SOLVED: Re: firefox always starts offline

[cornel panceac]

2010/9/2 cornel panceac
> 2010/9/2 cornel panceac
>
> something strange happens on one of my test pcs running f14 (updated).
> > firefox always starts in offline mode. i uncheck work offline and
> > eevrythings fine until i close and start again firefox, when it's in offline
> > mode again. what could be the problem? NetworkManager is stopped because
> > it's not working.
> >
> > more: if i remove .mozilla , it starts online, first time. second time etc
>
> it goes offline again. if i go into about:config, there's no browser.offline
> key. after i uncheck first time the work offline  in file menu, then a
> browser.offline key is created which is *false* when work offline is
> *unchecked*, and browser is online. something looks messed in firefox, but i
> have no idea what :)
>
> please help!
>
> as i've learned here:

http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1&comments...

"from *about:config* set *toolkit.networkmanager.disable* to be true."

now it starts online.

it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour
even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to
enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and
firefox worked ok.

[Chuck Anderson]

On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:12:32AM +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour
> even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to
> enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and
> firefox worked ok.

Why did you have to enable network and disable NetworkManager to 
connect to the network?

[Dennis Jacobfeuerborn]

On 09/03/2010 03:42 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:12:32AM +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> > it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour
> > even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to
> > enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and
> > firefox worked ok.
>
> Why did you have to enable network and disable NetworkManager to
> connect to the network?

Has NM added support for bridges? That's the reason I have disabled it 
since I rely heavily on virtual machines both on my desktop and my servers.

Regards,
   Dennis

[Eric Blake]

On 09/03/2010 09:47 AM, Dennis J. wrote:
> On 09/03/2010 03:42 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:12:32AM +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> > > it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour
> > > even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to
> > > enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and
> > > firefox worked ok.
> >
> > Why did you have to enable network and disable NetworkManager to
> > connect to the network?
>
> Has NM added support for bridges? That's the reason I have disabled it
> since I rely heavily on virtual machines both on my desktop and my servers.

Slowly but surely, NM is finally starting to play nicely with bridges. 
For example:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2010-August/msg00656.html

[Eric Blake]

On 09/03/2010 09:50 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 09/03/2010 09:47 AM, Dennis J. wrote:
> > On 09/03/2010 03:42 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:12:32AM +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> > > > it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour
> > > > even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to
> > > > enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and
> > > > firefox worked ok.
> > >
> > > Why did you have to enable network and disable NetworkManager to
> > > connect to the network?
> >
> > Has NM added support for bridges? That's the reason I have disabled it
> > since I rely heavily on virtual machines both on my desktop and my servers.
>
> Slowly but surely, NM is finally starting to play nicely with bridges.
> For example:
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2010-August/msg00656.html

But for complete support, NM still needs more work:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2010-August/msg00660.html

[cornel panceac]

2010/9/3 Chuck Anderson
> On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:12:32AM +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
> > it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour
> > even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to
> > enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and
> > firefox worked ok.
>
> Why did you have to enable network and disable NetworkManager to
> connect to the network?
> --
>
> because networkmanager service failed to connect to the network at that

moment. today, after many updates, on one pc, networkmanager works fine, on
another, the service fails to start (i see some dbus error in 'messages').
i'll try updating that system again asap. only this will not happen sooner
than two weeks since i'm in holiday this time, and those systems are at
office.