....
[  166.626628] usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[  166.788820] libertas: Not issuing HOST_SLEEP_CFG on XO-1
[  166.794406] PM: Finishing wakeup.
[  166.797732] Restarting tasks ... done.
[  171.336902] libertas: command 0x000b timed out
[  171.341449] libertas: requeueing command 0x000b due to timeout (#1)
[  174.346795] libertas: command 0x000b timed out
[  174.351343] libertas: requeueing command 0x000b due to timeout (#2)
[  177.356689] libertas: command 0x000b timed out
[  177.361236] libertas: requeueing command 0x000b due to timeout (#3)
[  180.366585] libertas: command 0x000b timed out
[  180.371131] libertas: Excessive timeouts submitting command 0x000b
[  180.376495] Resetting OLPC wireless via EC...
[  180.386912] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3
[  180.391514] libertas: PREP_CMD: command 0x000b failed: -110
[  180.473533] libertas: SCAN_CMD failed
[  182.757118] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[  182.920801] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[  182.937592] usb 1-1: firmware: requesting usb8388.bin
[  183.743575] usb8xxx: Firmware ready event received
[  183.750328] libertas: 00:17:c4:0d:27:d0, fw 5.110.22p23, cap 0x000003a3
[  183.768505] libertas: eth0: Marvell WLAN 802.11 adapter
[  183.775009] libertas: Not issuing HOST_SLEEP_CFG on XO-1
[  183.780996] libertas: PREP_CMD: command 0x0074 failed: 2
[  183.786319] usb8xxx: Firmware does not seem to support PS mode
[  188.358189] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[  198.903425] msh0: no IPv6 routers present
[  205.829492] olpc-pm:  SCI 0x4 received
[  205.836519] olpc-pm:  SCI 0x0 received
[  211.508645] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[  222.186771] eth0: no IPv6 routers present


paul
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powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

[Paul Fox]

i wrote:
>  mathieu wrote:
>   > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 16:42, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt; wrote:
>   > > steven m. parrish wrote:
>   > > ��> OS13 is now available for testing.
>   > 
>   > I just tried it and am encountering a very annoying issue: if I don't
>   > do anything, the screen dims, and everything just freezes this way.
>   > Screen remains dim, keyboard and mouse don't respond.
>   > 
>   > Is this a known issue? Any idea how I could help debugging it?
>  
>  can you recover at all?   if so, a copy of the output of dmesg
>  would probably be helpful.  probably most helpful if it were
>  attached to a trac ticket.  i don't know how f11-on-xo1 tickets
>  are being filed, though.
>  
>  oh.  wait.  i just went and fetch my os13 machine, and sure enough --
>  it's completely locked up.  :-/  it wasn't, earlier. 
i don't know that it's the same lockup, but i've just filed #10090,
with full dmesg log.  (captured via serial)

paul
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powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

[Daniel Drake]

On 27 March 2010 09:42, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt; wrote:
>  in any case, all of this points at having separate default
>  configurations for powerd on XO-1 and XO-1.5.  i guess this should be
>  handled by the rpm install -- but i'm not sure how.  (help
>  appreciated.) 
It can't be done cleanly in RPM install, since the RPM is installed on
a computer that makes the build, not on an XO.

More realistic options would be runtime detection, or overriding the
powerd config from the xo1-specific module in the build system. And
there are probably others.

Daniel

powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

[Paul Fox]

daniel wrote:
>  On 27 March 2010 09:42, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt; wrote:
>  > in any case, all of this points at having separate default
>  > configurations for powerd on XO-1 and XO-1.5.  i guess this should be
>  > handled by the rpm install -- but i'm not sure how.  (help
>  > appreciated.)
>  
>  It can't be done cleanly in RPM install, since the RPM is installed on
>  a computer that makes the build, not on an XO. 
good point.  thanks.

paul

>  
>  More realistic options would be runtime detection, or overriding the
>  powerd config from the xo1-specific module in the build system. And
>  there are probably others.
>  
>  Daniel 
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powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

[Mikus Grinbergs]

Disclaimer:  I am not asking for help:  I am sharing my experiences.

I've gotten gun-shy regarding suspend.  Accordingly, when I flashed os13
and first booted it (not having experienced any problems bringing it up)
I immediately went into My Settings and turned off the checkmark for
power management.   I then customized the os13 build (which involved a
couple of reboots), including modifying /etc/powerd/powerd.conf values.
[My values dim before blanking, blank before sleeping, and inhibit
power-down while connected to AC.]

I then noticed that os13 came with olpc-powerd-13.  I used yum update to
install olpc-powerd-15 (keeping my own powerd.conf values).  Again, no
problems with system behavior (nor with reboot).

Having read the various posts regarding suspend on os13, I put the
checkmark for power management back into My Settings.  I let my system
(with powerd-15) go into "hard sleep" (screen dark, power led pulsing).
 A touch on the native keyboard brought the XO-1 back to life.


My conclusion:  I have no problems using suspend on os13.  What I have
run so far on os13 leads me to consider this release as completely usable.

mikus

powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

Em 27-03-2010 22:23, Mikus Grinbergs escreveu:
>  Disclaimer:  I am not asking for help:  I am sharing my experiences.
>  
>  I've gotten gun-shy regarding suspend.  Accordingly, when I flashed os13
>  and first booted it (not having experienced any problems bringing it up)
>  I immediately went into My Settings and turned off the checkmark for
>  power management.   I then customized the os13 build (which involved a
>  couple of reboots), including modifying /etc/powerd/powerd.conf values.
>  [My values dim before blanking, blank before sleeping, and inhibit
>  power-down while connected to AC.]
>  
>  I then noticed that os13 came with olpc-powerd-13.  I used yum update to
>  install olpc-powerd-15 (keeping my own powerd.conf values).  Again, no
>  problems with system behavior (nor with reboot).
>  
>  Having read the various posts regarding suspend on os13, I put the
>  checkmark for power management back into My Settings.  I let my system
>  (with powerd-15) go into "hard sleep" (screen dark, power led pulsing).
>   A touch on the native keyboard brought the XO-1 back to life.
>  
>  
>  My conclusion:  I have no problems using suspend on os13.  What I have
>  run so far on os13 leads me to consider this release as completely usable. 
My weirdness with networking was, perhaps, due to this issue.

Where did you get olpc-powerd-15 from?

Thanks,
Rui

[Yioryos Asprobounitis]

Too many builds and only one XO-1 :-)
Is there any priority?
Is testing os115-py immediately applicable to os13 and vice versa?

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Steven M. Parrish <smparrish(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  From: Steven M. Parrish <smparrish(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Subject: New release of F11 for the XO-1 is available for testing  - OS13
>  To: "fedora-olpc-list" <fedora-olpc-list(a)redhat.com&gt;, "OLPC
> Devel" <devel(a)lists.laptop.org&gt;, "Sugar Development"
> <sugar-devel(a)lists.sugarlabs.org&gt;, devel-announce(a)lists.laptop.org,
> testing(a)lists.laptop.org
>  Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 8:53 AM
>  OS13 is now available for testing.
>  
>  It is available for download at http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish
>  
>  Installation instructions are here  
>  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1#Installation_instructions
>  
>  I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to test
>  these releases.  We 
>  are getting close to an Final and Official release, and
>  without your help 
>  would not have made it to this point.
>  
>  Steven
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[Bernie Innocenti]

On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 10:12 -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote:

>  Too many builds and only one XO-1 :-)
>  Is there any priority? 
We'll deploy this to ~4000 kids really-soon-now. Bugs reported within
1-2 weeks have a chance of being fixed in time.


>  Is testing os115-py immediately applicable to os13 and vice versa?
They should already be very similar, and we're going to merge as much as
possible.

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[Yioryos Asprobounitis]

Both F11-XO1/os13 and os115-py are using the same custom kernel. However, kernel headers
are not included, so trying to yum install compiling packages (gcc/make)  you get the
fedora 2.6.30 kernel headers instead. 
Maybe an appropriate repo should be included, if not the olpc one, or at least some way to
get point to kernel headers, sources etc

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Steven M. Parrish <smparrish(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  From: Steven M. Parrish <smparrish(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Subject: New release of F11 for the XO-1 is available for testing  - OS13
>  To: "fedora-olpc-list" <fedora-olpc-list(a)redhat.com&gt;, "OLPC
> Devel" <devel(a)lists.laptop.org&gt;, "Sugar Development"
> <sugar-devel(a)lists.sugarlabs.org&gt;, devel-announce(a)lists.laptop.org,
> testing(a)lists.laptop.org
>  Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 8:53 AM
>  OS13 is now available for testing.
>  
>  It is available for download at http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish
>  
>  Installation instructions are here  
>  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1#Installation_instructions
>  
>  I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to test
>  these releases.  We 
>  are getting close to an Final and Official release, and
>  without your help 
>  would not have made it to this point.
>  
>  Steven
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[Mikus Grinbergs]

Steven -  your builds (as released) continue to leave out the entries
for http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~dsd/repos/f11/ and ../f11-xo1/  from
/etc/yum.repos.d/   That has the effect of "freezing" the XO-1 services
levels of your builds -- when potential newly-committed XO-1 rpms cannot
be applied on-the-fly.  Was that your intent ?

Also, os13 came with a NetworkManager dated 2009/12/23.  Was the newer
F12 NetworkManager dated 2010/02/25 (and available in updates-testing)
left deliberately out of os13 ?

mikus

[Bernie Innocenti]

On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 17:01 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
>  Steven -  your builds (as released) continue to leave out the
> entries
>  for http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~dsd/repos/f11/ and ../f11-xo1/  from
>  /etc/yum.repos.d/   That has the effect of "freezing" the XO-1 services
>  levels of your builds -- when potential newly-committed XO-1 rpms cannot
>  be applied on-the-fly.  Was that your intent ? 
These repositories are created by aggregating public_rpms directories of
multiple developers. These packages are often fresh from rpmbuild and
totally untested on the XO-1.

I discussed this with cjb, and he recommended that stable build
pin-point packages manually from a stable repository instead.


>  Also, os13 came with a NetworkManager dated 2009/12/23.  Was the
> newer
>  F12 NetworkManager dated 2010/02/25 (and available in updates-testing)
>  left deliberately out of os13 ? 
The 20100225 version crashes on resume from suspend:

  http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-February/thread.html#27505

Martin Abente of Paraguay Educa has been working on a fix.

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[Mikus Grinbergs]

Thanks for explaining about os13 not using the Feb 2010 NetworkManager.

Another question, if I may -- os13 comes with a 2010/03/13 XO-1 kernel
(commit bfcaa33).  Is it ok to install the newer 2010/03/22 XO-1 kernel
(commit 3f93d90) in my os13 system ?

mikus

[Bernie Innocenti]

On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 15:51 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
>  Another question, if I may -- os13 comes with a 2010/03/13 XO-1
> kernel
>  (commit bfcaa33).  Is it ok to install the newer 2010/03/22 XO-1 kernel
>  (commit 3f93d90) in my os13 system ? 
Please try and let me know. I froze on that version because some XO-1
specific bugs had appeared in the following revisions. Those may have
gone by now.

To install a kernel on the XO-1, you need to do some trickery:

  rpm -i kernel-*
  rsync -a /boot/ /versions/running/boot/

This is due to the odd filesystem layout used to implement the alternate
boot scheme (I wonder how many people actually use it and if it's still
worth keeping).

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[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

Em 27-03-2010 12:53, Steven M. Parrish escreveu:
>  OS13 is now available for testing.
>  
>  It is available for download at http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish
>  
>  Installation instructions are here  
>  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1#Installation_instructions
>  
>  I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to test these releases.  We 
>  are getting close to an Final and Official release, and without your help 
>  would not have made it to this point. 
Nice to see LXDE battery now being able to read OLPC battery :)

Sadly, CPU bound actions seems to affect wifi even worse than before.

Example: it's very hard for me to "yum install anything" since wifi just
dies, then after a long while comes back, slowly...

I'm being more carefull noting down what I did to get an lxde desktop
environment as it may be useful for others.

Rui

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

Em 10-04-2010 11:48, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escreveu:
>  Em 27-03-2010 12:53, Steven M. Parrish escreveu:
> > OS13 is now available for testing.
> >
> > It is available for download at http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish
> >
> > Installation instructions are here  
> > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1#Installation_instructions
> >
> > I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to test these releases.  We 
> > are getting close to an Final and Official release, and without your help 
> > would not have made it to this point. 
>  Sadly, CPU bound actions seems to affect wifi even worse than
> before.
>  
>  Example: it's very hard for me to "yum install anything" since wifi just
>  dies, then after a long while comes back, slowly... 
Sorry, it seems to be periodical and not cpu bound, as it happened while
it was idle. Unsure if it's a regular period or not.

Rui

[Paul Fox]

rui miguel silva seabra wrote:
>  Em 27-03-2010 12:53, Steven M. Parrish escreveu:
>  > OS13 is now available for testing.
>  > 
>  > It is available for download at http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish
>  > 
>  > Installation instructions are here  
>  > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1#Installation_instructions
>  > 
>  > I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to test these releases.  We 
>  > are getting close to an Final and Official release, and without your help 
>  > would not have made it to this point.
>  
>  Nice to see LXDE battery now being able to read OLPC battery :)
>  
>  Sadly, CPU bound actions seems to affect wifi even worse than before.
>  
>  Example: it's very hard for me to "yum install anything" since wifi just
>  dies, then after a long while comes back, slowly... 
are you sure the laptop isn't simply suspending?  i've not heard
of cpu activity causing wifi outages before.

paul
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[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

Em 12-04-2010 15:15, Paul Fox escreveu:
>  rui miguel silva seabra wrote:
>   > Em 27-03-2010 12:53, Steven M. Parrish escreveu:
>   > > OS13 is now available for testing.
>   > > 
>   > > It is available for download at http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish
>   > > 
>   > > Installation instructions are here  
>   > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1#Installation_instructions
>   > > 
>   > > I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to test these releases.  We 
>   > > are getting close to an Final and Official release, and without your help 
>   > > would not have made it to this point.
>   > 
>   > Nice to see LXDE battery now being able to read OLPC battery :)
>   > 
>   > Sadly, CPU bound actions seems to affect wifi even worse than before.
>   > 
>   > Example: it's very hard for me to "yum install anything" since wifi
> just
>   > dies, then after a long while comes back, slowly...
>  
>  are you sure the laptop isn't simply suspending?  i've not heard
>  of cpu activity causing wifi outages before. 
In a later email, same day, about 6h later, I understood it as a problem
with the sleep mode, which happened after 15 s of idle.

I postponed sleep to way after blank and now it's usable.

Rui

[Paul Fox]

rui miguel silva seabra wrote:
>  Em 12-04-2010 15:15, Paul Fox escreveu:
>  > rui miguel silva seabra wrote:
>  >  > Em 27-03-2010 12:53, Steven M. Parrish escreveu:
>  >  > > OS13 is now available for testing.
>  >  > > 
>  >  > > It is available for download at http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish
>  >  > > 
>  >  > > Installation instructions are here  
>  >  > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1#Installation_instructions
>  >  > > 
>  >  > > I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to test these releases. 
>
>  We 
>  >  > > are getting close to an Final and Official release, and without your 
>  help 
>  >  > > would not have made it to this point.
>  >  > 
>  >  > Nice to see LXDE battery now being able to read OLPC battery :)
>  >  > 
>  >  > Sadly, CPU bound actions seems to affect wifi even worse than before.
>  >  > 
>  >  > Example: it's very hard for me to "yum install anything" since
> wifi just
>  >  > dies, then after a long while comes back, slowly...
>  > 
>  > are you sure the laptop isn't simply suspending?  i've not heard
>  > of cpu activity causing wifi outages before.
>  
>  In a later email, same day, about 6h later, I understood it as a problem
>  with the sleep mode, which happened after 15 s of idle.
>  
>  I postponed sleep to way after blank and now it's usable. 
good.  the latest version of powerd contains code to monitor
network usage, and to make a guess as to whether it's okay to
suspend.  on XO-1.5 it seems to make yum work without extra
effort.  i've not been able to test this on XO-1, so if someone
could do that, i'd appreciate it.  (a yum update of olpc-powerd
may work, or, fetch olpc-powerd-18 from http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/rpms.)
the feature depends on the presence of iptables, so if that's not
there it won't work.

paul
=---------------------
 paul fox, pgf(a)laptop.org

[Yioryos Asprobounitis]

--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt; wrote:

>  From: Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
>  Subject: Re: New release of F11 for the XO-1 is available for testing - OS13
>  
>  good.  the latest version of powerd contains code to
>  monitor
>  network usage, and to make a guess as to whether it's okay
>  to
>  suspend.  on XO-1.5 it seems to make yum work without
>  extra
>  effort.  i've not been able to test this on XO-1, so
>  if someone
>  could do that, i'd appreciate it.  (a yum update of
>  olpc-powerd
>  may work, or, fetch olpc-powerd-18 from http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/rpms.)
>  the feature depends on the presence of iptables, so if
>  that's not
>  there it won't work. 
A bit off topic but I tried kbdshim12/powerd18 on os140py.
No luck.
Behaves similar to os13 (see
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/olpc/2010-March/002301.html )

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[Paul Fox]

yioryos wrote:
>  
>  
>  --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > From: Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
>  > Subject: Re: New release of F11 for the XO-1 is available for testing - OS13
>  > 
>  > good.  the latest version of powerd contains code to
>  > monitor
>  > network usage, and to make a guess as to whether it's okay
>  > to
>  > suspend.  on XO-1.5 it seems to make yum work without
>  > extra
>  > effort.  i've not been able to test this on XO-1, so
>  > if someone
>  > could do that, i'd appreciate it.  (a yum update of
>  > olpc-powerd
>  > may work, or, fetch olpc-powerd-18 from http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/rpms.)
>  > the feature depends on the presence of iptables, so if
>  > that's not
>  > there it won't work.
>  
>  A bit off topic but I tried kbdshim12/powerd18 on os140py.
>  No luck.
>  Behaves similar to os13 (see 
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/olpc/2010-March/002301.html ) 
i see.  i thought the suspend/resume issues had been fixed in the most
recent XO-1 kernels.  perhaps that's not the case.

paul
=---------------------
 paul fox, pgf(a)laptop.org

[Yioryos Asprobounitis]

--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt; wrote:

>  From: Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
>  Subject: Re: New release of F11 for the XO-1 is available for testing - OS13
>  To: "Yioryos Asprobounitis" <mavrothal(a)yahoo.com&gt;
>  Cc: olpc(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 11:57 AM
>  yioryos wrote:
>   > 
>   > 
>   > --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
>  wrote:
>   > 
>   > > From: Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
>   > > Subject: Re: New release of F11 for the XO-1 is
>  available for testing - OS13
>   > > 
>   > > good.  the latest version of powerd
>  contains code to
>   > > monitor
>   > > network usage, and to make a guess as to whether
>  it's okay
>   > > to
>   > > suspend.  on XO-1.5 it seems to make yum
>  work without
>   > > extra
>   > > effort.  i've not been able to test this on
>  XO-1, so
>   > > if someone
>   > > could do that, i'd appreciate it.  (a yum
>  update of
>   > > olpc-powerd
>   > > may work, or, fetch olpc-powerd-18 from http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/rpms.)
>   > > the feature depends on the presence of iptables,
>  so if
>   > > that's not
>   > > there it won't work.
>   > 
>   > A bit off topic but I tried kbdshim12/powerd18 on
>  os140py.
>   > No luck.
>   > Behaves similar to os13 (see 
>   > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/olpc/2010-March/002301.html
>  )
>  
>  i see.  i thought the suspend/resume issues had been
>  fixed in the most
>  recent XO-1 kernels.  perhaps that's not the case.
>   
os140py is using a custom kernel with many more additional goodies and some
debugging/controls off, so... 

>  paul
>  =---------------------
>   paul fox, pgf(a)laptop.org
>