Re: keeping tags in sync with maildirs?

[Brendan Taylor]

(Sorry for breaking the thread, I just subscribed so this is a manual reply.)


Selene Scriven wrote:
>  One issue I've noticed is that notmuch forgets everything it 
>  knows about a message (such as tags I've assigned) after that 
>  message is [s]aved from one maildir to another in mutt...  which 
>  is probably because mutt actually does a copy-then-delete instead 
>  of simply moving it.  Any idea how to avoid this? 
I just started using mutt-kz and am having a similar problem.

I'm trying to use this macro to archive mail that I'm done with to a 
different maildir, with different notmuch labels:

macro index S
"<modify-labels>-inbox\n<previous-entry><save-message>=archives\n<previous-entry><modify-labels>"

"notmuch new" doesn't detect the rename, it treats it as a new file.

keeping tags in sync with maildirs?

[AJ Lewis]

I have my archive macro look like this:
macro index S "<modify-labels-then-hide>+archive
-inbox\n<sync-mailbox>" "archive message"

I'm using offlineimap, and I have this as a prefetch script:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MAILDIR=${HOME}/ssd/Maildir
# Make sure db is up-to-date
notmuch new
# First move any mail that's still in the INBOX, but tagged as archive to
# the Reference folder
OLDIFS=$IFS
IFS=`echo -en "\n\b"`;
for v in `notmuch search --output=files -- tag:archive and
folder:${MAILDIR}/INBOX`; do
  if [ -f "$v" ]; then
     echo "Moving $v"
     mv -f "$v" ${MAILDIR}/Reference/cur/
  else
     echo "'$v' is not longer present"
  fi 
done
IFS=$OLDIFS

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So basically I have a script move the mail around between folders based on
nomuch tags rather than manually move them with mutt.  I don't know why what
you're doing wouldn't work though, unless the directory it's getting moved
to isn't in the notmuch search path...

AJ

On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:34:41AM -0700, Brendan Taylor wrote:
>  (Sorry for breaking the thread, I just subscribed so this is a manual
> reply.)
>  
>  
>  Selene Scriven wrote:
>  > One issue I've noticed is that notmuch forgets everything it 
>  > knows about a message (such as tags I've assigned) after that 
>  > message is [s]aved from one maildir to another in mutt...  which 
>  > is probably because mutt actually does a copy-then-delete instead 
>  > of simply moving it.  Any idea how to avoid this?
>  
>  I just started using mutt-kz and am having a similar problem.
>  
>  I'm trying to use this macro to archive mail that I'm done with to a 
>  different maildir, with different notmuch labels:
>  
>  macro index S
> "<modify-labels>-inbox\n<previous-entry><save-message>=archives\n<previous-entry><modify-labels>"
>  
>  "notmuch new" doesn't detect the rename, it treats it as a new file.
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keeping tags in sync with maildirs?

[Selene Scriven]

* AJ Lewis <aj.lewis(a)quantum.com&gt; wrote:
>  So basically I have a script move the mail around between 
>  folders based on nomuch tags rather than manually move them 
>  with mutt. 
Me too, but I'm doing it via 'afew' instead of directly.

I have a setup which is something like this...

~/.mutt/rc.kz.work:
# organize by maildirs and/or tags
virtual-mailboxes \
  "INBOX" "notmuch://?query=folder:work AND folder:in AND NOT
tag:archive" \
  "TODO"  "notmuch://?query=folder:work AND folder:in AND NOT tag:archive
AND tag:todo" \
  "Foo"   "notmuch://?query=folder:work AND (folder:foo OR tag:foo) AND
folder:in AND NOT tag:archive" \
  "Bar"   "notmuch://?query=folder:work AND (folder:bar OR tag:bar) AND
folder:in AND NOT tag:archive" \
  "All lists" "notmuch://?query=folder:work AND tag:lists AND folder:in AND
NOT tag:archive" \
  "--- Archives ---" "notmuch://?query=tag:none-arch" \
  "All"   "notmuch://?query=folder:work AND (tag:archive OR NOT
folder:in)" \
  "Done"  "notmuch://?query=folder:work AND (tag:archive OR NOT folder:in)
AND tag:todo" \
  "A/Foo" "notmuch://?query=folder:work AND (folder:foo OR tag:foo) AND
(tag:archive OR NOT folder:in))" \
  "A/Bar" "notmuch://?query=folder:work AND (folder:bar OR tag:bar) AND
(tag:archive OR NOT folder:in))" \

# archive tagged messages
macro index aa "<tag-prefix><modify-labels>+archive
-inbox<Enter><tag-prefix><tag-entry><sync-mailbox>"
# stuff I need to do
macro index mt "<modify-labels>+todo<Enter><sync-mailbox>"
macro index mT "<modify-labels>-todo<Enter><sync-mailbox>"   #
don't need to do it after all
# mark/arch as foo
macro index mf "<modify-labels>+foo<Enter><sync-mailbox>"
macro index af "<tag-prefix><modify-labels>+foo +archive
-inbox<Enter><tag-prefix><tag-entry><sync-mailbox>"
# mark/arch as bar
macro index mb "<modify-labels>+bar<Enter><sync-mailbox>"
macro index ab "<tag-prefix><modify-labels>+bar +archive
-inbox<Enter><tag-prefix><tag-entry><sync-mailbox>"

~/.config/afew/config:
[MailMover]
folders = work/in work/foo/in work/bar/in
work/in = \
  'tag:archive AND tag:foo':work/foo \
  'tag:archive AND tag:bar':work/bar \
  'tag:archive':work
work/foo/in = 'tag:archive':work/foo
work/bar/in = 'tag:archive':work/bar

This isn't the exact setup, of course, but I hope it demonstrates 
the basic idea.  Some things get delivered into a variety of 
maildirs (via procmail), while others go into a main inbox and 
are simply tagged (via 'afew').  I can tag and archive several 
topics with short key sequences like 'mf' to mark something as 
'foo', or 'ab' to archive something as topic 'bar'.  If a message

is already tagged properly, I can simply 'aa' to archive all 
messages currently selected in mutt.

The messages then get moved into appropriate maildirs by 'afew', 
next time it runs.  This (afew --move-mails) happens in my 
fetchmail polling script, just after 'notmuch new' and 'afew 
--tag --new'.

>  I don't know why what you're doing wouldn't work though,
> unless 
>  the directory it's getting moved to isn't in the notmuch search 
>  path... 
No idea, but when mutt moves the message (copy+delete), notmuch 
views it as entirely new...  while other tools can move messages 
just fine.


-- Selene