2:14 p.m.
Fairly recently system-config-mouse vanished from development
packages. Was this a deliberate decision and if yes then what I am
supposed to use now to configure mouse properties? It does not
look that there something which takes over these functions. Did I
miss it?
Michal
2:19 p.m.
Michal Jaegermann wrote:
Fairly recently system-config-mouse vanished from development
packages. Was this a deliberate decision and if yes then what I am
supposed to use now to configure mouse properties? It does not
look that there something which takes over these functions. Did I
miss it?
Michal
Development tree related questions are more appropriate for the
fedora-test list. Kindly post there
regards
Rahul
10:40 a.m.
On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 13:14 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
Fairly recently system-config-mouse vanished from development
packages. Was this a deliberate decision and if yes then what I am
supposed to use now to configure mouse properties?
Yes it was a deliberate decision to remove it- it's not been used by the
installer or x configuration code for some time and it's not been in the
menus for configuration tools.
It does not
look that there something which takes over these functions. Did I
miss it?
What sort of configuration do you require? AFAIK s-c-mouse has had very
little use for the past few releases, other than for serial mice support
- which we've also not supported in the installer for a while either.
Paul
11:34 a.m.
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:40:42AM -0400, Paul Nasrat wrote:
On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 13:14 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> Fairly recently system-config-mouse vanished from development
> packages. Was this a deliberate decision and if yes then what I am
> supposed to use now to configure mouse properties?
Yes it was a deliberate decision to remove it- ....
Thanks for the explanation.
What sort of configuration do you require?
That turned out to be a misunderstanding on my part. I was under a
false impression that what you see on menus under "Preferences->Mouse"
is actually supplied by system-config-mouse and this is clearly not
the case. How things are put together is too well hidden. :-)
OTOH nothing seems to supply "Obsoletes:" for system-config-mouse
so if it was installed on the system previously it will linger until
somebody will catch up and remove it explicitely. Maybe there
should be a fake package with a sole role of providing "obsoletes"
for things which otherwise do not fit naturally somewhere else?
'system-config-mouse' seems to be harmless so far but from time to
time somebody has update problems because they have still installed
something long gone. Still such fake package if too aggresive could
be PITA as well; so without a real conflict things should not be
added to such list. Yes, I know that yum can "list obsoletes" and
maybe that is good enough. Just thinking aloud ....
Thanks again,
Michal
10:45 p.m.
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 10:34 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:40:42AM -0400, Paul Nasrat wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 13:14 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
That turned out to be a misunderstanding on my part. I was under a
false impression that what you see on menus under "Preferences->Mouse"
is actually supplied by system-config-mouse and this is clearly not
the case. How things are put together is too well hidden. :-)
Yup - that's gnome-mouse-properties and much more relevant to the end
user experience. We should just get mouse/touchpad configuration right
for the end user, so system-config-mouse is going away.
OTOH nothing seems to supply "Obsoletes:" for
system-config-mouse
so if it was installed on the system previously it will linger until
somebody will catch up and remove it explicitely. Maybe there
should be a fake package with a sole role of providing "obsoletes"
for things which otherwise do not fit naturally somewhere else?
We do blacklist things to remove on upgrades in anaconda, which is the
"supported" method of doing upgrades, I'm sure it'll be noted in any
document of worth describing updating to FC5 by other means.
Paul
2:47 a.m.
On Sep 21, 2005, Paul Nasrat <pnasrat(a)redhat.com> wrote:
We should just get mouse/touchpad configuration right for the end
user, so system-config-mouse is going away.
And then, what happens when someone purchases a new touchpad for a box
that didn't have any before? Reinstall from scratch to get
configuration right? Or is kudzu smart enough to find the new device
and set it up?
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