On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 7:29 AM Matthias Clasen mclasen@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 1:23 PM Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Wading into this discussion pretty late... there's far too much "GNOME does this" or "GNOME wants that" in this discussion.
That is really not how it works, neither for GNOME nor for Fedora - its down to small teams and individual maintainers to make changes and decisions. For improving the QA situation between upstream GNOME and downstream Fedora, a good team to talk to is the GNOME release team of which both Michael and I happen to be members.
Testing that is much more useful to upstream than testing Rawhide, because we certainly aren't updating all the bits of GNOME in Rawhide nightly. But if it's not built on Fedora (I don't think it is), it may well have differences in theme and font configuration that might make Fedora's openQA needles not match, which is the problem I'm concerned about with sharing the tests.
Could we (GNOME and Fedora in collaboration) set up something where they _are_ updating everything on top of Rawhide nightly? If not instead of GNOME OS, at least alongside it?
This would be a useful discussion to have, Having it in a bof at guadec sounds great.
One of the things we're working on in the KDE SIG is eventually auto-building all our KDE software in a COPR on a regular schedule, with the goal of eventually producing something that we could wire up to run through OpenQA tests using that COPR repo for precisely this purpose. I think it would absolutely make sense if the folks maintaining GNOME did the same thing, since they're both release blocking desktops.