i'm trying to use torrent from this location and it is just excruciatingly slow. even after letting it seed for half an hour, i'm getting about 2K download throughput. is there a location for a straight ftp or http download for the "dev" spins? thanks.
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Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm trying to use torrent from this location and it is just excruciatingly slow. even after letting it seed for half an hour, i'm getting about 2K download throughput. is there a location for a straight ftp or http download for the "dev" spins? thanks.
The "Direct Download" links on http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease should be what you're after.
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Todd Zullinger wrote:
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm trying to use torrent from this location and it is just excruciatingly slow. even after letting it seed for half an hour, i'm getting about 2K download throughput. is there a location for a straight ftp or http download for the "dev" spins? thanks.
The "Direct Download" links on http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease should be what you're after.
maybe i'm just blind, but i still don't see a direct download link for those "dev" spins. and, just to make sure those are what i want, are those "development" spins? as in, chock full of development environment and stuff like that there?
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Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Todd Zullinger wrote:
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm trying to use torrent from this location and it is just excruciatingly slow. even after letting it seed for half an hour, i'm getting about 2K download throughput. is there a location for a straight ftp or http download for the "dev" spins? thanks.
The "Direct Download" links on http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease should be what you're after.
maybe i'm just blind, but i still don't see a direct download link for those "dev" spins. and, just to make sure those are what i want, are those "development" spins? as in, chock full of development environment and stuff like that there?
The custom spins are torrent only. Mirrors won't like duplicate content, that much.
Rahul
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Todd Zullinger wrote:
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm trying to use torrent from this location and it is just excruciatingly slow. even after letting it seed for half an hour, i'm getting about 2K download throughput. is there a location for a straight ftp or http download for the "dev" spins? thanks.
The "Direct Download" links on http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease should be what you're after.
maybe i'm just blind, but i still don't see a direct download link for those "dev" spins. and, just to make sure those are what i want, are those "development" spins? as in, chock full of development environment and stuff like that there?
The custom spins are torrent only. Mirrors won't like duplicate content, that much.
fair enough, but i still want to clarify what a "dev" spin is before i download it -- is it a spin targeted at developers, just chock full of dev goodies? cuz that *really* appeals to me. stuff like java and eclipse all ready to go?
and is there a page that goes into detail of the actual contents of those spins? thanks.
rday --
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Robert P. J. Day wrote:
fair enough, but i still want to clarify what a "dev" spin is before i download it -- is it a spin targeted at developers, just chock full of dev goodies? cuz that *really* appeals to me. stuff like java and eclipse all ready to go?
Yes.
and is there a page that goes into detail of the actual contents of those spins? thanks.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue102#Development_Spin
Rahul
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 08:10:59 -0500, "Robert P. J. Day" rpjday@crashcourse.ca wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
and is there a page that goes into detail of the actual contents of those spins? thanks.
The Spin pages should have a description of what goes into them. This was a recent change as part of developing a more well defined spin process and some of the pages (including mine - Live Games DVD) are still being done. Previously some Spins were features and others were just done.
The other thing you can do is look at the kickstart file which is in the spin-kickstarts package to see what it specifically includes. This doesn't show which dependencies are brought in, but it is easier to understand without having to dig through them.
If you don't have that package installed, you can look at the master git tree for spin-kickstarts at: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=tree That may have had changes committed since the alpha spins were made.
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 08:10:59 -0500, "Robert P. J. Day" rpjday@crashcourse.ca wrote:
fair enough, but i still want to clarify what a "dev" spin is before i download it -- is it a spin targeted at developers, just chock full of dev goodies? cuz that *really* appeals to me. stuff like java and eclipse all ready to go?
It does appear to include java development stuff and eclipse.
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
fair enough, but i still want to clarify what a "dev" spin is before i download it -- is it a spin targeted at developers, just chock full of dev goodies?
Developer goodies for GNOME and Java only, unfortunately. :-(
Here's what's on it: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=blob;f=fedora-lived... (Note that the @group notation only pulls in the mandatory and default packages of the group, not the optional ones. For example, cmake is optional in development-tools, so it is NOT dragged in by the @development-tools line.)
Notably missing is any support for KDE development: no KDE or Qt -devel packages, no KDevelop, not even CMake (unless something listed drags it in as a dependency, it's definitely not listed explicitly).
Support for scripting languages is also practically nonexistent. (You get basic installations (with very limited selections of modules) of Python and Perl because they're dragged in by other stuff, but judging from the kickstart, that's about it.)
So I'm afraid I have strong reservations about the usefulness of that spin.
Kevin Kofler
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 13:52:04 -0500, "Robert P. J. Day" rpjday@crashcourse.ca wrote:
i'm trying to use torrent from this location and it is just excruciatingly slow. even after letting it seed for half an hour, i'm getting about 2K download throughput. is there a location for a straight ftp or http download for the "dev" spins? thanks.
The games spin (i686 only) should download relatively quickly. I still have a couple boxes seeding it. Yesterday someone else was seeding it at very high rates (at about 2MB/s), but I don't know if they still are.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpjday@crashcourse.ca wrote:
i'm trying to use torrent from this location and it is just excruciatingly slow. even after letting it seed for half an hour, i'm getting about 2K download throughput. is there a location for a straight ftp or http download for the "dev" spins? thanks.
Other network things OK? I just started Fedora-11-Alpha-i686-Live and it's nicely averaging in the mid 200's KB/s.
jerry
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Jerry Amundson wrote:
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpjday@crashcourse.ca wrote:
i'm trying to use torrent from this location and it is just excruciatingly slow. even after letting it seed for half an hour, i'm getting about 2K download throughput. is there a location for a straight ftp or http download for the "dev" spins? thanks.
Other network things OK? I just started Fedora-11-Alpha-i686-Live and it's nicely averaging in the mid 200's KB/s.
all of my *direct* downloads smoked right along. but, for whatever reason, torrent at this location is nad-grindingly slow. i mean, slooooooow. so i'll take a direct download for those "dev" spins if they exist.
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On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 14:33:20 -0500, "Robert P. J. Day" rpjday@crashcourse.ca wrote:
all of my *direct* downloads smoked right along. but, for whatever reason, torrent at this location is nad-grindingly slow. i mean, slooooooow. so i'll take a direct download for those "dev" spins if they exist.
This has happened in the past as well. I don't remember what the solution was. It was discussed on the Fedora lists. The discussions I remembered predated F10. And I don't remember which release they were associated with.
When I saw it yesterday, while grabbing a copy of the games spin, I was seeing transfer rates of between 2 and 10 KB/s with 2 or 3 peers. Then a second seeder appeared out of the blue (myself and the peers were below 2%) and the transfer rate went to between 1.5 MB/s and 2MB/s.
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