Setting the keyboard layout rather late during F22-Beta installation

[Joachim Backes]

Hi all testers,

Running actually a test install of F22 beta
(Fedora-Workstation-netinst-x86_64-22_Beta.iso). I forgot to define my
keyboard layout, so I tried to modify it during the install process
actually running. Therefore I clicked on the keybord button
(US/top/right of the graphical installer window), but nothing happens.
So my question: Is this a bug, or have I to wait until the system is
completely installed, and then to catch up this point?

Kind regards

Joachim Backes

[Giulio E.]

> Hi all testers,
>
> Running actually a test install of F22 beta
> (Fedora-Workstation-netinst-x86_64-22_Beta.iso). I forgot to define my
> keyboard layout, so I tried to modify it during the install process
> actually running. Therefore I clicked on the keybord button
> (US/top/right of the graphical installer window), but nothing happens.
> So my question: Is this a bug, or have I to wait until the system is
> completely installed, and then to catch up this point?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Joachim Backes
>
> --
>
> Fedora release 22 (Twenty Two)
> Kernel-4.0.0-0.rc6.git2.1.fc22.x86_64
>
> Joachim Backes 
> https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes

Hi Joachim.

I'm pretty sure that the label you clicked is isn't editable at all. I'd
bet it's there just to remember what layout you chose, in order to make
you more conscious while entering passwords.

Layout should be changed before launching the effective installation
process (the one where you can add an user and modify root's password).

Alternatively, you may switch it after the completion.

Regards

// Giulio (juliuxpigface)

[Joachim Backes]

On 04/08/2015 01:11 PM, Giulio 'juliuxpigface' wrote:
> > Hi all testers,
> >
> > Running actually a test install of F22 beta
> > (Fedora-Workstation-netinst-x86_64-22_Beta.iso). I forgot to define my
> > keyboard layout, so I tried to modify it during the install process
> > actually running. Therefore I clicked on the keybord button
> > (US/top/right of the graphical installer window), but nothing happens.
> > So my question: Is this a bug, or have I to wait until the system is
> > completely installed, and then to catch up this point?
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Joachim Backes
> >
> > --
> >
> > Fedora release 22 (Twenty Two)
> > Kernel-4.0.0-0.rc6.git2.1.fc22.x86_64
> >
> > Joachim Backes 
> > https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes
>
> Hi Joachim.
>
> I'm pretty sure that the label you clicked is isn't editable at all

Hi Giulio,

if I move the mouse pointer over this label, it changes the shape from
arrow to a hand symbol, and I can click there (similar to changing root
pwd or adding a normal user, which is possible too _during_ installation).

So I'm rather sure it's not only there for demonstrating purposes.
> I'd
> bet it's there just to remember what layout you chose, in order to make
> you more conscious while entering passwords.

But how then enter passwords correctly without a right keyboard layout
(on German keyboards, the letters y and z are exchanged, and some
special chars are located at other places), so if I forgot adding
passwords in a timely manner, it could be difficult to enter the
passwords correctly.

Kind regards

Joachim Backes
> Layout should be changed before launching the effective installation
> process (the one where you can add an user and modify root's password).
>
> Alternatively, you may switch it after the completion.
>
> Regards
>
> // Giulio (juliuxpigface)

[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 13:44 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi Joachim.
> > I'm pretty sure that the label you clicked is isn't editable at all
>
> Hi Giulio,
>
> if I move the mouse pointer over this label, it changes the shape 
> from
> arrow to a hand symbol, and I can click there (similar to changing 
> root
> pwd or adding a normal user, which is possible too _during_ 
> installation).
>
> So I'm rather sure it's not only there for demonstrating purposes.

No, I think Giuilio is right, it's intended to be an indicator only. 
The KEYBOARD spoke on the main hub is where you can configure it.

It would be somewhat tricky to have the spoke available during the 
installation process, I think, because the selected layout gets 
written not just into the installed system root but into the installed 
system's initramfs. If you changed the layout at the end of the 
install process, the initramfs generation step would need to be re-
run, which adds complexity to the install process.
> But how then enter passwords correctly without a right keyboard 
> layout
> (on German keyboards, the letters y and z are exchanged, and some
> special chars are located at other places), so if I forgot adding
> passwords in a timely manner, it could be difficult to enter the
> passwords correctly.

You're supposed to set your keyboard layout before you start 
installing...