Thanks for changing the name of the event to be more adapted to the event
goal, please create a ticket (if does not exists) for discussing the topic
in the Saturday's meeting,
El jue., 1 de jun. de 2017 a la(s) 22:02, Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis <
alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com> escribió:
Good evening everyone, to avoid the problem of cities where you can
carry
out the FAD I created a new wiki page at the following URL
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Latam_2017 . I added the cheaper costs
of Julita and the costs of Cusco to have everything together.
I changed to chilean representative to Eduard Lucena (X3mboy:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:X3mboy) because he is very active and
works in many groups in the community.
Finally I will update the goals and the agenda tomorrow, I hope to get
positive feedback in the saturday meeting.
Best regards.
Alex Oviedo
El jue., 1 de jun. de 2017 a la(s) 21:34, yrazes <yrazes(a)gmail.com>
escribió:
> OK Neville!
> I sent in the proposal the costs to airport - PUCP, hotels, taxis and
> menus.
> Please tell me what else is needed.
> It is OK for me ;)
> Julita
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Neville Cross <yn1v(a)taygon.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Julita
>>
>> I love the energy that you show toward Fedora Project. I can relate to
>> your position as a power user (but you know much than me), there are
>> areas that require further specialization to be a collaborator. Like to
>> be a packager it is need to know several things beside be good at a
>> programming language. things like git, specs, licenses and also the
>> procedures within the project. I have been there helping you with
>> whatever I can. But this time I feel that you are pushing your event
>> under the name of FAD and you are not paying attention to the fact that
>> FADs are to solve a problem witin Fedora. Several people have mentioned
>> that FAD are not public events. So, please help us a bit. You can do
>> both things but not at the same time. You can make a FAD and you can
>> make a public event, but you can not have both at the same time.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Neville
>>
>> On Tue, 30 May 2017 16:58:32 -0500
>> yrazes <yrazes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Anytime I propose a new event or idea for Fedora, I get a -1 on
>> > Saturday meetings all the time, because Alex always asks for a wiki.
>> >
>> > For this FAD in Peru I was not included at all since the very
>> > beginning, so I though that preparing a proposal for Lima was a
>> > different project because Cusco was so expensive.
>> >
>> > I belong Fedora since 2012, I only attended two Ambassador events,
>> > Fudcon Cusco 2013 and Fudcon Puno 2016 and I did not see real
>> > contribution of people to the project during these events.
>> > In both events, we had Ambassadors with strong expertise and lot of
>> > interested people that would have lead workshops (in my point of
>> > view) to train ourselves or propose better ways to work.
>> >
>> > What I do in my events are installations and user interaction with
>> > Fedora such as using the terminal to run basic admin commands.
>> >
>> > I dared to express my wish in the FAD Lima 2017 proposal for training
>> > people one day because I have young enthusiastic students engaged with
>> > Linux in Lima that I can not mentor in a proper way since I did not
>> > do a real contribution to the Fedora project. I need the help of you
>> > LATAM, and with the experience, I can later start the Fedora Lima
>> > Challenge (in case you approve it).
>> > My local team is aware of this FAD Lima 2017 proposal because I do not
>> > things alone.
>> >
>> > Besides sending options that include the users focus day, I did sent
>> > other there more options without them, that you might take.
>> > In case you want to remove my proposal wiki, is up to you too.
>> > In case you still need a place for FAD in Lima or wherever is going
>> > to be, you have my support.
>> >
>> > Communication is very important in communities and more since we have
>> > different cultures. As GNU/Linux leader in Lima, I want to do positive
>> > things, please do not misunderstood my disclaim.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Julita
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado <
>> > echevemaster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > El dom., 28 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 19:41, Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis
>> > > < alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com> escribió:
>> > >
>> > >> Hello Julita, I wrote you: "send me the costs and I put these
into
>> > >> the proposal" I didn't say in any time that you should
create a
>> > >> new page.
>> > >
>> > > Please, work together, this is the first thing you as a team have
>> > > to do. Learn to don't say "I" and say more "We"
it's a good
>> > > exercise even if you are the only person of a team, this does
>> > > people feeling involved.
>> > >>
>> > >> I am the initial promoter of this proposal and I'm looking for
>> > >> improve and grow the community, since I showed it to the council
>> > >> and famsco I am looking for a consensus between the ambassadors to
>> > >> improve the objectives and agenda but it seems that you intend to
>> > >> impose your criteria creating a new page without asking to others
>> > >> changing the schedule and other aspects as justification, purpose,
>> > >> goals, etc.
>> > >
>> > > I agree with Alex at this point, we want leadership in the people,
>> > > not people attracting attention.
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> Finally, as Alejandro and echevemaster says, the main idea for
>> > >> this FAD is work in fedora related tasks and offer solutions, I
>> > >> put few talks to help to get free venue within universities or
>> > >> other places but no as users centric event.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > If you guys want to include a user component, you can do the same
>> > > that Nicaragua did for invite people to Fudcon, visit some
>> > > universities explaining how it works Fedora community and why is
>> > > interesting belonging it. but please avoid become it in the main
>> > > goal of the event -
>> > >>
>> > >> El dom., 28 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 19:27, Anthony Mogrovejo <
>> > >> tony001983(a)gmail.com> escribió:
>> > >>
>> > >>> +1@echevemaster
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> El 28 may. 2017 7:01 p. m., "Eduardo Javier Echeverria
Alvarado"
>> > >>> < echevemaster(a)gmail.com> escribió:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> El sáb., 27 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 22:19, yrazes
>> > >>> <yrazes(a)gmail.com> escribió:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Hello LATAM and bex:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I have facilities to celebrate the event in two private
>> > >>>> universities in Lima such as PUCP and USIL.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks for that.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Based on the prices that you can see on the wiki, I think
the
>> > >>>> best possibility is PUCP.
>> > >>>> I dared to include outdoor activities to my guests and also
a
>> > >>>> public event to train new possible contributors in Lima
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> This is not a user event, this is a Fedora Activity Day, we
don't
>> > >>> will have talks neither workshops, we will work in fedora
related
>> > >>> tasks and offer solutions, so, please don't invite people
outside
>> > >>> to the FAD. We need be focused.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> In case the majority of people do not agree, I also present
3
>> > >>>> more options because I know that I have to reduce prices
for FAD.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Cusco2017
>> > >>>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Lima2017
>> > >>> Please remove one of the wiki pages, this could be lead to
>> > >>> misunderstandings
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Lima2017
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Please feel free to comment and tell me how to make it
better to
>> > >>>> everyone.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks for offering yourself for be one of the FAD organisers
>> > >>> along with
>> > >>>> Alex y Tonet, I'm sure you guys will do great, just
join efforts
>> > >>>> and keep the communication to be on the same page.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>> Julita
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:00 PM, yrazes
<yrazes(a)gmail.com>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>> OK I will send the proposal for Lima to be the
organizer of FAD
>> > >>>>> Lima 2017.
>> > >>>>> It is OK that Tonet could be the Peru representative.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>> Julita
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Alex Irmel Oviedo
Solis <
>> > >>>>> alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Good night, Yulytas, the actual proposal for Cusco
is
>> > >>>>>> expensive, the council and famsco recomend evaluate
the
>> > >>>>>> posibility to change the place to Lima (the
airfares can be
>> > >>>>>> cheaper but the hotel and food will be more
expensive than
>> > >>>>>> Cusco) for that reason We need your help to get the
prices to
>> > >>>>>> do this evaluation.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> About your second question, We need a one
representative by
>> > >>>>>> country, specially an influential and active
ambassador. I
>> > >>>>>> choosed to Tonet because he is an active
ambassador, organized
>> > >>>>>> a FUDCon and has more badges in Peru. You can
participate like
>> > >>>>>> observer, I will participate as helper only.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Regards
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> El jue., 25 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 18:02, Anthony
Mogrovejo
>> > >>>>>> < tony001983(a)gmail.com> escribió:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> -1
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> El 25 may. 2017 5:50 p. m., "yrazes"
<yrazes(a)gmail.com>
>> > >>>>>>> escribió:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Ok Alejandro, Bex and Lucena.
>> > >>>>>>> I have seen recently the link that Alex just
gave me
>> > >>>>>>>
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Cusco2017
>> > >>>>>>> It seems that everything is already arranged,
including
>> > >>>>>>> topics and costs.
>> > >>>>>>> In that case I do not see why I have to arrange
a FAD in USIL.
>> > >>>>>>> Can I add my name on it to participate on
July?
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>>> Julita
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Alex Irmel
Oviedo Solis <
>> > >>>>>>> alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Hello all, I think is a good moment to
clarify some things.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I looked some FAD pages and it's true
that these activities
>> > >>>>>>>> hasn't a promotional component (talks
or workshops) but in
>> > >>>>>>>> this proposal I included a small part of
talks to interact
>> > >>>>>>>> with users and students. The second purpose
is to have the
>> > >>>>>>>> possibility of negotiations with a dean or
academic
>> > >>>>>>>> coordinator to get a free or cheap venue
for the ambassadors
>> > >>>>>>>> work and talks to users.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> The talks hours are smaller than the other
activities that
>> > >>>>>>>> are important.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> El jue., 25 de may. de 2017 a la(s) 15:06,
Brian Exelbierd
>> > >>>>>>>> < bex(a)pobox.com> escribió:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 25, 2017, at 09:38 PM,
alejandro perez wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Julita,
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Normally FAD's do not have a
promotion event. There has
>> > >>>>>>>>> been two times where FAD budgets where
requested and deny
>> > >>>>>>>>> because they contain some promotional
event or time. That
>> > >>>>>>>>> is why I want to make sure you
understand the limitation on
>> > >>>>>>>>> FAD. It is not up to me to decide if
the event will be
>> > >>>>>>>>> approve, therefore my intention is to
consider the
>> > >>>>>>>>> possibility of no promotional event.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I don't don't know this
history, but wearing my council
>> > >>>>>>>>> hat, I can't see why a promotion
component would lead to
>> > >>>>>>>>> automatic denial.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> However, I would want to understand how
this compent was
>> > >>>>>>>>> good for LATAM or the country or the
city. I'd want to know
>> > >>>>>>>>> how it ties to the mission, if
appropriate. I'd want to
>> > >>>>>>>>> know how it will be followed up or
prepared for to ensure
>> > >>>>>>>>> positive impact.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> However, my biggest concern would be
that it be clear this
>> > >>>>>>>>> promotion won't prevent the rest of
the FAD from
>> > >>>>>>>>> accomplishing its goals.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> bex
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> How ever you can do packaging workshops
or translation
>> > >>>>>>>>> sprint (as example) with people that
are already familiar
>> > >>>>>>>>> with Fedora and want to become
contributors.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> This may work better with the FAD
proposal, specially if
>> > >>>>>>>>> you have some people prepare for that.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> *Fecha*: Thu, 25 May 2017 14:12:03
-0500
>> > >>>>>>>>> *Asunto*: [Embajadores-fedora-latam]
Re: FAD proposal
>> > >>>>>>>>> improvement request
>> > >>>>>>>>> *Para*: Latin American Fedora
Ambassadors <embajadores-fedor
>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>
Latin%20American%20Fedora%20Ambassadors%20%3cembajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> %3e>
>> > >>>>>>>>> a-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>
Latin%20American%20Fedora%20Ambassadors%20%3cembajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> %3e>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> Reply-to: Latin American Fedora
Ambassadors <
>> > >>>>>>>>>
embajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
>> > >>>>>>>>> *De*: yrazes <yrazes(a)gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>
<yrazes%20%3cyrazes(a)gmail.com%3e>> Hi Alejandro
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> What I followed so far (please correct
me in case I am
>> > >>>>>>>>> wrong), is that I could arrange in Lima
a place with
>> > >>>>>>>>> facilities as labs with good Internet
connection, searching
>> > >>>>>>>>> hotels and restaurants for at least 7
ambassadors from
>> > >>>>>>>>> LATAM (I do not know exactly who is
invited yet).
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I am also aware about the purspose of
the meeting: to state
>> > >>>>>>>>> some procedures face to face in order
to have a better
>> > >>>>>>>>> Fedora community.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I mentioned the coliseum as part of the
event (two hours
>> > >>>>>>>>> for the first day) because as you know
I do per year at
>> > >>>>>>>>> least five or six events to promote
Fedora and still people
>> > >>>>>>>>> in Lima, we have a low percentage of
knowledge about Linux.
>> > >>>>>>>>> And, because I can not go everywhere
all the time to do
>> > >>>>>>>>> more workshops (because I also need to
work), I did a free
>> > >>>>>>>>> online tutorial of Fedora to everyone
in Backtrackacademy.
>> > >>>>>>>>> [01]
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I "though" that it could be
great if I have the honour to
>> > >>>>>>>>> have all of you in Lima (Ambassadors
with expertise in
>> > >>>>>>>>> Fedora) I could do one public event day
with all of you as
>> > >>>>>>>>> speakers and trainers that can teach my
local people to do
>> > >>>>>>>>> real contributions as packaging,
translations, wiki
>> > >>>>>>>>> manteiners, among other activities.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> The coliseum could be useful for the
first two hours (for
>> > >>>>>>>>> install activities to everyone in Lima
who is intersted in
>> > >>>>>>>>> having Fedora). Please believe me, if
this activity is so
>> > >>>>>>>>> simple for most of us, for newbies is a
challenge in case
>> > >>>>>>>>> they have Wifi problems and other
technician issue that I
>> > >>>>>>>>> know can happen.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> The second day (this plan is still in
my head) we can do
>> > >>>>>>>>> more private meetings to set up (with a
better view from
>> > >>>>>>>>> the previous day) the actions and plans
to have a better
>> > >>>>>>>>> community.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I know that before I have you online in
my events but it is
>> > >>>>>>>>> not the same to have a face to face
training or talk to
>> > >>>>>>>>> somebody in person. In this sense, I
will always appreciate
>> > >>>>>>>>> the labor of Neville, because he is
always available
>> > >>>>>>>>> anytime to response with a online talk
to my people in Lima.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Please let me know if Fedora still want
me to do that event
>> > >>>>>>>>> in USIL, Lima, Peru in July to present
a formal plan to the
>> > >>>>>>>>> authorities.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Best,
>> > >>>>>>>>> Julita
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> [01]
http://backtrackacademy.com/curso/iniciando-gnu-linux
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:35 PM,
alejandro perez <
>> > >>>>>>>>> aeperezt(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Julita,
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Keep in mind this is a FAD it is
dedicated to Fedora
>> > >>>>>>>>> Contributors (or interested parties) ,
to get together and
>> > >>>>>>>>> produce some results, not a promotional
event, because of
>> > >>>>>>>>> that it will be some sort of close
meeting, event do out
>> > >>>>>>>>> side people are welcome cannot be a
massive event with
>> > >>>>>>>>> talks.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> *Fecha*: Tue, 23 May 2017 15:07:56
-0500
>> > >>>>>>>>> *Asunto*: [Embajadores-fedora-latam]
Re: FAD proposal
>> > >>>>>>>>> improvement request
>> > >>>>>>>>> *Para*: Latin American Fedora
Ambassadors <
>> > >>>>>>>>>
embajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>
Latin%20American%20Fedora%20Ambassadors%20%3cembajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> %3e>
>> > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > >>>>>>>>> Reply-to: Latin American Fedora
Ambassadors <
>> > >>>>>>>>>
embajadores-fedora-latam(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
>> > >>>>>>>>> *De*: yrazes <yrazes(a)gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>
<yrazes%20%3cyrazes(a)gmail.com%3e>> Hello Brian and
>> > >>>>>>>>> ambassadors!
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I work in USIL, it is a private
university and because all
>> > >>>>>>>>> the events I do, I have some contacts.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I have talk with the authorities at
USIL to get a coliseum,
>> > >>>>>>>>> labs and auditorium.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
http://www.usil.edu.pe/sedes/universidad-san-ignacio-
>> > >>>>>>>>> loyola-campus-la-molina
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I need dates and I also arranging a
plan to follow since
>> > >>>>>>>>> installation until Fedora workshops.
>> > >>>>>>>>> I am going to check prices around for
hotels and food.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Please give me at least three days to
do it :)
>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>>>>> Julita
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Brian
Exelbierd
>> > >>>>>>>>> <bex(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 06:14 PM,
Eduard Lucena wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello Brian,
>> > >>>>>>>>> Also there is a good discussion about
this in the Spanish
>> > >>>>>>>>> version of this email. I think this
idea is close to happen.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Cool. I'm. It suggesting a specific
place so anywhere
>> > >>>>>>>>> appropriate and easy to fly to is
great.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> As a non-Spanish speaker I don't
follow the Spanish
>> > >>>>>>>>> discussions :). This is also A-OK :)
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> bex
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Br,
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> 2017-05-22 12:12 GMT-04:00 Alex Irmel
Oviedo Solis <
>> > >>>>>>>>> alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com>:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello Brian, in the last meeting I
requested someone to
>> > >>>>>>>>> propose another place inside or outside
Peru to get a
>> > >>>>>>>>> suitable venue (and assume the
logistic, auditorium, hotel,
>> > >>>>>>>>> etc), but anybody propose any place but
I will to wait
>> > >>>>>>>>> until tomorrow night.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> If you want to change the place, I can
talk with
>> > >>>>>>>>> ambassadors from Lima (specially with
bernardoha) I think
>> > >>>>>>>>> he can get a suitable place. The costs
will decrease in at
>> > >>>>>>>>> least 60 dollars by person. Regards.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> El lun., 22 de may. de 2017 a la(s)
09:59, Brian Exelbierd
>> > >>>>>>>>> < bex(a)pobox.com> escribió:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 20, 2017, at 03:30 PM, Alex
Irmel Oviedo Solis
>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Good morning, as some of you know, I
was working on a
>> > >>>>>>>>> proposal to carry out an organizational
FAD in Cusco City,
>> > >>>>>>>>> this proposal was reviewed by some
people as robyduck and
>> > >>>>>>>>> bex then was presented to the council
giving a relative
>> > >>>>>>>>> positive result, but the proposal needs
some improvements
>> > >>>>>>>>> specially in the following terms:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> - Improvement of the agenda and to
establish the clear
>> > >>>>>>>>> objectives.
>> > >>>>>>>>> - Incorporate the ideas of FAMSco
regarding the
>> > >>>>>>>>> organization of ambassadors and related
topics.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Regarding the proposal itself, it can
be reviewed at the
>> > >>>>>>>>> following link:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Cusco2017
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> As can be read, the FAD proposes to
solve several problems
>> > >>>>>>>>> like organizative, budgetary, strategic
and logistical so
>> > >>>>>>>>> help us to be more efficient and
effective.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> About the participants, I considered an
ambassador for each
>> > >>>>>>>>> country that is active and / or
influential in their
>> > >>>>>>>>> country, so that she/he can replicate
(transmit) the
>> > >>>>>>>>> agreements of the other collaborators
of their countries.
>> > >>>>>>>>> If the ambassadors of some country
consider that they can
>> > >>>>>>>>> be represented by another person we can
change their
>> > >>>>>>>>> representative :-)
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> About the dates, at first I put for the
month of June but
>> > >>>>>>>>> not bex hasn't free time to attend
the FAD and decided to
>> > >>>>>>>>> change for the month of July (13, 14
and 15) because in
>> > >>>>>>>>> those days bex has time.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> About the place, I consulted with the
ambassadors of Peru
>> > >>>>>>>>> about the place and we chosen Cusco as
the venue, if there
>> > >>>>>>>>> is any other proposal to change the
place (inside or
>> > >>>>>>>>> outside of Peru) the interested people
must commit to get
>> > >>>>>>>>> an suitable place to the meetings,
talks and accomodation.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> With regards to place, I believe Itamar
suggested in the
>> > >>>>>>>>> FAmSCo meeting that choosing a
different city might result
>> > >>>>>>>>> in lower costs (especially for
airfare). I think Lima was
>> > >>>>>>>>> suggested. I agree we need to have
someone who is willing
>> > >>>>>>>>> to own finding the place to meet in
whatever city we
>> > >>>>>>>>> choose. I second the call for someone
to stand up and
>> > >>>>>>>>> champion this if we can save the money
reasonably.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Overall, this email is well stated and
I hope there will be
>> > >>>>>>>>> good conversation in LATAM about this.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> bex
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> * In summary, the FAD proposal can be
improved in all its
>> > >>>>>>>>> aspects, therefore I request support to
improve it and to
>> > >>>>>>>>> have it approved so that we can improve
and grow the
>> > >>>>>>>>> community. *
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> PS: Sorry for this big email
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Greetings and thanks in advance.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
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