Frederico, glad to know you are aligned and understands Fedora principles,
The language barrier exist, but always we have been able to overcome them,
we are here to learn from others, and grow as a community. All the involved
countries in Latam have to understand how to work in a multicultural
environment (even in an English native speaker environment), for achieve
that our contributions be global. For me, this thread has been clarified,
and I think we are on the same page.
Cheers.
El mar., 9 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 11:38, Daniel Bruno <
dbruno(a)fedoraproject.org> escribió:
Hi Frederico,
I never retired from the project, I am not contributing to the LATAM
community as Mentor in the Ambassadors team, as I used to do, but I
continue contributing in the packaging team.
Yes, we can chat, ping me on IRC or gtalk.
Regards,
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Frederico Lima <fredlima(a)fedoraproject.org
> wrote:
> Hi Daniel Bruno,
> Nice to meet you.
> Are you back?
>
> Good to see you here.
>
> can we talk later?
>
> --
> Frederico Lima
> fas: fredlima
> fredericolima.com.br
>
> ---- On Ter, 09 mai 2017 09:34:54 -0300 Daniel Bruno <
> dbruno(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote ----
> > Hey guys,
> > I have seen some misunderstanding on this regarding, and I would like
> to give my thoughts, I hope it helps.
> > For some time I thought like Frederico, that Brazil would need some as
> mentor due our cultural and language differences, but after more than 6
> years as Mentor and 8 as Ambassador, I believe that this is not really
> relevant.
> > Is there a language barrier? Yes, but we need to work with this as a
> community by integrating, helping and bringing people together. The
> Mentor's role in our community is to guide the new ambassadors during
> theirs first steps and to advise the others ambassadors, *however* this
> role to guide and help new ambassadors is not limited to the Mentors, if
> someone in Brazil wants to join the ambassadors team and can not
> communicate with a choose Ambassador because of the language, someone in
> Brazil can perfectly help this process, and I believe that this could be a
> opportunity of this new ambassador to get in touch with a new language and
> learn.
> > Every country have their singularities and we must to know how to
> handle it to grow the LATAM region as community and the ambassadors on each
> country have the responsibility deal with the specifically needs from your
> country. Also, think that it as a opportunity to learn rather than an issue
> to give up.
> > To sum up, everyone is LATAM and there is no language barrier stronger
> than collaboration, and in my opinion the candidate's experience and
> availability, are more important than his/her native language.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Frederico Lima <
> fredlima(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Bruno (dbruno)
> >
http://dbruno.org
> >
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> > I know that Echevemaster,
> > Mentors are for the community not for just one country,
> >
> > the problem is with Brazil, our education is very very poor,
> > our politicians only want to get rich and forgets who elected they.
> >
> > 55% of our high school students don't even know how to write
> brazilian portuguese well,
> > we don't even know our native language, much less spanish (or types
> of spanish) or english.
> >
> > I would like so much that we speak natively a highly adopted language
> like spanish in Brazil.
> >
> > But we speak an hard to learn language like brazilian portuguese with
> lots of exceptions in our grammatic.
> >
> > I'm new in Fedora, and I don't have to speak like I did last meeting.
> I'm sorry for that.
> >
> > I'm from Fedora Latam, not just from one country.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > and sorry for my bad english, I will also try to get better with that.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Frederico Lima
> > fas: fredlima
> > fredericolima.com.br
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- On Seg, 08 mai 2017 00:24:03 -0300 Eduardo Javier Echeverria
> Alvarado <echevemaster(a)gmail.com> wrote ----
> > > Eduard, yes decision was taken yesterday, they will be the
> candidates for being the new mentors in Latam, hoping both understand that
> they will not be the mentors of their own countries but whole Latam and
> hoping as well that Federico understands that he is a deputy of Latam in
> Famsco, not in Brazil.
> > > El dom., 7 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 10:34, Frederico Lima <
> fredlima(a)fedoraproject.org> escribió:
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > tickets already voted yesterday, and both approved.
> > > one new mentor for Peru and another one for Brazil.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Frederico Lima
> > > fas: fredlima
> > > fredericolima.com.br
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- On Sáb, 06 mai 2017 22:09:47 -0300 Eduard Lucena <
> eduardlucena(a)gmail.com> wrote ----
> > > > Hi ambassadors,
> > > >
> > > > I see with sadness today's meeting logs. Words like this:
> > > >
> > > > 23:23:41 <fredlima> echevemaster: you can delay how long
you
> want, but we will make an brazilian mentor.23:23:46 <fredlima> accept that
> > > >
> > > > I think are unacceptable. That is one of the reasons why I
> suggest to discuss the process to candidate mentors [1].
> > > > But it looks like nobody is neither reading emails or
> issues/tickets, and in meetings never is everybody.
> > > >
> > > > I suggest to everybody NOT TO VOTE for mentors until rules are
> set. Now there is already one complaint about one of the candidates and
> this happens because the lack of rules, and this rules needs to be
> established only for our Region.
> > > >
> > > > I will put my suggestions of rules in the ticket 402, I hope
> everyone can follow my lead an we can set the rules in one week.
> > > >
> > > > Br,
> > > > [1]
https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/402
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > GNU/Linux User #589060
> > > > Ubuntu User #8749
> > > > Fedora Ambassador Latam
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