Re: Can we also have g11n meetings at EU-friendly times?

On 22 February 2016 at 19:40, Baadur Jobava <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi Pravin,
>
>  I can do it between 3PM UTC and 10PM UTC during weekdays, as well as
>  mornings or evenings in the weekends.
>  
Nice.  Lets do it on 25th Feb 2016,  2100 UTC. So 7am BNE and 2am for IST.

I have created agenda page. [1]  Please add more points.

Thanks,
Pravin Satpute

1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2016-02-25



>  Unfortunately, that means there's no way to fit a US timezone without
>  trying it on a Saturday maybe.
>
>  Jobava
>
>  On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:41 PM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com <
>  pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > Hi Jobava,
> >
> > You have started this thread at perfect moment. We are having bi-weekly
> > G11N meeting focused on Translation+Zanata. We missed last
> > Traslation+Zanata meeting and must have one this week. We have lots of
> > topics. few are..
> > 1. Fedora 24 test days
> > 2. Translation badges
> > 3. Topics specific to priority translations.
> > 4. Zanata login stuff
> >
> > On 22 February 2016 at 15:24, Baadur Jobava <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for your replies so far. Would one of these meetings work at
> >> maybe 4PM UTC, which is 5PM Central-Europe (6PM for me), 8PM India and 12PM
> >> Japan? This is unworkable for US people, so maybe a separate timeframe for
> >> EU-US.
> >>
> >
> > Agree with you. We need to find suitable time for EU-US so more
> > contributors can join. Since its either bi-weekly or monthly will try our
> > best to join :) Or even if we are not there we can follow logs and comment
> > on list :)
> >
> > Sat/Sun may be difficult. Please select any time on Wed/Thu/Fri suitable
> > for EU-US and update here on list for this week.  Will join it.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> There could also be an Ambassador or Participation-related aspect to
> >> L10n, which I see is not yet being pushed in the Fedora communities.
> >> Translation is also a lower barrier to entry and can be a tool for
> >> onboarding people and getting them to have an impact directly and visibly.
> >>
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pravin Satpute
> >
> > 1. http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=2174003,30,100,12&h=2174003
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Jobava
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste <
> >> jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr&gt; wrote:
> >>
> >>> Le 21/02/2016 15:49, Noriko Mizumoto a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> On 2016年02月22日 00:35, Baadur Jobava wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your reply, Noriko!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only emea
> >>>>>> specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens. How
> much
> >>>>>> level of demand exist?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One thing to do may be to mass-email people who contributed on
> Zanata
> >>>>> (or even the old Transifex contributors) to get them on board. I
> >>>>> suspect
> >>>>> many of them have no idea and have no communication channel to the
> >>>>> rest
> >>>>> of the community.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> All Fedora translators are basically required to take 'join'
> steps,
> >>>> which includes subscription of this trans at list ML and any local
> >>>> mailing list, just like you :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Therefore any of translators,  who used to contribute in Transifex as
> >>>> Fedora Localization team, who moved from Transifex to Zanata, and who
> >>>> joined as new recently, all should receive this mail posted in trans at
> >>>> lists.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are #fedora-l10n channel and #fedora-g11n channel on freenode. We
> >>>> might be living in smaller world than we imagine? hehehe
> >>>>
> >>>> noriko
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jobava
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Noriko Mizumoto
> >>>>> <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      On 2016年02月22日 00:15, Baadur Jobava wrote:
> >>>>>      > I also sent this message to the list g11n at
> >>>>> lists.fedoraproject.org <http://lists.fedoraproject.org>
> >>>>>      > <http://lists.fedoraproject.org> but the message is
> still
> >>>>> waiting
> >>>>>      > moderator approval. I am posting the same message here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      It is expected to be auto-approved, there might be something
> >>>>> wrong in
> >>>>>      system?! I added Patrick, Infra team to have closer look.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      > ---------
> >>>>>      > Dear Fedora g11-ers,
> >>>>>      >
> >>>>>      > All the g11 meetings are held during very early morning EU
> >>>>> time, or
> >>>>>      > times not accessible easily (middle of week morning). Is
> it
> >>>>> possible to
> >>>>>      > have some meetings in on a (Saturday/Sunday morning) OR
> >>>>> (evenings) UTC-wise.
> >>>>>      >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      Thank you so much for raising this point!
> >>>>>      This is one of our most concerns. We were trying to find good
> >>>>> time but
> >>>>>      could not hear much suggestion from emea area.
> >>>>>      I myself like to come up and join the meeting when the time
> >>>>> suits you,
> >>>>>      and know many of us are feeling same. Please name the day and
> >>>>> the time
> >>>>>      (in UTC), so we can start from there (and give adjustment if
> >>>>> needed).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      This is my personal preference but like to reserve my Sat/Sun
> >>>>> for my
> >>>>>      family. But majority like, I will join.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      > Thanks!
> >>>>>      > ------------
> >>>>>      >
> >>>>>      > If having these meetings is too difficult, then I suggest
> we
> >>>>> have a g11n
> >>>>>      > section to the EMEA meetings and advertise those meetings
> on
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>      > g11n/trans mailing lists.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only
> emea
> >>>>>      specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens. How
> >>>>> much
> >>>>>      level of demand exist?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      noriko
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      >
> >>>>>      > Thanks again.
> >>>>>      >
> >>>>>      > Jobava
> >>>>>      >
> >>>>>      >
> >>>>>      >
> >>>>>      > --
> >>>>>      > trans mailing list
> >>>>>      > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:
> >>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
> >>>>>      >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >>>>>      >
> >>>>>      --
> >>>>>      trans mailing list
> >>>>>      trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:
> >>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>> trans mailing list
> >>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >>>>
> >>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> No problems for me to try a new schedule to see if there is more
> >>> contributors.
> >>>
> >>> Do you have an idea of specific EMEA subjects or subjects you would
> >>> like to discuss about and can't at the moment ?
> >>>
> >>> "mass email people who contributed on Zanata" can be a good idea
> to
> >>> annonce a particular test day, but I'm not sure about doing that for an
> IRC
> >>> meeting.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> --
> >>> Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
> >>> --
> >>> trans mailing list
> >>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> trans mailing list
> >> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > trans mailing list
> > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >
>
>
>  --
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>  trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
>

Can we also have g11n meetings at EU-friendly times?

[Baadur Jobava]

+1

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jona Azizaj <jonaazizaj(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  +1
>
>  25 Feb 2016 @9PM UTC it's okay for me
>  :)
>
>
>
>  On 22 February 2016 at 19:40, Baadur Jobava <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > Hi Pravin,
> >
> > I can do it between 3PM UTC and 10PM UTC during weekdays, as well as
> > mornings or evenings in the weekends.
> >
>
>  Nice.  Lets do it on 25th Feb 2016,  2100 UTC. So 7am BNE and 2am for IST.
>
>  I have created agenda page. [1]  Please add more points.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Pravin Satpute
>
>  1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2016-02-25
>
>
>
> >
> > Unfortunately, that means there's no way to fit a US timezone without
> > trying it on a Saturday maybe.
> >
> > Jobava
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:41 PM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com <
> > pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jobava,
> >>
> >> You have started this thread at perfect moment. We are having bi-weekly
> >> G11N meeting focused on Translation+Zanata. We missed last
> >> Traslation+Zanata meeting and must have one this week. We have lots of
> >> topics. few are..
> >> 1. Fedora 24 test days
> >> 2. Translation badges
> >> 3. Topics specific to priority translations.
> >> 4. Zanata login stuff
> >>
> >> On 22 February 2016 at 15:24, Baadur Jobava <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com&gt;
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks for your replies so far. Would one of these meetings work at
> >>> maybe 4PM UTC, which is 5PM Central-Europe (6PM for me), 8PM India and 12PM
> >>> Japan? This is unworkable for US people, so maybe a separate timeframe for
> >>> EU-US.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Agree with you. We need to find suitable time for EU-US so more
> >> contributors can join. Since its either bi-weekly or monthly will try our
> >> best to join :) Or even if we are not there we can follow logs and comment
> >> on list :)
> >>
> >> Sat/Sun may be difficult. Please select any time on Wed/Thu/Fri suitable
> >> for EU-US and update here on list for this week.  Will join it.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> There could also be an Ambassador or Participation-related aspect to
> >>> L10n, which I see is not yet being pushed in the Fedora communities.
> >>> Translation is also a lower barrier to entry and can be a tool for
> >>> onboarding people and getting them to have an impact directly and visibly.
> >>>
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Pravin Satpute
> >>
> >> 1. http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=2174003,30,100,12&h=2174003
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Jobava
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste <
> >>> jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr&gt; wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Le 21/02/2016 15:49, Noriko Mizumoto a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2016年02月22日 00:35, Baadur Jobava wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for your reply, Noriko!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only emea
> >>>>>>> specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens.
> How much
> >>>>>>> level of demand exist?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> One thing to do may be to mass-email people who contributed on
> Zanata
> >>>>>> (or even the old Transifex contributors) to get them on board. I
> >>>>>> suspect
> >>>>>> many of them have no idea and have no communication channel to
> the
> >>>>>> rest
> >>>>>> of the community.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All Fedora translators are basically required to take 'join'
> steps,
> >>>>> which includes subscription of this trans at list ML and any local
> >>>>> mailing list, just like you :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Therefore any of translators,  who used to contribute in Transifex
> as
> >>>>> Fedora Localization team, who moved from Transifex to Zanata, and
> who
> >>>>> joined as new recently, all should receive this mail posted in trans
> >>>>> at
> >>>>> lists.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are #fedora-l10n channel and #fedora-g11n channel on freenode.
> >>>>> We
> >>>>> might be living in smaller world than we imagine? hehehe
> >>>>>
> >>>>> noriko
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jobava
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Noriko Mizumoto
> >>>>>> <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      On 2016年02月22日 00:15, Baadur Jobava wrote:
> >>>>>>      > I also sent this message to the list g11n at
> >>>>>> lists.fedoraproject.org <http://lists.fedoraproject.org>
> >>>>>>      > <http://lists.fedoraproject.org> but the message
> is still
> >>>>>> waiting
> >>>>>>      > moderator approval. I am posting the same message
> here.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      It is expected to be auto-approved, there might be
> something
> >>>>>> wrong in
> >>>>>>      system?! I added Patrick, Infra team to have closer look.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      > ---------
> >>>>>>      > Dear Fedora g11-ers,
> >>>>>>      >
> >>>>>>      > All the g11 meetings are held during very early morning
> EU
> >>>>>> time, or
> >>>>>>      > times not accessible easily (middle of week morning).
> Is it
> >>>>>> possible to
> >>>>>>      > have some meetings in on a (Saturday/Sunday morning)
> OR
> >>>>>> (evenings) UTC-wise.
> >>>>>>      >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      Thank you so much for raising this point!
> >>>>>>      This is one of our most concerns. We were trying to find
> good
> >>>>>> time but
> >>>>>>      could not hear much suggestion from emea area.
> >>>>>>      I myself like to come up and join the meeting when the time
> >>>>>> suits you,
> >>>>>>      and know many of us are feeling same. Please name the day
> and
> >>>>>> the time
> >>>>>>      (in UTC), so we can start from there (and give adjustment
> if
> >>>>>> needed).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      This is my personal preference but like to reserve my
> Sat/Sun
> >>>>>> for my
> >>>>>>      family. But majority like, I will join.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      > Thanks!
> >>>>>>      > ------------
> >>>>>>      >
> >>>>>>      > If having these meetings is too difficult, then I
> suggest we
> >>>>>> have a g11n
> >>>>>>      > section to the EMEA meetings and advertise those
> meetings on
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>      > g11n/trans mailing lists.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only
> emea
> >>>>>>      specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens.
> How
> >>>>>> much
> >>>>>>      level of demand exist?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      noriko
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      >
> >>>>>>      > Thanks again.
> >>>>>>      >
> >>>>>>      > Jobava
> >>>>>>      >
> >>>>>>      >
> >>>>>>      >
> >>>>>>      > --
> >>>>>>      > trans mailing list
> >>>>>>      > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:
> >>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
> >>>>>>      >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >>>>>>      >
> >>>>>>      --
> >>>>>>      trans mailing list
> >>>>>>      trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:
> >>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>> trans mailing list
> >>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> No problems for me to try a new schedule to see if there is more
> >>>> contributors.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you have an idea of specific EMEA subjects or subjects you would
> >>>> like to discuss about and can't at the moment ?
> >>>>
> >>>> "mass email people who contributed on Zanata" can be a good
> idea to
> >>>> annonce a particular test day, but I'm not sure about doing that for
> an IRC
> >>>> meeting.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sincerely,
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
> >>>> --
> >>>> trans mailing list
> >>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >>>>
> >>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> trans mailing list
> >>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> trans mailing list
> >> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > trans mailing list
> > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >
>
>  Sent Using Firefox OS
>
>
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>

Can we also have g11n meetings at EU-friendly times?

[Ani Peter]

Dear All, 

Apologies for the delay in responding to the mail thread. Am really glad to see more
members being part of g11n and together we can take it forward in a big way benefiting
Fedora community. 

Also, the meeting time finalized is 9PM UTC, which is 2:30AM IST & 7AM BST. Though
2:30AM IST is really an odd time to have a meeting , being the first meeting after a gap
with many new members, guess it would be good if all try and make it for the meeting.
Currently we do not have much members in the meetings, its better that we all attend the
meeting together and once we have enough participants we can split meeting geowise. 

Thanking you 
Best regards 
Ani Peter 
FLTG 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Baadur Jobava" <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com
>   
To:
"Globalization" <g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>   
Sent:
Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:46:30 PM 
Subject: Re: Can we also have g11n meetings at EU-friendly times? 

+1 

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jona Azizaj < jonaazizaj(a)gmail.com > wrote: 



+1 

25 Feb 2016 @9PM UTC it's okay for me 
:) 

<blockquote>



On 22 February 2016 at 19:40, Baadur Jobava < jobaval10n(a)gmail.com > wrote: 

<blockquote>

Hi Pravin, 

I can do it between 3PM UTC and 10PM UTC during weekdays, as well as mornings or evenings
in the weekends. 




Nice. Lets do it on 25th Feb 2016, 2100 UTC. So 7am BNE and 2am for IST. 

I have created agenda page. [1] Please add more points. 

Thanks, 
Pravin Satpute 

1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2016-02-25 


<blockquote>


Unfortunately, that means there's no way to fit a US timezone without trying it on a
Saturday maybe. 

Jobava 

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:41 PM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com < pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com >
wrote: 

<blockquote>

Hi Jobava, 

You have started this thread at perfect moment. We are having bi-weekly G11N meeting
focused on Translation+Zanata. We missed last Traslation+Zanata meeting and must have one
this week. We have lots of topics. few are.. 
1. Fedora 24 test days 
2. Translation badges 
3. Topics specific to priority translations. 
4. Zanata login stuff 

On 22 February 2016 at 15:24, Baadur Jobava < jobaval10n(a)gmail.com > wrote: 

<blockquote>

Thanks for your replies so far. Would one of these meetings work at maybe 4PM UTC, which
is 5PM Central-Europe (6PM for me), 8PM India and 12PM Japan? This is unworkable for US
people, so maybe a separate timeframe for EU-US. 

</blockquote>


Agree with you. We need to find suitable time for EU-US so more contributors can join.
Since its either bi-weekly or monthly will try our best to join :) Or even if we are not
there we can follow logs and comment on list :) 

Sat/Sun may be difficult. Please select any time on Wed/Thu/Fri suitable for EU-US and
update here on list for this week. Will join it. 

<blockquote>


There could also be an Ambassador or Participation-related aspect to L10n, which I see is
not yet being pushed in the Fedora communities. Translation is also a lower barrier to
entry and can be a tool for onboarding people and getting them to have an impact directly
and visibly. 

</blockquote>


+1 

Regards, 
Pravin Satpute 

1. http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=2174003,30,100,12&h=2174003 

<blockquote>



Jobava 

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste < jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr > wrote:


<blockquote>

Le 21/02/2016 15:49, Noriko Mizumoto a écrit : 

<blockquote>

On 2016年02月22日 00:35, Baadur Jobava wrote: 

<blockquote>
Thanks for your reply, Noriko! 



<blockquote>
This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only emea 
specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens. How much 
level of demand exist? 

</blockquote>

One thing to do may be to mass-email people who contributed on Zanata 
(or even the old Transifex contributors) to get them on board. I suspect 
many of them have no idea and have no communication channel to the rest 
of the community. 

</blockquote>

All Fedora translators are basically required to take 'join' steps, 
which includes subscription of this trans at list ML and any local 
mailing list, just like you :-) 

Therefore any of translators, who used to contribute in Transifex as 
Fedora Localization team, who moved from Transifex to Zanata, and who 
joined as new recently, all should receive this mail posted in trans at 
lists. 

There are #fedora-l10n channel and #fedora-g11n channel on freenode. We 
might be living in smaller world than we imagine? hehehe 

noriko 


<blockquote>

Thanks. 

Jobava 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Noriko Mizumoto 
< noriko(a)fedoraproject.org <mailto: noriko(a)fedoraproject.org >> wrote: 

On 2016年02月22日 00:15, Baadur Jobava wrote: 
>  I also sent this message to the list g11n at lists.fedoraproject.org
> < http://lists.fedoraproject.org
> >   
>  <
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org > but the message is still waiting 
>  moderator approval. I am posting the same message here.  
It is expected to be auto-approved, there might be something wrong in 
system?! I added Patrick, Infra team to have closer look. 

>  --------- 
>  Dear Fedora g11-ers, 
>  
>  All the g11 meetings are held during very early morning EU time, or 
>  times not accessible easily (middle of week morning). Is it possible to 
>  have some meetings in on a (Saturday/Sunday morning) OR (evenings) UTC-wise. 
>   
Thank you so much for raising this point! 
This is one of our most concerns. We were trying to find good time but 
could not hear much suggestion from emea area. 
I myself like to come up and join the meeting when the time suits you, 
and know many of us are feeling same. Please name the day and the time 
(in UTC), so we can start from there (and give adjustment if needed). 

This is my personal preference but like to reserve my Sat/Sun for my 
family. But majority like, I will join. 

>  Thanks! 
>  ------------ 
>  
>  If having these meetings is too difficult, then I suggest we have a g11n 
>  section to the EMEA meetings and advertise those meetings on the 
>  g11n/trans mailing lists.  
This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only emea 
specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens. How much 
level of demand exist? 

noriko 


>  
>  Thanks again. 
>  
>  Jobava 
>  
>  
>  
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Hello, 

No problems for me to try a new schedule to see if there is more contributors. 

Do you have an idea of specific EMEA subjects or subjects you would like to discuss about
and can't at the moment ? 

"mass email people who contributed on Zanata" can be a good idea to annonce a
particular test day, but I'm not sure about doing that for an IRC meeting. 

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Can we also have g11n meetings at EU-friendly times?

[Noriko Mizumoto]

On 2016年02月24日 19:20, Ani Peter wrote:
>  Dear All,
>  
>  Apologies for the delay in responding to the mail thread. Am really glad
>  to see more members being part of g11n and together we can take it
>  forward in a big way benefiting Fedora community.
>  
>  Also, the meeting time finalized is 9PM UTC, which is 2:30AM IST  & 7AM
>  BST. Though 2:30AM IST is really an odd time to have a meeting Wink,
>  being the first meeting after a gap with many new members, guess it
>  would be good if all try and make it for the meeting. Currently we do
>  not have much members in the meetings, its better that we all attend the
>  meeting together and once we have enough participants we can split
>  meeting geowise. 
true... plus I definitely need the attendance from FLTG to cover QA.
noriko

>  
>  Thanking you
>  Best regards
>  Ani Peter
>  FLTG
>  
>  
>  
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  *From: *"Baadur Jobava" <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  *To: *"Globalization" <g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
>  *Sent: *Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:46:30 PM
>  *Subject: *Re: Can we also have g11n meetings at EU-friendly times?
>  
>  +1
>  
>  On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jona Azizaj <jonaazizaj(a)gmail.com
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>  
>      +1
>  
>      25 Feb 2016 @9PM UTC it's okay for me
>      :)
>  
>  
>  
>          On 22 February 2016 at 19:40, Baadur Jobava
>          <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>              Hi Pravin,
>  
>              I can do it between 3PM UTC and 10PM UTC during weekdays, as
>              well as mornings or evenings in the weekends.
>  
>  
>          Nice.  Lets do it on 25th Feb 2016,  2100 UTC. So 7am BNE and
>          2am for IST.
>  
>          I have created agenda page. [1]  Please add more points. 
>  
>          Thanks,
>          Pravin Satpute
>  
>          1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2016-02-25
>  
>           
>  
>  
>              Unfortunately, that means there's no way to fit a US
>              timezone without trying it on a Saturday maybe.
>  
>              Jobava
>  
>              On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:41 PM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com
>              <pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>                  Hi Jobava,
>  
>                  You have started this thread at perfect moment. We are
>                  having bi-weekly G11N meeting focused on
>                  Translation+Zanata. We missed last Traslation+Zanata
>                  meeting and must have one this week. We have lots of
>                  topics. few are..
>                  1. Fedora 24 test days
>                  2. Translation badges
>                  3. Topics specific to priority translations.
>                  4. Zanata login stuff
>  
>                  On 22 February 2016 at 15:24, Baadur Jobava
>                  <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>                      Thanks for your replies so far. Would one of these
>                      meetings work at maybe 4PM UTC, which is 5PM
>                      Central-Europe (6PM for me), 8PM India and 12PM
>                      Japan? This is unworkable for US people, so maybe a
>                      separate timeframe for EU-US.
>  
>  
>                  Agree with you. We need to find suitable time for EU-US
>                  so more contributors can join. Since its either
>                  bi-weekly or monthly will try our best to join :) Or
>                  even if we are not there we can follow logs and comment
>                  on list :)
>  
>                  Sat/Sun may be difficult. Please select any time on
>                  Wed/Thu/Fri suitable for EU-US and update here on list
>                  for this week.  Will join it.
>                   
>  
>  
>                      There could also be an Ambassador or
>                      Participation-related aspect to L10n, which I see is
>                      not yet being pushed in the Fedora communities.
>                      Translation is also a lower barrier to entry and can
>                      be a tool for onboarding people and getting them to
>                      have an impact directly and visibly.
>  
>  
>                  +1
>  
>                  Regards,
>                  Pravin Satpute
>  
>                  1.
>                 
> http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=2174003,30,100,12&h=2174003
>  
>                   
>  
>  
>  
>                      Jobava
>  
>                      On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste
>                      <jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr&gt; wrote:
>  
>                          Le 21/02/2016 15:49, Noriko Mizumoto a écrit :
>  
>                              On 2016年02月22日 00:35, Baadur Jobava wrote:
>  
>                                  Thanks for your reply, Noriko!
>  
>  
>                                      This is good idea too, so that
>                                      translators can discuss only emea
>                                      specific matter if any. Please count
>                                      me in if this happens. How much
>                                      level of demand exist?
>  
>  
>                                  One thing to do may be to mass-email
>                                  people who contributed on Zanata
>                                  (or even the old Transifex contributors)
>                                  to get them on board. I suspect
>                                  many of them have no idea and have no
>                                  communication channel to the rest
>                                  of the community.
>  
>  
>                              All Fedora translators are basically
>                              required to take 'join' steps,
>                              which includes subscription of this trans at
>                              list ML and any local
>                              mailing list, just like you :-)
>  
>                              Therefore any of translators,  who used to
>                              contribute in Transifex as
>                              Fedora Localization team, who moved from
>                              Transifex to Zanata, and who
>                              joined as new recently, all should receive
>                              this mail posted in trans at
>                              lists.
>  
>                              There are #fedora-l10n channel and
>                              #fedora-g11n channel on freenode. We
>                              might be living in smaller world than we
>                              imagine? hehehe
>  
>                              noriko
>  
>  
>                                  Thanks.
>  
>                                  Jobava
>  
>                                  On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Noriko
>                                  Mizumoto
>                                  <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org
>                                  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>  
>                                       On 2016年02月22日 00:15, Baadur
>                                  Jobava wrote:
>                                       > I also sent this message to the
>                                  list g11n at lists.fedoraproject.org
>                                  <http://lists.fedoraproject.org>
>                                       > <http://lists.fedoraproject.org>
>                                  but the message is still waiting
>                                       > moderator approval. I am posting
>                                  the same message here.
>  
>                                       It is expected to be auto-approved,
>                                  there might be something wrong in
>                                       system?! I added Patrick, Infra
>                                  team to have closer look.
>  
>                                       > ---------
>                                       > Dear Fedora g11-ers,
>                                       >
>                                       > All the g11 meetings are held
>                                  during very early morning EU time, or
>                                       > times not accessible easily
>                                  (middle of week morning). Is it possible to
>                                       > have some meetings in on a
>                                  (Saturday/Sunday morning) OR (evenings)
>                                  UTC-wise.
>                                       >
>  
>                                       Thank you so much for raising this
>                                  point!
>                                       This is one of our most concerns.
>                                  We were trying to find good time but
>                                       could not hear much suggestion from
>                                  emea area.
>                                       I myself like to come up and join
>                                  the meeting when the time suits you,
>                                       and know many of us are feeling
>                                  same. Please name the day and the time
>                                       (in UTC), so we can start from
>                                  there (and give adjustment if needed).
>  
>                                       This is my personal preference but
>                                  like to reserve my Sat/Sun for my
>                                       family. But majority like, I will join.
>  
>                                       > Thanks!
>                                       > ------------
>                                       >
>                                       > If having these meetings is too
>                                  difficult, then I suggest we have a g11n
>                                       > section to the EMEA meetings and
>                                  advertise those meetings on the
>                                       > g11n/trans mailing lists.
>  
>                                       This is good idea too, so that
>                                  translators can discuss only emea
>                                       specific matter if any. Please
>                                  count me in if this happens. How much
>                                       level of demand exist?
>  
>                                       noriko
>  
>  
>                                       >
>                                       > Thanks again.
>                                       >
>                                       > Jobava
>                                       >
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>                          Hello,
>  
>                          No problems for me to try a new schedule to see
>                          if there is more contributors.
>  
>                          Do you have an idea of specific EMEA subjects or
>                          subjects you would like to discuss about and
>                          can't at the moment ?
>  
>                          "mass email people who contributed on Zanata"
>                          can be a good idea to annonce a particular test
>                          day, but I'm not sure about doing that for an
>                          IRC meeting.
>  
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