livecd when converted to liveusb fails ?!?

[Valent Turkovic]

Hi,
I just released Fusion Linux 14 Beta
(http://fusionlinux.org/downloads/), I can start image both in
qemu-kvm and VirtualBox as livedvd but after transfering image to usb
stick with liveusb-creator image doesn't even start to load.

Has anybody tried booting Fedora 14 livecd as liveusb? Does it work for you?

I'm interested what issue is causing this, any help is more than appreciated.

Cheers,
Valent.

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[Scott Dowdle]

Valent,

----- Original Message -----
>  I just released Fusion Linux 14 Beta
>  (http://fusionlinux.org/downloads/), I can start image both in
>  qemu-kvm and VirtualBox as livedvd but after transfering image to usb
>  stick with liveusb-creator image doesn't even start to load.
>  
>  Has anybody tried booting Fedora 14 livecd as liveusb? Does it work
>  for you?
>  
>  I'm interested what issue is causing this, any help is more than
>  appreciated. 
I frequently convert all of my builds from Fedora 14 to LiveUSB and they work fine for me.
 Some machines do have trouble booting LiveUSB at all... and a few I've seen that
typically boot just fine, decide to stop booting once the USB device gets bigger than a
certain size.  For example, I've seen a few machines that work fine with 2GB USB
drives but fail with 4GB.  Anyway, try your LiveUSB on a variety of machines and see what
happens.  What size USB thumbdrive are you using?

TYL,
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[Valent Turkovic]

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Scott Dowdle <dowdle(a)montanalinux.org&gt; wrote:
>  Valent,
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> > I just released Fusion Linux 14 Beta
> > (http://fusionlinux.org/downloads/), I can start image both in
> > qemu-kvm and VirtualBox as livedvd but after transfering image to usb
> > stick with liveusb-creator image doesn't even start to load.
> >
> > Has anybody tried booting Fedora 14 livecd as liveusb? Does it work
> > for you?
> >
> > I'm interested what issue is causing this, any help is more than
> > appreciated.
>
>  I frequently convert all of my builds from Fedora 14 to LiveUSB and they work fine for
> me.  Some machines do have trouble booting LiveUSB at all... and a few I've seen that
> typically boot just fine, decide to stop booting once the USB device gets bigger than a
> certain size.  For example, I've seen a few machines that work fine with 2GB USB
> drives but fail with 4GB.  Anyway, try your LiveUSB on a variety of machines and see what
> happens.  What size USB thumbdrive are you using?
>
>  TYL, 
Thanks, that is good feedback, maybe my usb is having issues. I'll try
with few other. I had no issues booting F13 image from 2,4 and 8gb usb
sticks that I have. I tried only with 2gb for now but I'll try others
now that I know that your F14 image is working ok.

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[Valent Turkovic]

>  Thanks, that is good feedback, maybe my usb is having issues.
> I'll try
>  with few other. I had no issues booting F13 image from 2,4 and 8gb usb
>  sticks that I have. I tried only with 2gb for now but I'll try others
>  now that I know that your F14 image is working ok. 
Fusion Linux 14 beta iso [1] image works in VMs (both kvm and
virtualbox) and when burned to DVD but not as LiveUSB via
liveusb-creator app. Fusion Linux 14 is Fedora Remix and based on
current Fedora 14 packages.

I'll try using dd to transfer iso image to usb and reporting back.


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[Valent Turkovic]

>  I'll try using dd to transfer iso image to usb and reporting
> back.
>  
forgot the link:

[1] http://fusionlinux.org/downloads/

[Scott Dowdle]

Valent,

----- Original Message -----
>  Fusion Linux 14 beta iso [1] image works in VMs (both kvm and
>  virtualbox) and when burned to DVD but not as LiveUSB via
>  liveusb-creator app. Fusion Linux 14 is Fedora Remix and based on
>  current Fedora 14 packages.
>  
>  I'll try using dd to transfer iso image to usb and reporting back. 
Does livecd-iso-to-disk work for you?

I generally use the following commandline:

livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --noverify whatever.iso /dev/sdNn

That is if I don't mind losing everything on the thumbdrive.  It works for me.  I
think the liveusb-creator doesn't work as well.

TYL,
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704 Church Street
Belgrade, MT 59714
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[phone] [work]

[Valent Turkovic]

>  Does livecd-iso-to-disk work for you?
>
>  I generally use the following commandline:
>
>  livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --noverify whatever.iso /dev/sdNn
>
>  That is if I don't mind losing everything on the thumbdrive.  It works for me.  I
> think the liveusb-creator doesn't work as well. 
I'll try livecd-iso-to-disk right now, but I got spoiled by
livecd-creator, I like that it doesn't delete files already on usb.

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[Valent Turkovic]

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Valent Turkovic
<valent.turkovic(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > Does livecd-iso-to-disk work for you?
> >
> > I generally use the following commandline:
> >
> > livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --noverify whatever.iso /dev/sdNn
> >
> > That is if I don't mind losing everything on the thumbdrive.  It works for me.  I
> think the liveusb-creator doesn't work as well.
>
>  I'll try livecd-iso-to-disk right now, but I got spoiled by
>  livecd-creator, I like that it doesn't delete files already on usb. 
livecd-iso-to-disk works, thanks!

reported bug for livecd-creator:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=644862

[Scott Dowdle]

Valent,

----- Original Message -----
>  > livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --noverify whatever.iso
>  > /dev/sdNn
>  
>  I'll try livecd-iso-to-disk right now, but I got spoiled by
>  livecd-creator, I like that it doesn't delete files already on usb. 
You don't have to use use all of those flags if you don't want to... and you can
keep the data on the thumbdrive if desired... but using those flags should work on most
any thumbdrive without having to prepare it in any way.  You can leave off the --format
flag or add a few additional flags for persistent data and an encrypted home dir.  Just
read the man page for complete info.

TYL,
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Scott Dowdle
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Belgrade, MT 59714
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[Marc Herbert]

Le 16/10/2010 19:01, Scott Dowdle a écrit :
 
>  I frequently convert all of my builds from Fedora 14 to LiveUSB and
>  they work fine for me.  Some machines do have trouble booting
>  LiveUSB at all... 

USB booting is tricky. There are several "standards". See:

 <http://syslinux.zytor.com/doc/usbkey.txt>
 <http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/doc-makebootfat.html#7>


I do not use liveusb-creator but makebootfat + livecd-iso-to-disk on a
loopback device with good success. More precisely:

 cd /usr/share/makebootfat/x86

 makebootfat --syslinux2 --mbrfat --zip \
    --boot ldlinux.bss --mbr mbrfat.bin   \
    -O foobar -L "${FATLABEL}"     \
    -v -o $LOOPDEV "$EMPTYDIR"