Installation: monitor suspend with different timezones

[Sebastian Vahl]

Hi.

When installaling a kde livecd and selecting a different timezone (eg. one 
from europe) the monitor will suspend

When I select a different timezone (eg. one from europe) in Anaconda during 
installation from a kde livecd the monitor will suspend when Anaconda changes 
the timezone (AFAIK after formatting the partitions). It will come back when 
moving the mouse or hitting any key. But I think this is a little bit 
confusing for non-experienced users.

In gnome livecd this would not happen. I'm not sure if this is related to 
anaconda, metacity/gnome or kwin/kde (powersaving is disabled in kde). I've 
also tried this with installing and using openbox on the gnome cd. Then the 
monitor is also suspended.

Any ideas how to solve this?

Sebastian

[Jeremy Katz]

On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 11:53 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
>  When installaling a kde livecd and selecting a different timezone
> (eg. one 
>  from europe) the monitor will suspend
>  
>  When I select a different timezone (eg. one from europe) in Anaconda during 
>  installation from a kde livecd the monitor will suspend when Anaconda changes 
>  the timezone (AFAIK after formatting the partitions). It will come back when 
>  moving the mouse or hitting any key. But I think this is a little bit 
>  confusing for non-experienced users.
>  
>  In gnome livecd this would not happen. I'm not sure if this is related to 
>  anaconda, metacity/gnome or kwin/kde (powersaving is disabled in kde). I've 
>  also tried this with installing and using openbox on the gnome cd. Then the 
>  monitor is also suspended.
>  
>  Any ideas how to solve this? 
The problem is that we need to be able to change the timezone so that
files are created with the correct timestamp.

If only there were a nice way that worked across desktops to inhibit the
screensaver being triggered.  Alas, not there yet

Jeremy

[Rex Dieter]

Jeremy Katz wrote:

>  On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 11:53 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
> > When installaling a kde livecd and selecting a different timezone (eg.
> > one from europe) the monitor will suspend
> > 
> > When I select a different timezone (eg. one from europe) in Anaconda
> > during installation from a kde livecd the monitor will suspend when
> > Anaconda changes the timezone (AFAIK after formatting the partitions). It
> > will come back when moving the mouse or hitting any key. But I think this
> > is a little bit confusing for non-experienced users.
> > 
> > In gnome livecd this would not happen. I'm not sure if this is related to
> > anaconda, metacity/gnome or kwin/kde (powersaving is disabled in kde).
> > I've also tried this with installing and using openbox on the gnome cd.
> > Then the monitor is also suspended.
> > 
> > Any ideas how to solve this?
>  
>  The problem is that we need to be able to change the timezone so that
>  files are created with the correct timestamp.
>  
>  If only there were a nice way that worked across desktops to inhibit the
>  screensaver being triggered.  Alas, not there yet 
maybe use xdg-screensaver (from xdg-utils) to do something like that:
xdg-screensaver suspend WindowID
<change timezone>
xdg-screensaver resume WindowID
?  :)

-- Rex

[Sebastian Vahl]

Am Mon, 07 May 2007 11:43:55 -0400
schrieb Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com&gt;:

>  On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 11:53 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
>  > When installaling a kde livecd and selecting a different timezone
>  > (eg. one from europe) the monitor will suspend
>  > 
>  > When I select a different timezone (eg. one from europe) in
>  > Anaconda during installation from a kde livecd the monitor will
>  > suspend when Anaconda changes the timezone (AFAIK after formatting
>  > the partitions). It will come back when moving the mouse or hitting
>  > any key. But I think this is a little bit confusing for
>  > non-experienced users.
>  > 
>  > In gnome livecd this would not happen. I'm not sure if this is
>  > related to anaconda, metacity/gnome or kwin/kde (powersaving is
>  > disabled in kde). I've also tried this with installing and using
>  > openbox on the gnome cd. Then the monitor is also suspended.
>  > 
>  > Any ideas how to solve this?
>  
>  The problem is that we need to be able to change the timezone so that
>  files are created with the correct timestamp. 
Then I have a question: When booting the livecd is the time taken from
the bios?

Example: I'm booting the livecd. My bios clock says it is 10 am. The
timezone on the livecd is US/Eastern. When Gnome or KDE is starting the
panel clock says it's 10 am in US/Eastern. When installing I'm
changing the timezone in anaconda because I live in germany
(Europe/Berlin). Now the timezone is correct but the clock changed to 4
am. If I check "UTC" this time will also be saved to my bios clock.

Is this the correct timestamp? Because the times would be wrong from my
point of view (Europe). Or am I missing something here?

>  If only there were a nice way that worked across desktops to inhibit
>  the screensaver being triggered.  Alas, not there yet 
Not sure if this is the screensaver. In KDE it is disabled. In my test
with openbox I haven't startet any.

Sebastian

[Rex Dieter]

Sebastian Vahl wrote:
>  Hi.
>  
>  When installaling a kde livecd and selecting a different timezone (eg. one 
>  from europe) the monitor will suspend
>  
>  When I select a different timezone (eg. one from europe) in Anaconda during 
>  installation from a kde livecd the monitor will suspend when Anaconda changes 
>  the timezone (AFAIK after formatting the partitions). It will come back when 
>  moving the mouse or hitting any key. But I think this is a little bit 
>  confusing for non-experienced users. 
Just tried out installing F7t4 kde livecd myself today, and was unable
to reproduce what you describe.

-- Rex

[Sebastian Vahl]

Am Mon, 07 May 2007 20:19:14 -0500
schrieb Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu&gt;:

>  Sebastian Vahl wrote:
>  > Hi.
>  > 
>  > When installaling a kde livecd and selecting a different timezone
>  > (eg. one from europe) the monitor will suspend
>  > 
>  > When I select a different timezone (eg. one from europe) in
>  > Anaconda during installation from a kde livecd the monitor will
>  > suspend when Anaconda changes the timezone (AFAIK after formatting
>  > the partitions). It will come back when moving the mouse or hitting
>  > any key. But I think this is a little bit confusing for
>  > non-experienced users.
>  
>  Just tried out installing F7t4 kde livecd myself today, and was unable
>  to reproduce what you describe. 
Maybe this is related to the used monitor? I use a Samsung Samtron 76E.

Sebastian