F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better

[Joerg Lechner]

Hi,
- last dnf update took far too much time
- shutdown process not tolerable, takes too much time.
- usb connection erroneous. i.e. after copying to flash medium or external disk connected
by an usb adapter in most trials, when I try to eject the usb connected medium, there -
after a copying process is finished a long time ago - comes the message "usb medium
in use", this for ever. Also after shutdown of F25 in some cases I had to repair the
usb connected medium with a new partition table. Things like that are not nice.

Conclusion: I use F24 and if F26 will be better switch to F26 and omit F25.
Kind regards

[Matthew Miller]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:19:18AM -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:
>  - last dnf update took far too much time
>  - shutdown process not tolerable, takes too much time.
>  - usb connection erroneous. i.e. after copying to flash medium or
>  external disk connected by an usb adapter in most trials, when I try
>  to eject the usb connected medium, there - after a copying process is
>  finished a long time ago - comes the message "usb medium in use",
>  this for ever. Also after shutdown of F25 in some cases I had to
>  repair the usb connected medium with a new partition table. Things
>  like that are not nice. 
These things seem unlikely to actually be very version dependent and
probably are more to do with the specific configuration. The first two
complaints are not actionable — the dnf problem might just be your
network, and without any detail, we don't know what is holding up your
system's shutdown.

The third is likely a kernel issue, and may be something you can tune.
Are you *sure* you don't have anything from the externel disk in use?
The /sbin/lsof command can tell you.

Have you tried typing "sync" at the command line before attempting to
eject the disk?

-- 
Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
Fedora Project Leader

[Joerg Lechner]

Hi,
thank You Matthiew, I will investigate and give more details.
Kind regards

 

 

 

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Betreff: Re: F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:19:18AM -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:> - last dnf update took
far too much time> - shutdown process not tolerable, takes too much time.> - usb
connection erroneous. i.e. after copying to flash medium or> external disk connected by
an usb adapter in most trials, when I try> to eject the usb connected medium, there -
after a copying process is> finished a long time ago - comes the message "usb
medium in use",> this for ever. Also after shutdown of F25 in some cases I had
to> repair the usb connected medium with a new partition table. Things> like that
are not nice.These things seem unlikely to actually be very version dependent andprobably
are more to do with the specific configuration. The first twocomplaints are not actionable
— the dnf problem might just be yournetwork, and without any detail, we don't know
what is holding up yoursystem's shutdown.The third is likely a kernel issue, and may
be something you can tune.Are you *sure* you don't have anything from the externel
disk in use?The /sbin/lsof command can tell you.Have you tried typing "sync" at
the command line before attempting toeject the disk?-- Matthew
Miller&lt;mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;Fedora Project
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[Allan Mwenda]

Can confirm on the very last package on my update internet speeds tanked (dnf upgrade
being the command) 
The others I haven't  experienced. 

On March 1, 2017 4:45:09 PM GMT+03:00, Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:19:18AM -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:
> > - last dnf update took far too much time
> > - shutdown process not tolerable, takes too much time.
> > - usb connection erroneous. i.e. after copying to flash medium or
> > external disk connected by an usb adapter in most trials, when I try
> > to eject the usb connected medium, there - after a copying process is
> > finished a long time ago - comes the message "usb medium in use",
> > this for ever. Also after shutdown of F25 in some cases I had to
> > repair the usb connected medium with a new partition table. Things
> > like that are not nice.
>
> These things seem unlikely to actually be very version dependent and
> probably are more to do with the specific configuration. The first two
> complaints are not actionable — the dnf problem might just be your
> network, and without any detail, we don't know what is holding up your
> system's shutdown.
>
> The third is likely a kernel issue, and may be something you can tune.
> Are you *sure* you don't have anything from the externel disk in use?
> The /sbin/lsof command can tell you.
>
> Have you tried typing "sync" at the command line before attempting to
> eject the disk?
>
> -- 
> Matthew Miller
> <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
> Fedora Project Leader
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[Joerg Lechner]

Hi,
investigation of the first action point:  "dnf update" takes too much time in
F25.
I made timestamps by my watch not by the system.

start of dnf update  09:48

[joerg@linux ~]$ su
Passwort: 
[root@linux joerg]# dnf update
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  texlive-texlive.infra-bin.x86_64 6:svn40312-32.20160520.fc25.1                
  tracker.x86_64 1.10.5-1.fc25  

update finished at  10:37

Question:   Are these update times ok, tolerable, or is this worthwhile for filing a bug?

My system is the same for F24 and F25.
Laptop, 1.7GHz, turbo boost up to 2.7 GHz
F25/F24 on an USB 3.0 flash medium, connected via USB 3.0 to the Laptop
Network: Cable TV internet, download 50GB/sec

The other problems (USB connected disks, usb flash media), there I am possibly one of very
few users, I will make these investigations next time and report.
Kind regards


 

 

 

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Betreff: Re: F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:19:18AM -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:> - last dnf update took
far too much time> - shutdown process not tolerable, takes too much time.> - usb
connection erroneous. i.e. after copying to flash medium or> external disk connected by
an usb adapter in most trials, when I try> to eject the usb connected medium, there -
after a copying process is> finished a long time ago - comes the message "usb
medium in use",> this for ever. Also after shutdown of F25 in some cases I had
to> repair the usb connected medium with a new partition table. Things> like that
are not nice.These things seem unlikely to actually be very version dependent andprobably
are more to do with the specific configuration. The first twocomplaints are not actionable
— the dnf problem might just be yournetwork, and without any detail, we don't know
what is holding up yoursystem's shutdown.The third is likely a kernel issue, and may
be something you can tune.Are you *sure* you don't have anything from the externel
disk in use?The /sbin/lsof command can tell you.Have you tried typing "sync" at
the command line before attempting toeject the disk?-- Matthew
Miller&lt;mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;Fedora Project
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[Ralf Corsepius]

On 03/02/2017 12:27 PM, Joerg Lechner wrote:
>  Hi,
>  investigation of the first action point:  "dnf update" takes too much
>  time in F25.
>  I made timestamps by my watch not by the system.
>
>  start of dnf update  09:48 
...
>  update finished at  10:37
>
>  Question:   Are these update times ok, tolerable, 
Hard to tell. Overall, these times are miserable and are unlike what I 
am used to. But from what you are telling, one can only guess on the 
origin, esp. one would have to identify whether it's the download 
transfer rate or a bottleneck on your machine.


My first guess on the origin, would be drpms, which I found are a 
significant source of time-waste, esp. on machines with slow  (e.g. 
flash?) or little memory. I recommend to try switching them off (Add 
deltarpm=false to /etc/dnf/dnf.conf).


My second guess would be you to have hit a slow mirror. During project 
phases with heavy mirror activities, like the current one, I have been 
experiencing a tendency in yum and dnf to favour broken and outdated 
mirrors, seemingly because the fast mirrors are constantly out of sync.

In this case, aborting (Ctrl C) and erasing the cache ("dnf clean all" 
or rm -rf /var/cache/dnf) and retrying again, hoping dnf will choose a 
better mirror, should help.


A third possibility, I have seen during updates is something else 
loading a machine to an extend, it starts behaving utterly slow. In the 
past, one such cases I was facing journald trying to fill its files at 
rates the machine could not write them to disk anymore, in recent times, 
I am occasionally experiencing situations which look like network-io 
bringing machines close to stand-still.

Ralf

[Adam Pribyl]

If this is a wall clock, then the update took 49minutes right? This is 
really weired. Download speed indicated the download took 2.4 minutes.

This looks to me like some extremely slow access to hard drive to resolve 
all dependencies, rebuild delta RPM and then install them. Do you use SSD 
or HDD? What does the hdparm -tT /dev/sda (if sda is your primary disk) 
says? smartctl output may also be interesting.

On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Joerg Lechner wrote:

>  Hi,
>  investigation of the first action point:  "dnf update" takes too much time in
> F25.
>  I made timestamps by my watch not by the system.
>
>  start of dnf update  09:48
>
>  [joerg@linux ~]$ su
>  Passwort:
>  [root@linux joerg]# dnf update
>  Letzte Prüfung auf abgelaufene Metadaten: vor 0:06:22 am Thu Mar  2 09:41:58 2017.
>  Abhängigkeiten sind aufgelöst.
>  ================================================================================
>  Package                    Arch   Version                       Paketquelle
>                                                                           Größe
>  ================================================================================
>  Installieren:
>  kernel                     x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates   96 k
>  kernel-core                x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates   20 M
>  kernel-modules             x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates   22 M
>  kernel-modules-extra       x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates  2.2 M
>  libglvnd                   x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates   89 k
>  libglvnd-egl               x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates   43 k
>  libglvnd-gles              x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates   31 k
>  libglvnd-glx               x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25  updates  124 k
>  Aktualisieren:
>  NetworkManager-openvpn     x86_64 1:1.2.8-2.fc25                updates  237 k
>  NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome
>                             x86_64 1:1.2.8-2.fc25                updates   91 k
>  audit                      x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates  243 k
>  audit-libs                 x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates  106 k
>  audit-libs-python          x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates   77 k
>  audit-libs-python3         x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates   76 k
>  breeze-icon-theme          noarch 5.31.0-1.fc25                 updates  8.3 M
>  copy-jdk-configs           noarch 2.2-2.fc25                    updates   19 k
>  fedora-repos               noarch 25-2                          updates   88 k
>  gnome-autoar               x86_64 0.2.0-1.fc25                  updates   49 k
>  gnome-terminal             x86_64 3.22.1-5.fc25                 updates  1.2 M
>  gspell                     x86_64 1.2.3-1.fc25                  updates   81 k
>  gstreamer1                 x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.2 M
>  gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free
>                             x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.8 M
>  gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk
>                             x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates   32 k
>  gstreamer1-plugins-base    x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.5 M
>  gstreamer1-plugins-good    x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  2.0 M
>  ibus-typing-booster        noarch 1.5.22-1.fc25                 updates  3.8 M
>  kde-style-breeze           x86_64 5.8.6-1.fc25                  updates  179 k
>  kernel-headers             x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates  1.1 M
>  kf5-filesystem             x86_64 5.31.0-1.fc25                 updates   15 k
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>  libblockdev-btrfs          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   41 k
>  libblockdev-crypto         x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   43 k
>  libblockdev-dm             x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   41 k
>  libblockdev-fs             x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   42 k
>  libblockdev-kbd            x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   45 k
>  libblockdev-loop           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   39 k
>  libblockdev-lvm            x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   48 k
>  libblockdev-mdraid         x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   43 k
>  libblockdev-mpath          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   40 k
>  libblockdev-part           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   45 k
>  libblockdev-plugins-all    x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   34 k
>  libblockdev-swap           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   39 k
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>  libnetfilter_conntrack     x86_64 1.0.6-2.fc25                  updates   58 k
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>  mesa-dri-drivers           x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   11 M
>  mesa-filesystem            x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   24 k
>  mesa-libEGL                x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates  103 k
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>  mesa-libgbm                x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   42 k
>  mesa-libglapi              x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   50 k
>  mesa-libwayland-egl        x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   25 k
>  mesa-libxatracker          x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.4 M
>  open-vm-tools              x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25                 updates  666 k
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>  openssh                    x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                  updates  476 k
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>  openssh-server             x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                  updates  464 k
>  osinfo-db                  noarch 20170225-1.fc25               updates  134 k
>  ostree                     x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                 updates  179 k
>  ostree-libs                x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                 updates  255 k
>  oxygen-icon-theme          noarch 1:5.31.0-1.fc25               updates   29 M
>  pciutils                   x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                  updates  100 k
>  pciutils-libs              x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                  updates   50 k
>  pcre                       x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                   updates  200 k
>  pcre-utf16                 x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                   updates  190 k
>  pcre2                      x86_64 10.23-2.fc25                  updates  210 k
>  perl-threads               x86_64 1:2.15-1.fc25                 updates   58 k
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>  publicsuffix-list-dafsa    noarch 20170206-1.fc25               updates   44 k
>  python3-blockdev           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   44 k
>  python3-gstreamer1         x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  108 k
>  python3-rpm                x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  105 k
>  qca                        x86_64 2.1.3-3.fc25                  updates  451 k
>  rpm                        x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  517 k
>  rpm-build-libs             x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  121 k
>  rpm-libs                   x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  304 k
>  rpm-plugin-selinux         x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates   57 k
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>  selinux-policy             noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25            updates  487 k
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>  systemd                    x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  2.8 M
>  systemd-container          x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  412 k
>  systemd-libs               x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  421 k
>  systemd-pam                x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  178 k
>  systemd-udev               x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates  1.3 M
>  texlive-base               noarch 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25       updates  1.4 M
>  texlive-dvipng             noarch 6:svn40768-32.fc25.1          updates   57 k
>  texlive-dvipng-bin         x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates   80 k
>  texlive-kpathsea           noarch 6:svn41139-32.fc25.1          updates  159 k
>  texlive-kpathsea-bin       x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates   56 k
>  texlive-lib                x86_64 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25       updates  452 k
>  texlive-metafont           noarch 6:svn40793-32.fc25.1          updates  134 k
>  texlive-metafont-bin       x86_64 6:svn40987-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates  220 k
>  texlive-tetex              noarch 6:svn41059-32.fc25.1          updates  118 k
>  texlive-tetex-bin          noarch 6:svn36770.0-32.20160520.fc25.1
>                                                                  updates   34 k
>  texlive-texlive.infra      noarch 6:svn41280-32.fc25.1          updates  165 k
>  texlive-texlive.infra-bin  x86_64 6:svn40312-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates   32 k
>  tracker                    x86_64 1.10.5-1.fc25                 updates  1.4 M
>  vim-minimal                x86_64 2:8.0.386-1.fc25              updates  517 k
>  xdg-desktop-portal-gtk     x86_64 0.5-3.fc25                    updates  104 k
>  xen-libs                   x86_64 4.7.1-9.fc25                  updates  635 k
>  xen-licenses               x86_64 4.7.1-9.fc25                  updates  108 k
>  xorg-x11-drv-wacom         x86_64 0.34.0-4.fc25                 updates  311 k
>  Entfernen:
>  kernel                     x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates   0
>  kernel-core                x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates  53 M
>  kernel-modules             x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates  22 M
>  kernel-modules-extra       x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates 2.0 M
>
>  Transaktionsübersicht
>  ================================================================================
>  Installieren    8 Pakete
>  Aktualisieren  98 Pakete
>  Entfernen       4 Pakete
>
>  Gesamte Downloadgröße: 136 M
>  Ist dies in Ordnung? [j/N]: j
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>  [DRPM] systemd-231-12.fc25_231-14.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] texlive-base-2016-30.20160520.fc25_2016-32.20160520.fc25.noarch.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] texlive-metafont-svn40793-30.fc25_svn40793-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] texlive-texlive.infra-svn41280-30.fc25_svn41280-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] texlive-lib-2016-30.20160520.fc25_2016-32.20160520.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] xen-libs-4.7.1-8.fc25_4.7.1-9.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] texlive-tetex-svn41059-30.fc25_svn41059-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] tracker-1.10.4-2.fc25_1.10.5-1.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] oxygen-icon-theme-5.29.0-1.fc25_5.31.0-1.fc25.noarch.drpm: Fertig
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>  Delta RPMs reduziert 136.1 MB Aktualisierungen auf 69.9 MB (48.1% gespart)
>  Transaktionsüberprüfung wird ausgeführt
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>  Transaktion wird getestet
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>   Aufräumen        : python3-rpm-4.13.0-6.fc25.x86_64                   109/208
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>   Aufräumen        : ostree-2017.2-2.fc25.x86_64                        115/208
>   Aufräumen        : openssh-server-7.4p1-2.fc25.x86_64                 116/208
>   Aufräumen        : libva-1.7.3-1.fc25.x86_64                          117/208
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>   ostree.x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25
>   ostree-libs.x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25
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>   pciutils.x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25
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>   pcre-utf16.x86_64 8.40-5.fc25
>   pcre2.x86_64 10.23-2.fc25
>   perl-threads.x86_64 1:2.15-1.fc25
>   perl-threads-shared.x86_64 1.55-1.fc25
>   publicsuffix-list-dafsa.noarch 20170206-1.fc25
>   python3-blockdev.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25
>   python3-gstreamer1.x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25
>   python3-rpm.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   qca.x86_64 2.1.3-3.fc25
>   rpm.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   rpm-build-libs.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   rpm-libs.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   rpm-plugin-selinux.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   selinux-policy.noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25
>   selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25
>   sos.noarch 3.3-1.fc25
>   systemd.x86_64 231-14.fc25
>   systemd-container.x86_64 231-14.fc25
>   systemd-libs.x86_64 231-14.fc25
>   systemd-pam.x86_64 231-14.fc25
>   systemd-udev.x86_64 231-14.fc25
>   texlive-base.noarch 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25
>   texlive-dvipng.noarch 6:svn40768-32.fc25.1
>   texlive-dvipng-bin.x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1
>   texlive-kpathsea.noarch 6:svn41139-32.fc25.1
>   texlive-kpathsea-bin.x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1
>   texlive-lib.x86_64 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25
>   texlive-metafont.noarch 6:svn40793-32.fc25.1
>   texlive-metafont-bin.x86_64 6:svn40987-32.20160520.fc25.1
>   texlive-tetex.noarch 6:svn41059-32.fc25.1
>   texlive-tetex-bin.noarch 6:svn36770.0-32.20160520.fc25.1
>   texlive-texlive.infra.noarch 6:svn41280-32.fc25.1
>   texlive-texlive.infra-bin.x86_64 6:svn40312-32.20160520.fc25.1
>   tracker.x86_64 1.10.5-1.fc25
>
>  update finished at  10:37
>
>  Question:   Are these update times ok, tolerable, or is this worthwhile for filing a
> bug?
>
>  My system is the same for F24 and F25.
>  Laptop, 1.7GHz, turbo boost up to 2.7 GHz
>  F25/F24 on an USB 3.0 flash medium, connected via USB 3.0 to the Laptop
>  Network: Cable TV internet, download 50GB/sec
>
>  The other problems (USB connected disks, usb flash media), there I am possibly one of
> very few users, I will make these investigations next time and report.
>  Kind regards
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
>  Von: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org
> >  
>  An: For
> testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases <test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >  
>  Verschickt: Mi, 1. Mrz 2017 14:45
>  Betreff: Re: F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better
>
>  On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:19:18AM -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:> - last dnf update took
> far too much time> - shutdown process not tolerable, takes too much time.> - usb
> connection erroneous. i.e. after copying to flash medium or> external disk connected by
> an usb adapter in most trials, when I try> to eject the usb connected medium, there -
> after a copying process is> finished a long time ago - comes the message "usb
> medium in use",> this for ever. Also after shutdown of F25 in some cases I had
> to> repair the usb connected medium with a new partition table. Things> like that
> are not nice.These things seem unlikely to actually be very version dependent andprobably
> are more to do with the specific configuration. The first twocomplaints are not actionable
> — the dnf problem might just be yournetwork, and without any detail, we don't know
> what is holding up yoursystem's shutdown.The third is likely a kernel issue, and may
> be something you can tune.Are you *sure* you don't have anything 
  from the
externel disk in use?The /sbin/lsof command can tell you.Have you tried typing
"sync" at the command line before attempting toeject the disk?-- Matthew
Miller&lt;mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;Fedora Project
Leader_______________________________________________test mailing list --
test(a)lists.fedoraproject.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to
test-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  
Odchozi zprava neobsahuje viry, protoze nebyla odeslana z Windows.
Otestovano zdarma a legalne na OS Linux.
(Proc pouzivat Linux - http://proc.linux.cz/).

[Joerg Lechner]

Hi Adam,
my configuration is F25 on an USB 3.0 Flash medium, 64GB, connected to the Laptop via USB
3.0. I use a 32GB USB 3.0 Flash medium for the F24 installation, which quick, as it would
have been installed on the internal harddisk, my Laptop has 8GB Ram. So it's possible
that I have made a "bad" F25 installation, and if not then the USB 3.0
"connection" is in F25 worse then in F24. I will keep this "bad"
installation for eventually needed later investigation, and make a new install of F25 on
an other 32GB USB 3.0 medium, then I can say If that, what I currently have is only a bad
installation, or F25 is slow in an installation on an USB 3.0 flash medium. I need a
little bit of time, to make a new installation.
Kind regards

 

 

 

-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- 
Von: Adam Pribyl <pribyl(a)lowlevel.cz
>  
An: For
testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases <test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  
Verschickt: Do, 2. Mrz 2017 13:40
Betreff: Re: F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better

If this is a wall clock, then the update took 49minutes right? This is 
really weired. Download speed indicated the download took 2.4 minutes.

This looks to me like some extremely slow access to hard drive to resolve 
all dependencies, rebuild delta RPM and then install them. Do you use SSD 
or HDD? What does the hdparm -tT /dev/sda (if sda is your primary disk) 
says? smartctl output may also be interesting.

On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Joerg Lechner wrote:

>  Hi,
>  investigation of the first action point:  "dnf update" takes too much time in
> F25.
>  I made timestamps by my watch not by the system.
>
>  start of dnf update  09:48
>
>  [joerg@linux ~]$ su
>  Passwort:
>  [root@linux joerg]# dnf update
>  Letzte Prüfung auf abgelaufene Metadaten: vor 0:06:22 am Thu Mar  2 09:41:58 2017.
>  Abhängigkeiten sind aufgelöst.
>  ================================================================================
>  Package                    Arch   Version                       Paketquelle
>    Größe
>  ================================================================================
>  Installieren:
>  kernel                     x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates   96 k
>  kernel-core                x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25              updates   20 M
>  kernel-modules             x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25              updates   22 M
>  kernel-modules-extra       x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25              updates  2.2 M
>  libglvnd                   x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25 updates   89 k
>  libglvnd-egl               x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25 updates   43 k
>  libglvnd-gles              x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25 updates   31 k
>  libglvnd-glx               x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25 updates  124 k
>  Aktualisieren:
>  NetworkManager-openvpn     x86_64 1:1.2.8-2.fc25                updates  237 k
>  NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome
>   x86_64 1:1.2.8-2.fc25                updates   91 k
>  audit                     x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates  243 k
>  audit-libs                x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates  106 k
>  audit-libs-python         x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates   77 k
>  audit-libs-python3        x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25                  updates   76 k
>  breeze-icon-theme         noarch 5.31.0-1.fc25                 updates  8.3 M
>  copy-jdk-configs          noarch 2.2-2.fc25                    updates   19 k
>  fedora-repos              noarch 25-2                          updates   88 k
>  gnome-autoar              x86_64 0.2.0-1.fc25                  updates   49 k
>  gnome-terminal            x86_64 3.22.1-5.fc25                 updates  1.2 M
>  gspell                    x86_64 1.2.3-1.fc25                  updates   81 k
>  gstreamer1                x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.2 M
>  gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free
>                             x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25   updates  1.8 M
>  gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk
>                             x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates   32 k
>  gstreamer1-plugins-base   x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.5 M
>  gstreamer1-plugins-good   x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  2.0 M
>  ibus-typing-booster       noarch 1.5.22-1.fc25                 updates  3.8 M
>  kde-style-breeze          x86_64 5.8.6-1.fc25                  updates  179 k
>  kernel-headers            x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25               updates  1.1 M
>  kf5-filesystem            x86_64 5.31.0-1.fc25                 updates   15 k
>  libblockdev               x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   85 k
>  libblockdev-btrfs         x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   41 k
>  libblockdev-crypto        x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   43 k
>  libblockdev-dm            x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   41 k
>  libblockdev-fs            x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   42 k
>  libblockdev-kbd           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   45 k
>  libblockdev-loop          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   39 k
>  libblockdev-lvm           x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   48 k
>  libblockdev-mdraid        x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   43 k
>  libblockdev-mpath         x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   40 k
>  libblockdev-part          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   45 k
>  libblockdev-plugins-all   x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   34 k
>  libblockdev-swap          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   39 k
>  libblockdev-utils         x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   41 k
>  libnetfilter_conntrack    x86_64 1.0.6-2.fc25                  updates   58 k
>  libva                     x86_64 1.7.3-3.fc25                  updates   89 k
>  mesa-dri-drivers          x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   11 M
>  mesa-filesystem           x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   24 k
>  mesa-libEGL               x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates  103 k
>  mesa-libGL                x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates  165 k
>  mesa-libGLES              x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   22 k
>  mesa-libgbm               x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   42 k
>  mesa-libglapi             x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   50 k
>  mesa-libwayland-egl       x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates   25 k
>  mesa-libxatracker         x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25                 updates  1.4 M
>  open-vm-tools             x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25                 updates  666 k
>  open-vm-tools-desktop     x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25                 updates  159 k
>  openssh                   x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                  updates  476 k
>  openssh-clients           x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                  updates  657 k
>  openssh-server            x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25                  updates  464 k
>  osinfo-db                 noarch 20170225-1.fc25               updates  134 k
>  ostree                    x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                 updates  179 k
>  ostree-libs               x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25                 updates  255 k
>  oxygen-icon-theme         noarch 1:5.31.0-1.fc25               updates   29 M
>  pciutils                  x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                  updates  100 k
>  pciutils-libs             x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25                  updates   50 k
>  pcre                      x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                   updates  200 k
>  pcre-utf16                x86_64 8.40-5.fc25                   updates  190 k
>  pcre2                     x86_64 10.23-2.fc25                  updates  210 k
>  perl-threads              x86_64 1:2.15-1.fc25                 updates   58 k
>  perl-threads-shared       x86_64 1.55-1.fc25                   updates   44 k
>  publicsuffix-list-dafsa   noarch 20170206-1.fc25               updates   44 k
>  python3-blockdev          x86_64 1.9-9.fc25                    updates   44 k
>  python3-gstreamer1        x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25                 updates  108 k
>  python3-rpm               x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  105 k
>  qca                       x86_64 2.1.3-3.fc25                  updates  451 k
>  rpm                       x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  517 k
>  rpm-build-libs            x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  121 k
>  rpm-libs                  x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates  304 k
>  rpm-plugin-selinux        x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates   57 k
>  rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25               updates   57 k
>  selinux-policy             noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25            updates  487 k
>  selinux-policy-targeted    noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25            updates 8.7 M
>  sos                        noarch 3.3-1.fc25                    updates 397 k
>  systemd                    x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates 2.8 M
>  systemd-container          x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates 412 k
>  systemd-libs               x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates 421 k
>  systemd-pam                x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates 178 k
>  systemd-udev               x86_64 231-14.fc25                   updates 1.3 M
>  texlive-base               noarch 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25       updates 1.4 M
>  texlive-dvipng             noarch 6:svn40768-32.fc25.1          updates 57 k
>  texlive-dvipng-bin         x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates  80 k
>  texlive-kpathsea           noarch 6:svn41139-32.fc25.1          updates  159 k
>  texlive-kpathsea-bin       x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates 56 k
>  texlive-lib                x86_64 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25       updates  452 k
>  texlive-metafont           noarch 6:svn40793-32.fc25.1          updates 134 k
>  texlive-metafont-bin       x86_64 6:svn40987-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates 220 k
>  texlive-tetex              noarch 6:svn41059-32.fc25.1          updates 118 k
>  texlive-tetex-bin          noarch 6:svn36770.0-32.20160520.fc25.1
>     updates   34 k
>  texlive-texlive.infra      noarch 6:svn41280-32.fc25.1         updates  165 k
>  texlive-texlive.infra-bin  x86_64 6:svn40312-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates   32 k
>  tracker                    x86_64 1.10.5-1.fc25                 updates  1.4 M
>  vim-minimal               x86_64 2:8.0.386-1.fc25              updates  517 k
>  xdg-desktop-portal-gtk    x86_64 0.5-3.fc25                    updates  104 k
>  xen-libs                  x86_64 4.7.1-9.fc25                  updates  635 k
>  xen-licenses              x86_64 4.7.1-9.fc25                  updates  108 k
>  xorg-x11-drv-wacom        x86_64 0.34.0-4.fc25                 updates  311 k
>  Entfernen:
>  kernel      x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates   0
>  kernel-core                x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates  53 M
>  kernel-modules            x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates  22 M
>  kernel-modules-extra      x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25                @updates 2.0 M
>
>  Transaktionsübersicht
>  ================================================================================
>  Installieren    8 Pakete
>  Aktualisieren  98 Pakete
>  Entfernen       4 Pakete
>
>  Gesamte Downloadgröße: 136 M
>  Ist dies in Ordnung? [j/N]: j
>  Pakete werden heruntergeladen:
>  (1/106): NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome-1.2.8-1.f 387 kB/s |  40 kB     00:00
>  (2/106): NetworkManager-openvpn-1.2.8-1.fc25_1. 512 kB/s |  61 kB     00:00
>  (3/106): audit-libs-python3-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3- 505 kB/s |  18 kB     00:00
>  (4/106): audit-libs-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3-1.fc25.x 141 kB/s |  20 kB     00:00
>  (5/106): audit-libs-python-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3-1 174 kB/s |  17 kB     00:00
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>  [DRPM] systemd-udev-231-12.fc25_231-14.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] systemd-231-12.fc25_231-14.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] texlive-base-2016-30.20160520.fc25_2016-32.20160520.fc25.noarch.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] texlive-metafont-svn40793-30.fc25_svn40793-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] texlive-texlive.infra-svn41280-30.fc25_svn41280-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] texlive-lib-2016-30.20160520.fc25_2016-32.20160520.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] xen-libs-4.7.1-8.fc25_4.7.1-9.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] texlive-tetex-svn41059-30.fc25_svn41059-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] tracker-1.10.4-2.fc25_1.10.5-1.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig
>  [DRPM] oxygen-icon-theme-5.29.0-1.fc25_5.31.0-1.fc25.noarch.drpm: Fertig
>  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Gesamt                                          475 kB/s |  70 MB     02:30
>  Delta RPMs reduziert 136.1 MB Aktualisierungen auf 69.9 MB (48.1% gespart)
>  Transaktionsüberprüfung wird ausgeführt
>  Transaktionsprüfung war erfolgreich.
>  Transaktion wird getestet
>  Transaktionstest war erfolgreich.
>  Transaktion wird ausgeführt
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>   Aktualisieren    : texlive-base-6:2016-32.20160520.fc25.noarch          2/208
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>   Aktualisieren   : gstreamer1-1.10.4-1.fc25.x86_64                      4/208
>   Aktualisieren   : audit-libs-2.7.3-1.fc25.x86_64                       5/208
>   Aktualisieren   : systemd-pam-231-14.fc25.x86_64                       6/208
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>   Aktualisieren    : gnome-autoar-0.2.0-1.fc25.x86_64                  103/208
>   Aktualisieren    : fedora-repos-25-2.noarch                          104/208
>   Aktualisieren    : copy-jdk-configs-2.2-2.fc25.noarch                105/208
>   Aktualisieren    : breeze-icon-theme-5.31.0-1.fc25.noarch            106/208
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>  timestamp    10:21
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>   Aufräumen        : libblockdev-plugins-all-1.9-8.fc25.x86_64          107/208
>   Aufräumen        : gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.10.3-1.fc25.x86_64       108/208
>   Aufräumen       : python3-rpm-4.13.0-6.fc25.x86_64                   109/208
>   Aufräumen       : gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk-1.10.3-1.fc25.x8   110/208
>   Aufräumen       : texlive-dvipng-bin-6:svn40473-30.20160520.fc25.x   111/208
>   Aufräumen       : texlive-dvipng-6:svn40768-30.fc25.noarch           112/208
>   Aufräumen       : gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.10.3-1.fc25.x86_64   113/208
>   Aufräumen       : tracker-1.10.4-2.fc25.x86_64                       114/208
>   Aufräumen       : ostree-2017.2-2.fc25.x86_64                        115/208
>   Aufräumen       : openssh-server-7.4p1-2.fc25.x86_64                 116/208
>   Aufräumen       : libva-1.7.3-1.fc25.x86_64                          117/208
>   Löschen         : kernel-4.9.7-201.fc25.x86_64                       118/208
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>   Aufräumen        : libnetfilter_conntrack-1.0.4-6.fc24.x86_64         205/208
>   Aufräumen        : kde-style-breeze-5.8.5-1.fc25.x86_64               206/208
>   Aufräumen       : gspell-1.2.2-1.fc25.x86_64                         207/208
>   Aufräumen       : gnome-autoar-0.1.1-1.fc25.x86_64                   208/208
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>  Überprüfung läuft: kernel-core-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64          1/208
>   Überprüfung läuft: kernel-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64                       2/208
>   Überprüfung läuft: kernel-modules-extra-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64         3/208
>   Überprüfung läuft: kernel-modules-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64               4/208
>   Überprüfung läuft: libglvnd-egl-1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25.x86_64    5/208
>   Überprüfung läuft: libglvnd-1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25.x86_64        6/208
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>   libblockdev-mdraid.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25
>   libblockdev-mpath.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25
>   libblockdev-part.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25
>   libblockdev-plugins-all.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25
>   libblockdev-swap.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25
>   libblockdev-utils.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25
>   libnetfilter_conntrack.x86_64 1.0.6-2.fc25
>   libva.x86_64 1.7.3-3.fc25
>   mesa-dri-drivers.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25
>   mesa-filesystem.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25
>   mesa-libEGL.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25
>   mesa-libGL.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25
>   mesa-libGLES.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25
>   mesa-libgbm.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25
>   mesa-libglapi.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25
>   mesa-libwayland-egl.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25
>   mesa-libxatracker.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25
>   open-vm-tools.x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25
>   open-vm-tools-desktop.x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25
>   openssh.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25
>   openssh-clients.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25
>   openssh-server.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25
>   osinfo-db.noarch 20170225-1.fc25
>   ostree.x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25
>   ostree-libs.x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25
>   oxygen-icon-theme.noarch 1:5.31.0-1.fc25
>  pciutils.x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25
>   pciutils-libs.x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25
>   pcre.x86_64 8.40-5.fc25
>   pcre-utf16.x86_64 8.40-5.fc25
>   pcre2.x86_64 10.23-2.fc25
>   perl-threads.x86_64 1:2.15-1.fc25
>   perl-threads-shared.x86_64 1.55-1.fc25
>   publicsuffix-list-dafsa.noarch 20170206-1.fc25
>   python3-blockdev.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25
>   python3-gstreamer1.x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25
>   python3-rpm.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   qca.x86_64 2.1.3-3.fc25
>   rpm.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   rpm-build-libs.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   rpm-libs.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   rpm-plugin-selinux.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25
>   selinux-policy.noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25
>   selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25
>   sos.noarch 3.3-1.fc25
>   systemd.x86_64 231-14.fc25
>   systemd-container.x86_64 231-14.fc25
>   systemd-libs.x86_64 231-14.fc25
>   systemd-pam.x86_64 231-14.fc25
>   systemd-udev.x86_64 231-14.fc25
>   texlive-base.noarch 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25
>   texlive-dvipng.noarch 6:svn40768-32.fc25.1
>   texlive-dvipng-bin.x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1
>   texlive-kpathsea.noarch 6:svn41139-32.fc25.1
>   texlive-kpathsea-bin.x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1
>   texlive-lib.x86_64 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25
>   texlive-metafont.noarch 6:svn40793-32.fc25.1
>   texlive-metafont-bin.x86_64 6:svn40987-32.20160520.fc25.1
>   texlive-tetex.noarch 6:svn41059-32.fc25.1
>   texlive-tetex-bin.noarch 6:svn36770.0-32.20160520.fc25.1
>   texlive-texlive.infra.noarch 6:svn41280-32.fc25.1
>   texlive-texlive.infra-bin.x86_64 6:svn40312-32.20160520.fc25.1
>   tracker.x86_64 1.10.5-1.fc25
>
>  update finished at  10:37
>
>  Question:   Are these update times ok, tolerable, or is this worthwhile for filing a
> bug?
>
>  My system is the same for F24 and F25.
>  Laptop, 1.7GHz, turbo boost up to 2.7 GHz
>  F25/F24 on an USB 3.0 flash medium, connected via USB 3.0 to the Laptop
>  Network: Cable TV internet, download 50GB/sec
>
>  The other problems (USB connected disks, usb flash media), there I am possibly one of
> very few users, I will make these investigations next time and report.
>  Kind regards
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
>  Von: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org
> >  
>  An: For
> testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases <test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >  
>  Verschickt: Mi, 1. Mrz 2017 14:45
>  Betreff: Re: F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better
>
>  On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:19:18AM -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:> - last dnf update took
> far too much time> - shutdown process not tolerable, takes too much time.> - usb
> connection erroneous. i.e. after copying to flash medium or> external disk connected by
> an usb adapter in most trials, when I try> to eject the usb connected medium, there -
> after a copying process is> finished a long time ago - comes the message "usb
> medium in use",> this for ever. Also after shutdown of F25 in some cases I had
> to> repair the usb connected medium with a new partition table. Things> like that
> are not nice.These things seem unlikely to actually be very version dependent andprobably
> are more to do with the specific configuration. The first twocomplaints are not actionable
> — the dnf problem might just be yournetwork, and without any detail, we don't know
> what is holding up yoursystem's shutdown.The third is likely a kernel issue, and may
> be something you can tune.Are you *sure* you don't have anything 
  from the
externel disk in use?The /sbin/lsof command can tell you.Have you tried typing
"sync" at the command line before attempting toeject the disk?-- Matthew
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[Joerg Lechner]

 Hi Adam,
I made a new F25 installation on an USB 3.0 flash medium, so far not all Packets, which
are on the previous installation.
The First update (dnf update about 900 files) was very quick, so there is a problem in my
old F25 installation,
I will remove the old installation and forget this update problem.
Kind regards

 

 

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Von: Joerg Lechner <julechner(a)aol.com&gt;
An: test <test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
Verschickt: Do, 2. Mrz 2017 15:21
Betreff: Re: F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better


Hi Adam,
my configuration is F25 on an USB 3.0 Flash medium, 64GB, connected to the Laptop via USB
3.0. I use a 32GB USB 3.0 Flash medium for the F24 installation, which quick, as it would
have been installed on the internal harddisk, my Laptop has 8GB Ram. So it's possible
that I have made a "bad" F25 installation, and if not then the USB 3.0
"connection" is in F25 worse then in F24. I will keep this "bad"
installation for eventually needed later investigation, and make a new install of F25 on
an other 32GB USB 3.0 medium, then I can say If that, what I currently have is only a bad
installation, or F25 is slow in an installation on an USB 3.0 flash medium. I need a
little bit of time, to make a new installation.
Kind regards

 

 

 

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Von: Adam Pribyl <pribyl(a)lowlevel.cz&gt;
An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases
<test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;
Verschickt: Do, 2. Mrz 2017 13:40
Betreff: Re: F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better

If this is a wall clock, then the update took 49minutes right? This is 
really weired. Download speed indicated the download took 2.4 minutes.

This looks to me like some extremely slow access to hard drive to resolve 
all dependencies, rebuild delta RPM and then install them. Do you use SSD 
or HDD? What does the hdparm -tT /dev/sda (if sda is your primary disk) 
says? smartctl output may also be interesting.

On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Joerg Lechner wrote:

>  Hi,
>  investigation of the first action point:  "dnf update" takes too much time in
> F25.
>  I made timestamps by my watch not by the system.
>  
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