Re: RH recommends using Windows?

[J M]

To an extent I can understand what he is saying.  It's sort of the middle
ground from saying that Linux is [not] ready for the desktop.  On one hand
he is saying yes for the business it is.  For the home user maybe not.

And it's true.  You aren't gonna get iTunes or Napster 2.0 for Linux anytime
soon, you won't see Half Life 2, Lock On: Modern Air Combat, or Everquest II
released at the same time as the Windows versions, and let's face it; maybe
not for you, or me, or most technically inclined people, but it is harder to
set up than a Mac and therefore too difficult for many.  But you can get
you're productivity suite, browser, email client, etc.  So for many
businesses it will be plenty suitable.

This does leave the question of who the hell is supposed to use Fedora...  I
guess people like me who are willing to pay maybe $60 for an RHN account; if
that is still an option mind you, but not $179 for a RHEL WS license.  I
loved RedHat 5.2-9.0.  And the advnace it has made in that time is
borderline miraculous.  The stability has been second to none as well.  It
has been without a doubt more than adequate for running my personal 'server'
on, and has led me to push for adoption of Linux products including RHEL in
businesses.  My only hope is that RedHat doesn't make Fedora into the
bastard child not worthy of tinkering on, let alone running my PoS personal
server on, because then I will to a large degree fall out of touch, and then
I cannot recommend it on personal experience anymore.  But I am optimistic.

RH recommends using Windows?

[nosp]

On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 17:06, Jason Montleon wrote:
[...]
>  And it's true.  You aren't gonna get iTunes or Napster 2.0
> for Linux anytime
>  soon, you won't see Half Life 2, Lock On: Modern Air Combat, or Everquest II
>  released at the same time as the Windows versions, and let's face it; maybe
>  not for you, or me, or most technically inclined people, but it is harder to
>  set up than a Mac and therefore too difficult for many.  But you can get
>  you're productivity suite, browser, email client, etc.  So for many
>  businesses it will be plenty suitable. 
Exactly -- it will probably help productivity since 1) it's more stable;
2) generally more secure; and 3) harder for the average user to do
something to hose their machine.


>  This does leave the question of who the hell is supposed to use
> Fedora...  I
>  guess people like me 
Yup, sounds like it.

>  My only hope is that RedHat doesn't make Fedora into the
>  bastard child not worthy of tinkering on, let alone running my PoS personal
>  server on, because then I will to a large degree fall out of touch, and then
>  I cannot recommend it on personal experience anymore.  But I am optimistic. 
Redhat seems to want to use Fedora as a feeder for its Enterprise
product line, so I think their official position certainly justifies
your optimism.

RH recommends using Windows?

[Paul W. Frields]

On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 12:06, Jason Montleon wrote:
>  This does leave the question of who the hell is supposed to use
>  Fedora...  I guess people like me who are willing to pay maybe $60 for
>  an RHN account; if that is still an option mind you, but not $179 for
>  a RHEL WS license. 
Developers, enthusiasts, early adopters, geeks, techies, and anyone who
was comfortable downloading a free copy of Red Hat Linux in the past,
installing it and getting to work. In other words, you, me and probably
most if not all of the people on this list. And now (or pretty soon at
least) we get to participate in the process of its direction and growth
more fully.

>  I loved RedHat 5.2-9.0.  And the advnace it has made in that time is
>  borderline miraculous.  The stability has been second to none as
>  well.  It has been without a doubt more than adequate for running my
>  personal 'server' on, and has led me to push for adoption of Linux
>  products including RHEL in businesses.  My only hope is that RedHat
>  doesn't make Fedora into the bastard child not worthy of tinkering on,
>  let alone running my PoS personal server on, because then I will to a
>  large degree fall out of touch, and then I cannot recommend it on
>  personal experience anymore.  But I am optimistic. 
I wouldn't expect that at all; remember that Fedora Core is going to be
the testing ground for what happens to Red Hat Enterprise Linux, meaning
Fedora users will see new technologies first, just like we did with Red
Hat Linux. I have a feeling you don't need to be overly optimistic to
see great things on the horizon.

-- 
Paul W. Frields <paul(a)frields.com&gt;

RH recommends using Windows?

[Elton Woo]

On November 4, 2003 12:06 pm, Jason Montleon , <Jason Montleon 
<monty19(a)hotmail.com&gt;&gt; wrote:

>  And it's true.  You aren't gonna get iTunes or Napster 2.0
> for Linux
>  anytime soon, you won't see Half Life 2, Lock On: Modern Air Combat, or
>  Everquest II released at the same time as the Windows versions, and let's
>  face it; maybe not for you, or me, or most technically inclined people, but
>  it is harder to set up than a Mac and therefore too difficult for many.
>   But you can get you're productivity suite, browser, email client, etc.  So
>  for many businesses it will be plenty suitable. 
That's also why the (other os) is commonly called "windtendo". 
You wanna play games, buy a Nintendo, or a "Wintendo". Only difference,
the *price*...

Elton   >-)))) ....
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