Mailman listinfo

[Misha Shnurapet]

Hello.

I am trying to enter a description for the trans-ru mailing list [1]. Apparently, the system doesn't support a number of alphabets, such as Russian, Tamil, Persian. Also Japanese, I assume. Descriptions in languages are displayed incorrectly.

Is there a way to fix it?

[1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:28:53 +0900
Misha Shnurapet  wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I am trying to enter a description for the trans-ru mailing list [1].
> Apparently, the system doesn't support a number of alphabets, such as
> Russian, Tamil, Persian. Also Japanese, I assume. Descriptions in
> languages are displayed incorrectly.
>
> Is there a way to fix it?

Good question.

It looks like they appear correctly on their info pages, it's just the
higher level listinfo page that doesn't work?

I think if we can set DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE to utf8 from en it might
work, but it seems there's not any utf8 option available for it. ;(

Will look around some more.

kevin

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[Kevin Fenzi]

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:49:29 -0600
Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:28:53 +0900
> Misha Shnurapet  wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > I am trying to enter a description for the trans-ru mailing list
> > [1]. Apparently, the system doesn't support a number of alphabets,
> > such as Russian, Tamil, Persian. Also Japanese, I assume.
> > Descriptions in languages are displayed incorrectly.
> >
> > Is there a way to fix it?
>
> Good question.
>
> It looks like they appear correctly on their info pages, it's just the
> higher level listinfo page that doesn't work?
>
> I think if we can set DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE to utf8 from en it might
> work, but it seems there's not any utf8 option available for it. ;(
>
> Will look around some more.

Looks like the following change to mm_cfg.py should fix this issue. 
It might also fix:
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3930

basically the mailman default is 'en' with encoding 'us-ascii'. Which
of course doesn't lead to displaying non ascii languages nicely.
Switching this to utf-8 allows them to display nicely as well as
keeping the en looking fine.

I'm happy to wait until monday for this change, or just do it now (I
should be around all weekend in case something shows up). It should be
easy to revert.

Thoughts?

kevin
--
diff --git a/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config.erb
b/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config index e65f949..a3940ee 100644
--- a/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config.erb
+++ b/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config.erb
@@ -13,3 +13,4 @@ PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = '<%= mailman_archive_proto
%>://<%= mailman_archive_host %> VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = False
 MTA = 'Postfix'
 POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ '<%= mailman_default_email_host %>' ]
+add_language('en',    'English',       'utf-8')

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[Kevin Fenzi]

Correction to my last request:

Looks like we don't use the mailman module, just config... so:

diff --git a/configs/mailman/mailman_config.erb
b/configs/mailman/mailman_config.erb index d2da95f..5c8ab0e 100644
--- a/configs/mailman/mailman_config.erb
+++ b/configs/mailman/mailman_config.erb
@@ -14,3 +14,4 @@ VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = False
 MTA = 'Postfix'
 POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ '<%= mailman_default_email_host %>' ]
 IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mm-icons/'
+add_language('en',    'English',       'utf-8')
diff --git a/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config.erb
b/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config index e65f949..a3940ee 100644
--- a/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config.erb
+++ b/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config.erb
@@ -13,3 +13,4 @@ PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = '<%= mailman_archive_proto
%>://<%= mailman_archive_host %> VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = False
 MTA = 'Postfix'
 POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ '<%= mailman_default_email_host %>' ]
+add_language('en',    'English',       'utf-8')

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[Toshio Kuratomi]

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 03:45:52PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Correction to my last request:
>
> Looks like we don't use the mailman module, just config... so:
>
> diff --git a/configs/mailman/mailman_config.erb
> b/configs/mailman/mailman_config.erb index d2da95f..5c8ab0e 100644
> --- a/configs/mailman/mailman_config.erb
> +++ b/configs/mailman/mailman_config.erb
> @@ -14,3 +14,4 @@ VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = False
>  MTA = 'Postfix'
>  POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ '<%= mailman_default_email_host %>' ]
>  IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mm-icons/'
> +add_language('en',    'English',       'utf-8')
> diff --git a/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config.erb
> b/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config index e65f949..a3940ee 100644
> --- a/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config.erb
> +++ b/modules/mailman/templates/mailman_config.erb
> @@ -13,3 +13,4 @@ PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = '<%= mailman_archive_proto
> %>://<%= mailman_archive_host %> VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = False
>  MTA = 'Postfix'
>  POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ '<%= mailman_default_email_host %>' ]
> +add_language('en',    'English',       'utf-8')

+1 from me

-Toshio

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[Stephen John Smoogen]

+1 on my part.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 15:39, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:49:29 -0600
> Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:28:53 +0900
> > Misha Shnurapet  wrote:

[Misha Shnurapet]

29.10.2011, 05:49, "Kevin Fenzi" :
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:28:53 +0900
> Misha Shnurapet  wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > I am trying to enter a description for the trans-ru mailing list [1].
> >  Apparently, the system doesn't support a number of alphabets, such as
> >  Russian, Tamil, Persian. Also Japanese, I assume. Descriptions in
> >  languages are displayed incorrectly.
> >
> > Is there a way to fix it?
>
> Good question.
>
> It looks like they appear correctly on their info pages, it's just the
> higher level listinfo page that doesn't work?
>
> I think if we can set DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE to utf8 from en it might
> work, but it seems there's not any utf8 option available for it. ;(
>
> Will look around some more.

Hi, found any workaround yet?

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:19:03 +0900
Misha Shnurapet  wrote:
> 29.10.2011, 05:49, "Kevin Fenzi" :
> > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:28:53 +0900
> > Misha Shnurapet  wrote:
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > I am trying to enter a description for the trans-ru mailing list
> > > [1]. Apparently, the system doesn't support a number of alphabets,
> > > such as Russian, Tamil, Persian. Also Japanese, I assume.
> > > Descriptions in languages are displayed incorrectly.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to fix it?
> >
> > Good question.
> >
> > It looks like they appear correctly on their info pages, it's just
> > the higher level listinfo page that doesn't work?
> >
> > I think if we can set DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE to utf8 from en it
> > might work, but it seems there's not any utf8 option available for
> > it. ;(
> >
> > Will look around some more.
>
> Hi, found any workaround yet?

I am pretty sure this will be fixed when we migrate to the new mailman
version in rhel6. We are tenatively planning that for 2011-11-28.

kevin