Study Abroad with a Fedora twist

[Mel Chua]

Just had a thought - something Ambassadors typically *can't* do, but 
campus ambassadors may be able to do far more easily.

Ambassador Exchange Programmes.

One thing I've seen come up time and time again is the communication gap 
between different language/geo subcommunities in Fedora - most people 
from EMEA can't read the Spanish-language LATAM lists, people in LATAM 
don't know what's happening in APAC because they can't understand IRC 
channels in Chinese, folks from APAC can't afford to fly to NA events, 
and so on...

Some folks already try to bridge these various subcommunities, which is 
fantastic. We need more! It would be great if we could do a 
cultural/linguistic exchange between geographies to grow the number of 
people who have relationships that straddle both sides.

The trouble is that it's it's tough for an Ambassador with a job and a 
family to uproot him/herself to go volunteer on the other side of the 
world for 6 months. It's a lot easier for a student to do it; in fact, 
there are tons of credit-granting programs for it that are actively 
encouraged by our schools. It's called Study Abroad.

What if we used this as an opportunity to expand not just our own 
cultural/linguistic horizons, but that of the local Fedora community we 
come from, and the one we're going to? I'm not sure what this means or 
where it could go, and haven't thought this through that much - but 
wanted to toss it out there for feedback/thoughts/criticism.

Also, what *other* resources do students have access to that most 
Ambassadors do not? Access to facilities is the only other thing that 
comes to mind right now.

Just braindumping. :)

--Mel

[Qi Yang Er]

That's a very good idea. At my campus, we have students going on exchange
programme as far as Europe and US. It would be wonderful if a campus
ambassador is able to go on such exchange and meet up with his peer on other
campus.

I was thinking, such exchange need not necessarily be 6months long.
Especially for students, even a 2 week long exchange can go a long way in
forging friendship with fellow ambassador.

On Dec 18, 2009 8:32 AM, "Mel Chua" <mel(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

Just had a thought - something Ambassadors typically *can't* do, but
campus ambassadors may be able to do far more easily.

Ambassador Exchange Programmes.

One thing I've seen come up time and time again is the communication gap
between different language/geo subcommunities in Fedora - most people
from EMEA can't read the Spanish-language LATAM lists, people in LATAM
don't know what's happening in APAC because they can't understand IRC
channels in Chinese, folks from APAC can't afford to fly to NA events,
and so on...

Some folks already try to bridge these various subcommunities, which is
fantastic. We need more! It would be great if we could do a
cultural/linguistic exchange between geographies to grow the number of
people who have relationships that straddle both sides.

The trouble is that it's it's tough for an Ambassador with a job and a
family to uproot him/herself to go volunteer on the other side of the
world for 6 months. It's a lot easier for a student to do it; in fact,
there are tons of credit-granting programs for it that are actively
encouraged by our schools. It's called Study Abroad.

What if we used this as an opportunity to expand not just our own
cultural/linguistic horizons, but that of the local Fedora community we
come from, and the one we're going to? I'm not sure what this means or
where it could go, and haven't thought this through that much - but
wanted to toss it out there for feedback/thoughts/criticism.

Also, what *other* resources do students have access to that most
Ambassadors do not? Access to facilities is the only other thing that
comes to mind right now.

Just braindumping. :)

--Mel
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[Anissa Fakhfakh]

Hi,
I think it would be a good idea,
but need to be well studied. We may think of students exchange within
families; that is each student from one campus will receive his peer (within
his/her family) from the other campus for a week or 2, or more. and then
vice versa. This may reduce costs for the operation of exchange, and make
better relationships within fedora local communities.

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[Francesco Ugolini]

The idea sounds good. I don't want to use, during a brainstormin
process, some "kill words" (words that brake the ideas flow).

Can rh or other sponsor found this?

I don't know if there are people ready to spend for an accomodation
and for all the connected costs (we are talking about thusands
dollars).

Will this idea be open for everyone or to whom it can afford it?

BTW, you have my support for this initiative.

Regards

Francesco


2009/12/18, Mel Chua <mel(a)redhat.com&gt;:
>  Just had a thought - something Ambassadors typically *can't* do,
> but
>  campus ambassadors may be able to do far more easily.
>
>  Ambassador Exchange Programmes.
>
>  One thing I've seen come up time and time again is the communication gap
>  between different language/geo subcommunities in Fedora - most people
>  from EMEA can't read the Spanish-language LATAM lists, people in LATAM
>  don't know what's happening in APAC because they can't understand IRC
>  channels in Chinese, folks from APAC can't afford to fly to NA events,
>  and so on...
>
>  Some folks already try to bridge these various subcommunities, which is
>  fantastic. We need more! It would be great if we could do a
>  cultural/linguistic exchange between geographies to grow the number of
>  people who have relationships that straddle both sides.
>
>  The trouble is that it's it's tough for an Ambassador with a job and a
>  family to uproot him/herself to go volunteer on the other side of the
>  world for 6 months. It's a lot easier for a student to do it; in fact,
>  there are tons of credit-granting programs for it that are actively
>  encouraged by our schools. It's called Study Abroad.
>
>  What if we used this as an opportunity to expand not just our own
>  cultural/linguistic horizons, but that of the local Fedora community we
>  come from, and the one we're going to? I'm not sure what this means or
>  where it could go, and haven't thought this through that much - but
>  wanted to toss it out there for feedback/thoughts/criticism.
>
>  Also, what *other* resources do students have access to that most
>  Ambassadors do not? Access to facilities is the only other thing that
>  comes to mind right now.
>
>  Just braindumping. :)
>
>  --Mel
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[Max Spevack]

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Francesco Ugolini wrote:

>  The idea sounds good. I don't want to use, during a brainstormin
>
>  process, some "kill words" (words that brake the ideas flow).
>
>  Can rh or other sponsor found this?
>
>  I don't know if there are people ready to spend for an accomodation 
>  and for all the connected costs (we are talking about thusands 
>  dollars).
>
>  Will this idea be open for everyone or to whom it can afford it? 
If we are smart about the way the idea is put together, the Community 
Architecture team should be able to throw some funding at this.  We'd 
just have to be smart about what we do, and what the results of it are.

There is precedent.  CommArch has helped on a number of occasions to get 
Dimitris and Diego into the same place for a period of time, and the 
benefit to Transifex and thus to Fedora has been enormous.

--Max

[Mel Chua]

On 12/22/2009 09:28 PM, Max Spevack wrote:
>  On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>
> > The idea sounds good. I don't want to use, during a brainstormin
> > process, some "kill words" (words that brake the ideas flow).
> >
> > Can rh or other sponsor found this?
> >
> > I don't know if there are people ready to spend for an accomodation
> > and for all the connected costs (we are talking about thusands dollars).
> >
> > Will this idea be open for everyone or to whom it can afford it?
>
>  If we are smart about the way the idea is put together, the Community
>  Architecture team should be able to throw some funding at this. We'd
>  just have to be smart about what we do, and what the results of it are.
>
>  There is precedent. CommArch has helped on a number of occasions to get
>  Dimitris and Diego into the same place for a period of time, and the
>  benefit to Transifex and thus to Fedora has been enormous.
>
>  --Max 
FWIW, I initially thought of this as something that students who were 
already planning to study abroad could think about adding to their plans.

This does limit the idea, in the beginning, to students who can already 
financially and academically afford to study away (for instance, I would 
probably not have been able to do this myself) but it lets us try the 
idea out without the need for much logistics (or budget) overhead.

The way I thought about it was that this might make a compelling 
addition to Study Abroad applications for schools or internships/co-ops 
- if you can tell an admissions committee about additional cool things 
you'd be able to do if they let you come to their area, they tend to be 
more likely to let you in.

--Mel

[Anissa Fakhfakh]

*Happy New Year 2010*
-- 
Anissa BHAR FAKHFAKH
Technologue Agrégée
ISET Charguia

[Rishabh Tripathi]

Happy New Year 2010

2009/12/31 Anissa Fakhfakh <nanoussa(a)gmail.com&gt;:
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