Severn install summary

[Jack Bowling]

Dumped Severn on one of my play boxes yesterday. Totally uneventful
install. Congrats to all the crew. Some chagrin at not being allowed to
set boot runlevel during the install but this release is newbie-ized to
the extreme so I can see the rationale.

One glitch is that (as with thr RH9 beta) the first reboot after the
install seems to hang on the kudzu probe. I booted rescue from the CD
and killed kudzu and it proceeded fine after that. IIRC from the RH9
beta, it really isn't hung but instead it is timing out on one of the
services. I think it was CUPS then and possibly is now, too. No relevant
feedback on the output VTs, sorry.

This may be an issue with those not patient enough to let things time
out rather than endlessly reboot after the install.

-- 
Jack Bowling
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[Nathan Murphy]

--- "Michael K. Johnson" <johnsonm(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:25:59PM -0700, Nathan
>  Murphy wrote:
>  > This kernel does not boot on my box and neither
>  does
>  > Severn.  Can't install, won't work - you get the
>  idea.
>  >  Before this, I was running the kernel in the
>  Rawhide
>  > archives as of approx. 13 of June.  It was fine
>  except
>  > that when root I often had to tell commands (like
>  rpm)
>  > to assume the kernel was 2.4.5 or they would not
>  run. 
>  
>  Please try booting with the kernel command line
>  entry
>  acpi=off
>  
>  michaelkjohnson 
I have tried this, and it has no impact. Again
kernel-2.4.20-20.1.2013.nptl from Rawhide works
flawlessly.  Severn's kernel does not.  Is there a
posting somewhere on the net of changes done by Redhat
between the kernel versions?  I'd like a chance to
read through that to try and limit the options of what
the problem could be.

Nate

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[Michael K. Johnson]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:25:59PM -0700, Nathan Murphy wrote:
>  This kernel does not boot on my box and neither does
>  Severn.  Can't install, won't work - you get the idea.
>   Before this, I was running the kernel in the Rawhide
>  archives as of approx. 13 of June.  It was fine except
>  that when root I often had to tell commands (like rpm)
>  to assume the kernel was 2.4.5 or they would not run.  
Please try booting with the kernel command line entry
acpi=off

michaelkjohnson

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[Jack Bowling]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:25:59PM -0700, Nathan Murphy wrote:
<snip> 
>  hde: attached ide-disk driver
>  hde: lost interrupt
>  hde: lost interrupt
>  hde: lost interrupt 
This is usually a sign of bad DMA. If you can boot to a rescue CD, try
adding hde0=nodma to the end of your kernel boot line in your grub.conf
and see if it helps.

-- 
Jack Bowling
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[Nathan Murphy]

I just joined the list, pardon my tardiness.

I have been running Redhat on one of my boxes since
7.3 and always updating packages as they become
available.  Its a play box really.  Right now it is
running all of the most recent packages from Rawhide. 
Everything has been solid for months, so congrats to
the developers.  

However, I just upgraded to kernel
2.4.21-20.1.2024.2.1.nptl

This kernel does not boot on my box and neither does
Severn.  Can't install, won't work - you get the idea.
 Before this, I was running the kernel in the Rawhide
archives as of approx. 13 of June.  It was fine except
that when root I often had to tell commands (like rpm)
to assume the kernel was 2.4.5 or they would not run. 


I think that was due to a hosed implementation of the
nptl libraries.  I waited patiently for it to be fixed
and now can't boot the replacement kernel.  This does
not bode well for me.  

Now to the meat of the situation.  When attempting to
boot I get the nice little message

hde: attached ide-disk driver
hde: lost interrupt
hde: lost interrupt
hde: lost interrupt

this repeats.  Now, I think it has something to do
with my Promise Ultra-ATA 66 controller that my one
harddrive (a Western Digital Ultra-ATA 66 drive) is
plugged into.  There is also a Promise Ultra-ATA 100
Fastrak RAID controller on the motherboard that is
disabled in the BIOS.  By the way, that controller is
hosed, so plugging in my drive there to test is out of
the question.  

Thought I'd see if anybody has any ideas.  I can't be
the only person to suffer this error.  Thanks in
advance to whoever comes up with a good answer.  

Oh yeah, the first time I noticed this problem was
when I'd try to boot one of the brand new 2.6 test
kernels installed from rpm.  

Nate


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[Alexandre Oliva]

On Jul 22, 2003, Nathan Murphy <nathanmurphy333(a)yahoo.com&gt; wrote:

>  hde: lost interrupt 
What's the motherboard/chipset?  I recently ran into a similar problem
on my Asus A7V133 MoBo with VIA KT133 chipset, when I added a PCI IDE
controller card to the system.  It turned out that the problem was
that I had `Byte Merge' enabled in the chipset configuration in the
BIOS.  Disabling that fixed the problem.

-- 
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[Michael K. Johnson]

On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 11:47:07AM -0700, Nathan Murphy wrote:
>  I have tried this, and it has no impact. Again
>  kernel-2.4.20-20.1.2013.nptl from Rawhide works
>  flawlessly.  Severn's kernel does not.  Is there a
>  posting somewhere on the net of changes done by Redhat
>  between the kernel versions?  I'd like a chance to
>  read through that to try and limit the options of what
>  the problem could be. 
Please post in bugzilla with the note that acpi=off did not
make any difference.

michaelkjohnson

 "He that composes himself is wiser than he that composes a book."
 Linux Application Development                     -- Ben Franklin
 http://people.redhat.com/johnsonm/lad/

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[Nathan Murphy]

>  > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:25:59PM -0700, Nathan
>  Murphy wrote:
>  > <snip> 
>  > > hde: attached ide-disk driver
>  > > hde: lost interrupt
>  > > hde: lost interrupt
>  > > hde: lost interrupt
>  > 
>  > This is usually a sign of bad DMA. If you can boot
>  to a rescue CD, try
>  > adding hde0=nodma to the end of your kernel boot
>  line in your grub.conf
>  > and see if it helps.
>  
>  Sorry....thinko due to too many sleepless nights.
>  The switch is actually:
>  
>  ide0=nodma
>  
>  Somebody probably already caught this one.
>  
>  jb 
Actually already tried this.  The drive doesn't boot
in pio mode either with the severn kernel or the new
2.6 test kernels, but I can use the Redhat 9 kernel,
2.4.20-8 or whatever it is and all the Rawhide kernels
up to June 13th or so.  The drive is fine.  I've run
the Smart utilities on it and the Promise card has
never caused problems before.  This is a box that
until this week had stayed up for six weeks with no
oops, segfaults, or otherwise.  I really think that
there is a serious problem in the Promise driver code
that is being overlooked, but to be honest, I never
got around to learning C very well to figure out why.

Nate


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[Jack Bowling]

** Reply to message from Jack Bowling <jbinpg(a)shaw.ca&gt; on Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:23:20
-0700

>  On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:25:59PM -0700, Nathan Murphy wrote:
>  <snip> 
>  > hde: attached ide-disk driver
>  > hde: lost interrupt
>  > hde: lost interrupt
>  > hde: lost interrupt
>  
>  This is usually a sign of bad DMA. If you can boot to a rescue CD, try
>  adding hde0=nodma to the end of your kernel boot line in your grub.conf
>  and see if it helps. 
Sorry....thinko due to too many sleepless nights. The switch is actually:

ide0=nodma

Somebody probably already caught this one.

jb

[Alan Cox]

>  > beta, it really isn't hung but instead it is timing out on
> one of the
>  > services. I think it was CUPS then and possibly is now, too. No relevant
>  > feedback on the output VTs, sorry.
>  
>  I found that simply rebooting did the trick, but had the same hang. 
Similar on one of my boxes except I hard to kill kudzu completely to
get it to stay happy after boot up

[Rick Johnson]

On 7/22/2003 12:28 PM, Jack Bowling wrote:

>  Dumped Severn on one of my play boxes yesterday. Totally uneventful
>  install. Congrats to all the crew. Some chagrin at not being allowed to
>  set boot runlevel during the install but this release is newbie-ized to
>  the extreme so I can see the rationale. 
I was a bit disappointed at the lack of options as well, to iniitially 
define screen resolution, login type, etc. On the plus side, resolution is 
changable from the GUI.

>  One glitch is that (as with thr RH9 beta) the first reboot after the
>  install seems to hang on the kudzu probe. I booted rescue from the CD
>  and killed kudzu and it proceeded fine after that. IIRC from the RH9
>  beta, it really isn't hung but instead it is timing out on one of the
>  services. I think it was CUPS then and possibly is now, too. No relevant
>  feedback on the output VTs, sorry. 
I found that simply rebooting did the trick, but had the same hang.


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