X still freezes

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

I thought that one of the benefits of the kernel-based mode setting and
reworked VT code in F10 was that one could still use Ctrl-Alt-<Fn> to
escape even if X froze up. I guess I must have misunderstood because I
just managed to freeze X completely (some combination of showing a flash
video and switching desktops, probably hard to reproduce) and had to
reset the machine to recover. This is with an Intel 965 video chipset.

poc

[Ben Gamari]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  I thought that one of the benefits of the kernel-based mode setting
> and
>  reworked VT code in F10 was that one could still use Ctrl-Alt-<Fn> to
>  escape even if X froze up. I guess I must have misunderstood because I
>  just managed to freeze X completely (some combination of showing a flash
>  video and switching desktops, probably hard to reproduce) and had to
>  reset the machine to recover. This is with an Intel 965 video chipset.
>
>  poc
>
>     
This is because KMS hasn't been merged into F10 for the intel chips. The
patches didn't make the merge date.

On this note, are their plans to merge intel KMS into F10 at all (soon
after release?) or will this be an F11 item?

Thanks,
- Ben

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 21:09 -0500, Ben Gamari (FOSS) wrote:
>  This is because KMS hasn't been merged into F10 for the intel
> chips.
>  The patches didn't make the merge date. 
Funny, I thought Intel was one of the ones that did work. Too bad.

poc

[Timothy Murphy]

On Wednesday 12 November 2008 03:59:01 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

>  > This is because KMS hasn't been merged into F10 for the
> intel chips.
>  > The patches didn't make the merge date.
>
>  Funny, I thought Intel was one of the ones that did work. Too bad. 
Not sure if this is the same thing,
but my Thinkpad T43 under F-10 freezes about once a day.
What I find a little surprising is that the mouse moves about fine.
and my WiFi card flashes as though it is hearing something.

I should really see if I can connect from another computer
when this happens.

There is nothing in /var/log/messages when I re-boot
to indicate what has happened.

[Tim Lauridsen]

Timothy Murphy wrote:
>  On Wednesday 12 November 2008 03:59:01 Patrick O'Callaghan
> wrote:
>
>    
> >> This is because KMS hasn't been merged into F10 for the intel chips.
> >> The patches didn't make the merge date.
> >>       
> > Funny, I thought Intel was one of the ones that did work. Too bad.
> >     
>
>  Not sure if this is the same thing,
>  but my Thinkpad T43 under F-10 freezes about once a day.
>  What I find a little surprising is that the mouse moves about fine.
>  and my WiFi card flashes as though it is hearing something.
>
>  I should really see if I can connect from another computer
>  when this happens.
>
>  There is nothing in /var/log/messages when I re-boot
>  to indicate what has happened.
>
>     
Try checking the old xorg logs for errors.

Tim

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 17:58 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
>  Timothy Murphy wrote: 
>  > On Wednesday 12 November 2008 03:59:01 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  > 
>  >   
>  > > > This is because KMS hasn't been merged into F10 for the intel chips.
>  > > > The patches didn't make the merge date.
>  > > >       
>  > > Funny, I thought Intel was one of the ones that did work. Too bad.
>  > >     
>  > 
>  > Not sure if this is the same thing,
>  > but my Thinkpad T43 under F-10 freezes about once a day.
>  > What I find a little surprising is that the mouse moves about fine.
>  > and my WiFi card flashes as though it is hearing something.
>  > 
>  > I should really see if I can connect from another computer
>  > when this happens.
>  > 
>  > There is nothing in /var/log/messages when I re-boot
>  > to indicate what has happened.
>  > 
>  >   
>  Try checking the old xorg logs for errors. 
I did but there's nothing obvious.

poc

[Tim Lauridsen]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  I thought that one of the benefits of the kernel-based mode setting
> and
>  reworked VT code in F10 was that one could still use Ctrl-Alt-<Fn> to
>  escape even if X froze up. I guess I must have misunderstood because I
>  just managed to freeze X completely (some combination of showing a flash
>  video and switching desktops, probably hard to reproduce) and had to
>  reset the machine to recover. This is with an Intel 965 video chipset.
>
>  poc
>
>     
The is some problem with X freezing on intel chipsets.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464866


Tim

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 08:32 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
>  Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  > I thought that one of the benefits of the kernel-based mode setting and
>  > reworked VT code in F10 was that one could still use Ctrl-Alt-<Fn> to
>  > escape even if X froze up. I guess I must have misunderstood because I
>  > just managed to freeze X completely (some combination of showing a flash
>  > video and switching desktops, probably hard to reproduce) and had to
>  > reset the machine to recover. This is with an Intel 965 video chipset.
>  >
>  > poc
>  >
>  >   
>  The is some problem with X freezing on intel chipsets.
>  
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464866 
Thanks.

poc