8:54 a.m.
Some moons ago, ssh-agent, was started automatically on login. Now,
sadly, it is not. My hypothesis is that ssh-agent was started by Xorg,
but now that Xorg runs over XWayland, ssh-agent is not getting started
– I am currently logging in to Xorg rather than the default Xwayland
because devilspie2 doesn't work with Xwayland.
Did I just miss a "change configuration" memo somewhere?
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9:20 a.m.
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On 01/07/2016 09:54 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
Some moons ago, ssh-agent, was started automatically on login.
Now, sadly, it is not. My hypothesis is that ssh-agent was started
by Xorg, but now that Xorg runs over XWayland, ssh-agent is not
getting started – I am currently logging in to Xorg rather than the
default Xwayland because devilspie2 doesn't work with Xwayland.
Did I just miss a "change configuration" memo somewhere?
What Fedora version is this? I think that's true of GNOME on Wayland
in F22, but I'm pretty sure it was fixed for F23 (and it's definitely
working on Rawhide, since I'm looking at it right now).
Also, what desktop environment and display manager?
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9:53 a.m.
Stephen Gallagher píše v Čt 07. 01. 2016 v 10:20 -0500:
On 01/07/2016 09:54 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
> Some moons ago, ssh-agent, was started automatically on login.
> Now, sadly, it is not. My hypothesis is that ssh-agent was started
> by Xorg, but now that Xorg runs over XWayland, ssh-agent is not
> getting started – I am currently logging in to Xorg rather than the
> default Xwayland because devilspie2 doesn't work with Xwayland.
>
> Did I just miss a "change configuration" memo somewhere?
>
What Fedora version is this? I think that's true of GNOME on Wayland
in F22, but I'm pretty sure it was fixed for F23 (and it's definitely
working on Rawhide, since I'm looking at it right now).
Also, what desktop environment and display manager?
Could it be related to this: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id
=738205 ?
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New subject: logins and ssh-agent (really devilspie2)
On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 02:54:21PM +0000, Russel Winder wrote:
– I am currently logging in to Xorg rather than the default Xwayland
because devilspie2 doesn't work with Xwayland.
Are there any bug reports for that? Maybe I missed something in
bugzilla?
Michal
11:48 a.m.
On 01/07/2016 06:54 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
Some moons ago, ssh-agent, was started automatically on login.
Which desktop environment? GNOME shell replaced ssh-agent with the
GNOME keyring daemon some time ago, though I don't know when. Seems
like ages. It's a bit sad, since the keyring daemon doesn't support
newer key types.
Anyway, is the problem that you don't see the ssh-agent process (which
is normal) or that there isn't any agent available?
8:24 p.m.
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 10:20 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On 01/07/2016 09:54 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
> Some moons ago, ssh-agent, was started automatically on login.
> Now, sadly, it is not. My hypothesis is that ssh-agent was started
> by Xorg, but now that Xorg runs over XWayland, ssh-agent is not
> getting started – I am currently logging in to Xorg rather than the
> default Xwayland because devilspie2 doesn't work with Xwayland.
>
> Did I just miss a "change configuration" memo somewhere?
>
What Fedora version is this? I think that's true of GNOME on Wayland
in F22, but I'm pretty sure it was fixed for F23 (and it's definitely
working on Rawhide, since I'm looking at it right now).
Fedora Rawhide.
Also, what desktop environment and display manager?
GNOME GNOMEShell
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8:30 p.m.
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 16:53 +0100, Petr Schindler wrote:
[…]
Could it be related to
this: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?
id
=738205 ?
Looks like it could well be related to that.
|> ps ax | grep keyring
1689 ? SLl 0:12 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --
login
1898 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --
foreground --components=secrets
25392 pts/7 S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto keyring
…
Installed Packages
gnome-keyring.x86_64 3.18.3-1.fc24 @rawhide
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8:32 p.m.
New subject: logins and ssh-agent (really devilspie2)
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 10:40 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 02:54:21PM +0000, Russel Winder wrote:
> – I am currently logging in to Xorg rather than the default
> Xwayland
> because devilspie2 doesn't work with Xwayland.
Are there any bug reports for that? Maybe I missed something in
bugzilla?
Not as yet, looks like I should submit one.
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8:34 p.m.
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 09:48 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 01/07/2016 06:54 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
> Some moons ago, ssh-agent, was started automatically on login.
Which desktop environment? GNOME shell replaced ssh-agent with the
GNOME keyring daemon some time ago, though I don't know when. Seems
like ages. It's a bit sad, since the keyring daemon doesn't support
newer key types.
Fedora Rawhide, GNOME, GNOMEShell
Anyway, is the problem that you don't see the ssh-agent process
(which
is normal) or that there isn't any agent available?
Really that there is no SSH key agent running that applications can
query. In a sense I do not care which application does this as long as
one does. It seems like the default should be gnome-keyring-daemon.
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4:09 a.m.
New subject: logins and ssh-agent (really devilspie2)
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 10:40 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 02:54:21PM +0000, Russel Winder wrote:
> – I am currently logging in to Xorg rather than the default
> Xwayland
> because devilspie2 doesn't work with Xwayland.
Are there any bug reports for that? Maybe I missed something in
bugzilla?
I just added https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1297349
Michal
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