On 14 Aug 2003, Jef Spaleta wrote:
Kyle Maxwell wrote:
But some decisions are starting to leave me in the cold
Err..well...i'm going to give red hat a pretty long lead time on when I expect them to get this whole external communication thing close to the right ballpark.
One of the reasons why things are taking a while is that everybody was away, first in Otawa for OLS and then at Linuxworld in California.
I think it helps to think of this beta as still a traditional beta....the community project still needs a lot of flushing out...as a concept its alpha.
Indeed, since the project went live around the same time as the Severn beta (beta == code freeze) this time the core release probably won't have all that much community input. Personally I hope this will result in a culture of using external repositories so the core distribution for the next version could be shrunk ;))
Of course I'm a kernel guy and mostly an onlooker when it comes to the distribution. I wouldn't be surprised if the people who are doing the actual work of putting together the distro ended up taking the decision of putting more cool stuff in their own repository, grabbing it from external repositories. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised by a "move stuff into external repositories and out of the core distro" movement, either.
I am very curious which of the two will happen, though...
I can just imagine how much internal discussion is being generated....
We are trying to discuss all the technical things in public, though. On the rhl-devel-list and also in threads on this list.
and I can only hope the hatters show as good a sense of knowing how to schedule a "release" of the project framework as they do about pushing out distro releases.
That is one of our requirements. We want this distribution to be at least as good for our own personal use as Red Hat Linux has been. That doesn't just mean a regular stable release with "fresh bits"; for me personally it also means being able to point the same update tool I use for the core distribution at other repositories, like freshrpms, fedora and a repository with some of my own RPMS.
Note that even though I work at Red Hat, I don't think I will be trying to get the RPMS I am interested in into the core distribution. I want to publish the stuff I want to do in an external repository in order to: 1) have freedom on how I maintain things 2) run my own release schedule, independant of the core distribution and, most importantly 3) not hold up the core distribution when my packages lag because I'm busy with the kernel
In short, I want to have all the benefits of a stable and regularly updated core distribution, while not adding the maintenance burden of my personal packages wishlist to that core distribution.