why does perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker depend on systemtap-sdt-devel?

[Robert P. J. Day]

  possibly admitting my ignorance, but why does installing
perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker drag in systemtap-sdt-devel? i see no logical
connection, and i don't even have any systemtap packages installed.

  i ask since i'm working with a software package that fails to
configure properly if the header file "sys/sdt.h" is installed on the
development system, but it needs the MakeMaker package, so i'm in a
bit of a dilemma.

rday

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[Adam Jackson]

On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 12:32 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>    possibly admitting my ignorance, but why does installing
>  perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker drag in systemtap-sdt-devel? i see no logical
>  connection, and i don't even have any systemtap packages installed.
>  
>    i ask since i'm working with a software package that fails to
>  configure properly if the header file "sys/sdt.h" is installed on the
>  development system, but it needs the MakeMaker package, so i'm in a
>  bit of a dilemma. 
When in doubt:

$ echo n | sudo yum install --releasever=21 --installroot=/tmp/empty foo

And then examine the output.  In this case, perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker →
perl-ExtUtils-Install → perl-devel → systemtap-sdt-devel.  Which appears
to have been so since December 2010:

http://bugzilla.redhat.com/661553

- ajax

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Adam Jackson wrote:

>  On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 12:32 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>  >   possibly admitting my ignorance, but why does installing
>  > perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker drag in systemtap-sdt-devel? i see no logical
>  > connection, and i don't even have any systemtap packages installed.
>  >
>  >   i ask since i'm working with a software package that fails to
>  > configure properly if the header file "sys/sdt.h" is installed on the
>  > development system, but it needs the MakeMaker package, so i'm in a
>  > bit of a dilemma.
>
>  When in doubt:
>
>  $ echo n | sudo yum install --releasever=21 --installroot=/tmp/empty foo
>
>  And then examine the output.  In this case, perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker →
>  perl-ExtUtils-Install → perl-devel → systemtap-sdt-devel.  Which appears
>  to have been so since December 2010:
>
>  http://bugzilla.redhat.com/661553 
  gotcha ... only skimmed that bugzilla thread but, until i read
further, i still think that dependency is just plain weird. grrr ...

rday

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[Michal Jaegermann]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 02:56:58PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>  On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Adam Jackson wrote:
>  > In this case, perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker →
>  > perl-ExtUtils-Install → perl-devel → systemtap-sdt-devel.  Which appears
>  > to have been so since December 2010:
>  >
>  > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/661553
>  
>    gotcha ... only skimmed that bugzilla thread but, until i read
>  further, i still think that dependency is just plain weird. grrr ... 
Not really "since December 2010"; at least if you can believe in
comments to bug 661553.  At that time the bug was acknowledged and
apparently fixed.  The trouble is that it resurfaced.

I think that a new bug report is needed with an explicit reference
to a closed 661553.

   Michal

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 09/10/2014 08:24 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>  On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 12:32 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >    possibly admitting my ignorance, but why does installing
> > perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker drag in systemtap-sdt-devel? i see no logical
> > connection, and i don't even have any systemtap packages installed.
> >
> >    i ask since i'm working with a software package that fails to
> > configure properly if the header file "sys/sdt.h" is installed on the
> > development system, but it needs the MakeMaker package, so i'm in a
> > bit of a dilemma. 
Coincidence of events. I hit the same issue yesterday when
trying rt-4 
on f21 for the first time ;)

>  When in doubt:
>
>  $ echo n | sudo yum install --releasever=21 --installroot=/tmp/empty foo
>
>  And then examine the output.  In this case, perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker →
>  perl-ExtUtils-Install → perl-devel → systemtap-sdt-devel.  Which appears
>  to have been so since December 2010: 
Yes, it's perl-devel which pulls in systemtap-sdt-devel

But, I think there are a couple of bogus deps on perl-devel in some of 
the perl package's sub-packages, which are causing the dependency bloat e.g:

perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder
perl-ExtUtils-Embed
perl-ExtUtils-Install
perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker
perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS
perl-Module-Build

I don't think any of these should R: "perl-devel"
(f21-patch enclosed below).

Ralf