Fact-check - OLPC News Article

[Karlie Robinson]

I was asked by Wayan Vota of OLPCNews.com to prepare a short article 
about the F10 SD cards. 

The ending needs a wrap up, but could you check this rough draft for me? 
http://on-disk.com/cms/index.php?wiki=preview

Anything jump out at you as wrong?  Either fact wise, or 
spelling/grammar wise? 

Thanks in advance. 

~Karlie

[Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]

On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 12:04 -0500, Karlie Robinson wrote:
>  The ending needs a wrap up, but could you check this rough draft for
> me? 
>  http://on-disk.com/cms/index.php?wiki=preview
>  
>  Anything jump out at you as wrong?  Either fact wise, or 
>  spelling/grammar wise?  
Lots of very, very small paragraphs. I would fuse the following
paragraphs:

1 and 2
3 and 4
9 and 10

I would avoid mentioning "Amazon's commission" in paragraph 8 and simply
state that you are an "alternate source". And "download" should be
"downloading".

"Support for the" at the beginning of paragraph 9 should just be
"The"
or "This".

"(Linux, Apple, Microsoft)" in paragraph 4 are not quite in the same
class, but that's probably more my pedantry than an actual problem per
se. Perhaps "(Linux, Mac, Windows)" might be better, although still not
quite precise. But everyone knows it as "Mac" and not "OS X".

The "or" in paragraph 11 should be "nor", and "the cards,"
should be
"them,".

-- 
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet(a)gmail.com&gt;

PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed

[Karlie Robinson]

Thanks.

I have to run out to a meeting, I'll update it when I get back. 

~K

Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
>  On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 12:04 -0500, Karlie Robinson wrote:
>    
> > The ending needs a wrap up, but could you check this rough draft for me? 
> > http://on-disk.com/cms/index.php?wiki=preview
> >
> > Anything jump out at you as wrong?  Either fact wise, or 
> > spelling/grammar wise? 
> >     
>
>  Lots of very, very small paragraphs. I would fuse the following
>  paragraphs:
>
>  1 and 2
>  3 and 4
>  9 and 10
>
>  I would avoid mentioning "Amazon's commission" in paragraph 8 and simply
>  state that you are an "alternate source". And "download" should be
>  "downloading".
>
>  "Support for the" at the beginning of paragraph 9 should just be
> "The"
>  or "This".
>
>  "(Linux, Apple, Microsoft)" in paragraph 4 are not quite in the same
>  class, but that's probably more my pedantry than an actual problem per
>  se. Perhaps "(Linux, Mac, Windows)" might be better, although still not
>  quite precise. But everyone knows it as "Mac" and not "OS X".
>
>  The "or" in paragraph 11 should be "nor", and "the cards,"
> should be
>  "them,".
>
>    
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Ready for production....just need the product.

[Todd Robinson]

Who can I talk to about getting the final F10 XO image ASAP so we 
(On-Disk.com) can start production?

Or should I build it using the latest livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script + 
final live i686 ISO to make the XO SD card layout? If so, can I get a 
early download link for the ISO and the exact livecd-iso-to-disk.sh 
script that you wish to be used for the final product?


Thank you,
Todd

Ready for production....just need the product.

[Ed McNierney]

Todd -

I would be absolutely certain to check with Jeremy Katz to be sure you  
are indeed using the latest livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script.  There have  
been some recent fixes that you need to have.  Otherwise I would be  
also sure that you have a final F10 ISO image and wait for feedback on  
others doing testing, especially testing on different ROM versions  
(unless you're planning on doing that yourself).  I just want to  
encourage you to take a little extra time for testing before you start  
cranking on duplication!

	- Ed


On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Todd Robinson wrote:

>  Who can I talk to about getting the final F10 XO image ASAP so we  
>  (On-Disk.com) can start production?
>
>  Or should I build it using the latest livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script +  
>  final live i686 ISO to make the XO SD card layout? If so, can I get  
>  a early download link for the ISO and the exact livecd-iso-to- 
>  disk.sh script that you wish to be used for the final product?
>
>
>  Thank you,
>  Todd
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  Fedora-olpc-list mailing list
>  Fedora-olpc-list(a)redhat.com
>  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list

Ready for production....just need the product.

[Todd Robinson]

I'm not really sure what to do here. I emailed Jeremy yesterday and 
haven't heard back.

At this point we have customers expecting to have their orders shipped 
TODAY, and I still don't have the final livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script we 
are supposed to use, or an ISO to use it on. There will still be a 
couple of hours of testing after getting them before we can do a 
production run. With each passing means that just that many more 
customers will not have their orders mailed out today.

We have been told all along that F10 for the XO would be finished BEFORE 
today, and that there wouldn't be a problem getting what we needed for 
production prior to the F10 release. Obviously getting anything in 
advance is no longer possible, and I'm wondering, from the lack of input 
here, just where things stand?


It's crunch time here and all I hear are crickets chirping.


Ed McNierney wrote:
>  Todd -
>
>  I would be absolutely certain to check with Jeremy Katz to be sure you 
>  are indeed using the latest livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script.  There have 
>  been some recent fixes that you need to have.  Otherwise I would be 
>  also sure that you have a final F10 ISO image and wait for feedback on 
>  others doing testing, especially testing on different ROM versions 
>  (unless you're planning on doing that yourself).  I just want to 
>  encourage you to take a little extra time for testing before you start 
>  cranking on duplication!
>
>      - Ed
>
>
>  On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Todd Robinson wrote:
>
> > Who can I talk to about getting the final F10 XO image ASAP so we 
> > (On-Disk.com) can start production?
> >
> > Or should I build it using the latest livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script + 
> > final live i686 ISO to make the XO SD card layout? If so, can I get a 
> > early download link for the ISO and the exact livecd-iso-to-disk.sh 
> > script that you wish to be used for the final product?
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Todd
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fedora-olpc-list mailing list
> > Fedora-olpc-list(a)redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list
>

Ready for production....just need the product.

[Ed McNierney]

Todd -

I don't understand why someone thought F10 for the XO would be done  
BEFORE today, since today's the GA release date (and has been for some  
time).  I certainly never expected to see a GA release sooner, and in  
fact expected you'd take a day or two after getting the GA release to  
make sure you were comfortable with it before going into production.

I have always relied on the livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script from Jeremy  
at http://katzj.fedorapeople.org/olpc/ and while I would wait to hear  
from him before production, I believe that is the right source.  The  
most recent version is dated yesterday (24-Nov-2008).

	- Ed


On Nov 25, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Todd Robinson wrote:

>  I'm not really sure what to do here. I emailed Jeremy yesterday
> and  
>  haven't heard back.
>
>  At this point we have customers expecting to have their orders  
>  shipped TODAY, and I still don't have the final livecd-iso-to- 
>  disk.sh script we are supposed to use, or an ISO to use it on. There  
>  will still be a couple of hours of testing after getting them before  
>  we can do a production run. With each passing means that just that  
>  many more customers will not have their orders mailed out today.
>
>  We have been told all along that F10 for the XO would be finished  
>  BEFORE today, and that there wouldn't be a problem getting what we  
>  needed for production prior to the F10 release. Obviously getting  
>  anything in advance is no longer possible, and I'm wondering, from  
>  the lack of input here, just where things stand?
>
>
>  It's crunch time here and all I hear are crickets chirping.
>
>
>  Ed McNierney wrote:
> > Todd -
> >
> > I would be absolutely certain to check with Jeremy Katz to be sure  
> > you are indeed using the latest livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script.   
> > There have been some recent fixes that you need to have.  Otherwise  
> > I would be also sure that you have a final F10 ISO image and wait  
> > for feedback on others doing testing, especially testing on  
> > different ROM versions (unless you're planning on doing that  
> > yourself).  I just want to encourage you to take a little extra  
> > time for testing before you start cranking on duplication!
> >
> >    - Ed
> >
> >
> > On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Todd Robinson wrote:
> >
> >> Who can I talk to about getting the final F10 XO image ASAP so we  
> >> (On-Disk.com) can start production?
> >>
> >> Or should I build it using the latest livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script  
> >> + final live i686 ISO to make the XO SD card layout? If so, can I  
> >> get a early download link for the ISO and the exact livecd-iso-to- 
> >> disk.sh script that you wish to be used for the final product?
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Todd
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Fedora-olpc-list mailing list
> >> Fedora-olpc-list(a)redhat.com
> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list
> >
>

Ready for production....just need the product.

[Jeremy Katz]

On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 09:58 -0500, Todd Robinson wrote:
>  I'm not really sure what to do here. I emailed Jeremy yesterday
> and 
>  haven't heard back. 
Hmmm... I didn't see a message yesterday and I'm not seeing one looking
back in my mail either.  In any case...

>  At this point we have customers expecting to have their orders
> shipped 
>  TODAY, and I still don't have the final livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script we 
>  are supposed to use, or an ISO to use it on. There will still be a 
>  couple of hours of testing after getting them before we can do a 
>  production run. With each passing means that just that many more 
>  customers will not have their orders mailed out today. 
The ISO should be grabbable (it's the main Fedora 10 live image) or if
you can't get it, let me know and I can try to give you a few other
links that might get better bandwidth.  

[katzj@aglarond Live]$ sha1sum F10-i686-Live.iso 
c0efba4eb55c142bcda3d78d8a02fada2339a220  F10-i686-Live.iso

And the livecd-iso-to-disk script is at
http://katzj.fedorapeople.org/olpc/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh -- basically
the same as what's on the ISO with one minor fix for quoting that I
noticed Ignacio mentioned on IRC yesterday

Jeremy

Ready for production....just need the product.

[Todd Robinson]

Jeremy, If I go ahead and make a functioning SD card with this script 
and the F10 Live ISO, can I image it and use it as the Official Fedora 
10 XO release? (By functioning I mean put in both the XOs we have here 
and have it boot successfully to the desktop.)

At this point we need someone to tell us what to use for the Official 
Fedora 10 XO SD card release.


Thank you,
Todd




Jeremy Katz wrote:
>  On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 09:58 -0500, Todd Robinson wrote:
>    
> > I'm not really sure what to do here. I emailed Jeremy yesterday and 
> > haven't heard back.
> >     
>
>  Hmmm... I didn't see a message yesterday and I'm not seeing one looking
>  back in my mail either.  In any case...
>
>    
> > At this point we have customers expecting to have their orders shipped 
> > TODAY, and I still don't have the final livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script we 
> > are supposed to use, or an ISO to use it on. There will still be a 
> > couple of hours of testing after getting them before we can do a 
> > production run. With each passing means that just that many more 
> > customers will not have their orders mailed out today.
> >     
>
>  The ISO should be grabbable (it's the main Fedora 10 live image) or if
>  you can't get it, let me know and I can try to give you a few other
>  links that might get better bandwidth.  
>
>  [katzj@aglarond Live]$ sha1sum F10-i686-Live.iso 
>  c0efba4eb55c142bcda3d78d8a02fada2339a220  F10-i686-Live.iso
>
>  And the livecd-iso-to-disk script is at
>  http://katzj.fedorapeople.org/olpc/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh -- basically
>  the same as what's on the ISO with one minor fix for quoting that I
>  noticed Ignacio mentioned on IRC yesterday
>
>  Jeremy
>
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>

Ready for production....just need the product.

[Jeremy Katz]

On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 11:45 -0500, Todd Robinson wrote:
>  Jeremy, If I go ahead and make a functioning SD card with this script
>
>  and the F10 Live ISO, can I image it and use it as the Official Fedora 
>  10 XO release? (By functioning I mean put in both the XOs we have here 
>  and have it boot successfully to the desktop.)
>  
>  At this point we need someone to tell us what to use for the Official 
>  Fedora 10 XO SD card release. 
Yep, that's exactly right.  And I'd suggest
   livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --xo --overlay-size-mb 512 --swap-size-mb 256
F10-i686-Live.iso /path/to/sd/card

as the specific arguments to use

Jeremy

Ready for production....just need the product.

[Todd Robinson]

Excellent, thank you.

Jeremy Katz wrote:
>  On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 11:45 -0500, Todd Robinson wrote:
>    
> > Jeremy, If I go ahead and make a functioning SD card with this script 
> > and the F10 Live ISO, can I image it and use it as the Official Fedora 
> > 10 XO release? (By functioning I mean put in both the XOs we have here 
> > and have it boot successfully to the desktop.)
> >
> > At this point we need someone to tell us what to use for the Official 
> > Fedora 10 XO SD card release.
> >     
>
>  Yep, that's exactly right.  And I'd suggest
>     livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --xo --overlay-size-mb 512 --swap-size-mb 256
>  F10-i686-Live.iso /path/to/sd/card
>
>  as the specific arguments to use
>
>  Jeremy
>
>

Ready for production....just need the product.

[Ed McNierney]

Todd -

I noticed that Jeremy updated his script today (later than the date I  
mentioned to you earlier) so you should be sure to grab the newest  
copy while you're waiting for F10 to download.

	- Ed


On Nov 25, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Todd Robinson wrote:

>  Excellent, thank you.
>
>  Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 11:45 -0500, Todd Robinson wrote:
> >
> >> Jeremy, If I go ahead and make a functioning SD card with this  
> >> script and the F10 Live ISO, can I image it and use it as the  
> >> Official Fedora 10 XO release? (By functioning I mean put in both  
> >> the XOs we have here and have it boot successfully to the desktop.)
> >>
> >> At this point we need someone to tell us what to use for the  
> >> Official Fedora 10 XO SD card release.
> >>
> >
> > Yep, that's exactly right.  And I'd suggest
> >   livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --xo --overlay-size-mb 512 --swap-size-mb 256
> > F10-i686-Live.iso /path/to/sd/card
> >
> > as the specific arguments to use
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> >
>
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Ready for production....just need the product.

[Jeremy Katz]

On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 14:22 -0500, Ed McNierney wrote:
>  I noticed that Jeremy updated his script today (later than the date I
>  
>  mentioned to you earlier) so you should be sure to grab the newest  
>  copy while you're waiting for F10 to download. 
It actually should be the same thing; I just wasn't sure if I had scp'd
yesterday after fixing the escaping thing Ignacio mentioned on IRC and
so wanted to make sure as that's the future-proofing for newer firmwares

Jeremy