problem with mesa-7.6-0.15+

[Petrus de Calguarium]

KDE compositing (desktop effects) was working spledidly 
until today's updates of mesa/glx. After updating, it was 
no longer possible to log into KDE with desktop effects 
enabled (gnome login remains possible, but compix is 
untested).

As a result, I culled the latest mesa-7.6-0.16 from koji, 
but the problem remains: no KDE login with desktop 
effects enabled.

Why does un-asked-for language support get installed

[Jim Haynes]

During installation I check "customize now" and when I come to the
Languages section I don't select any of those languages.  Yet a whole
bunch of Asian fonts and input methods get installed anyway.  Is
this a mistake or a policy?

jhhaynes at earthlink dot net

Why does un-asked-for language support get installed

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Jim Haynes  wrote:
> During installation I check "customize now" and when I come to the
> Languages section I don't select any of those languages.  Yet a whole
> bunch of Asian fonts and input methods get installed anyway.  Is
> this a mistake or a policy?

Various packages require multiple fonts to work. Get the name of the
package you are worried about and try

rpm -q --whatrequires <package_name>

That will tell you what most likely pulled it in.
> jhhaynes at earthlink dot net
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Why does un-asked-for language support get installed

[Jim Haynes]

I just removed a whole bunch of them with rpm -e and it didn't say they
were needed by anything.

jhhaynes at earthlink dot net

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 19:14 -0700, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> KDE compositing (desktop effects) was working spledidly 
> until today's updates of mesa/glx. After updating, it was 
> no longer possible to log into KDE with desktop effects 
> enabled (gnome login remains possible, but compix is 
> untested).
>
> As a result, I culled the latest mesa-7.6-0.16 from koji, 
> but the problem remains: no KDE login with desktop 
> effects enabled.

We need to know what your hardware is.

[Petrus de Calguarium]

Adam Williamson wrote:
> We need to know what your hardware is.

My desktop:

http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_57f4a58e-63e6-40
20-8a25-614ca94e126f

Haven't updated the laptop, but it also has Intel 
graphics. Likely the same problem, as the laptop is 
generally even touchier than the desktop, it having an 
older Intel board, namely Intel Mobile 
915GM/GMS/910GML Express.

[Petrus de Calguarium]

Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Haven't updated the laptop

I just updated the laptop. Same problem. Then used the 
koji versions (7.6-0.16) and still the same problem. I 
was forced to disable compositing to log in.

My laptop hardware:

http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_955cab0f-92f3-47
10-a044-333eb31c5797

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 23:53 -0700, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> > Haven't updated the laptop
>
> I just updated the laptop. Same problem. Then used the 
> koji versions (7.6-0.16) and still the same problem. I 
> was forced to disable compositing to log in.
>
> My laptop hardware:
>
> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_955cab0f-92f3-47
> 10-a044-333eb31c5797

Thanks...please file a bug, then, with your hardware information
included.

[Adam Williamson]

On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 08:54 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 23:53 -0700, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> > Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> > > Haven't updated the laptop
> >
> > I just updated the laptop. Same problem. Then used the 
> > koji versions (7.6-0.16) and still the same problem. I 
> > was forced to disable compositing to log in.
> >
> > My laptop hardware:
> >
> > http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_955cab0f-92f3-47
> > 10-a044-333eb31c5797
>
> Thanks...please file a bug, then, with your hardware information
> included.

...and mention it on
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F12/FEDORA-2009-11805 , and give
it negative karma. Remember, this is the list for Rawhide testing.
Unless you state you're using F12 I'm going to assume you're using
Rawhide. I only caught this when I realized there hasn't been any update
to mesa in Rawhide yet.

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:56:34 -0800,
  Adam Williamson  wrote:
> ...and mention it on
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F12/FEDORA-2009-11805 , and give
> it negative karma. Remember, this is the list for Rawhide testing.
> Unless you state you're using F12 I'm going to assume you're using
> Rawhide. I only caught this when I realized there hasn't been any update
> to mesa in Rawhide yet.

You have to pull them in manually since dist-f13 doesn't inherit from
dist-f12-updates-candidate nor dist-f12-updates-testing and hence won't get it
from f12 builds unless they make it into updates (or were in the release).

The radeon development still seems to be happening in f12, so if you are in
rawhide and you want the latest and hopefully greatest radeon support,
you need to keep an eye on stuff built by airlied.

[Petrus de Calguarium]

Adam Williamson wrote:
> Remember, this is the list for Rawhide testing.

Oops, I forgot. I usually use rawhide, but it flipped 
earlier in the week. I forgot. I'm now just plain f12, 
but with *updates-testing* enabled.

[Adam Williamson]

On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 13:56 -0700, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Remember, this is the list for Rawhide testing.
>
> Oops, I forgot. I usually use rawhide, but it flipped 
> earlier in the week. I forgot. I'm now just plain f12, 
> but with *updates-testing* enabled.

Right, so as I said, file some feedback on Bodhi. thanks!