First of all, excuse me because maybe this is not the right list to ask this. After a clean install of Fedora 16 I have found there is no 'cpuspeed' package anymore. Googling a little I have found an alpha version of the release notes [1] telling this package has become obsolete and replaced for cpupowerutils.
I used cpuspeed to slow down the processor if the temperature was very high, to prevent my old laptop to shut down, which happens when it is at 100% a lot of time, for example encoding a video. My problem is after reading documentation and googling a lot, I have not found a way to do the same with the new package. I hope anyone can help. Thank you.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Alpha_release_notes#What.27s_New_in...
On 11/13/2011 07:07 PM, Benjamín Valero Espinosa wrote:
First of all, excuse me because maybe this is not the right list to ask this. After a clean install of Fedora 16 I have found there is no 'cpuspeed' package anymore. Googling a little I have found an alpha version of the release notes [1] telling this package has become obsolete and replaced for cpupowerutils.
Fedora users list is the right list to ask since Fedora 16 isn't a test release anymore.
I used cpuspeed to slow down the processor if the temperature was very high, to prevent my old laptop to shut down, which happens when it is at 100% a lot of time, for example encoding a video. My problem is after reading documentation and googling a lot, I have not found a way to do the same with the new package. I hope anyone can help. Thank you.
Perhaps, you can file a bug report? It seems there is a problem that causes your system to overheat and unless you are already that it is a hardware problem, it is better to get the problem fixed rather than workaround it.
Rahul
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 00:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Perhaps, you can file a bug report? It seems there is a problem that causes your system to overheat and unless you are already that it is a hardware problem, it is better to get the problem fixed rather than workaround it.
Well, some systems are just badly designed and won't run at full power for extended periods without overheating. I had a laptop like that once. My 'workaround' was to buy a cooling pad.
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 00:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Perhaps, you can file a bug report? It seems there is a problem that causes your system to overheat and unless you are already that it is a hardware problem, it is better to get the problem fixed rather than workaround it.
Well, some systems are just badly designed and won't run at full power for extended periods without overheating. I had a laptop like that once. My 'workaround' was to buy a cooling pad.
Wouldn't it be a better fix to get to the vendor (assuming it is still under warranty) and demand either the money back or a fix? I doubt it takes that long to discover such issues so I don't get why people end up having such devices for a longer period of time.
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 12:06 +0100, drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 00:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Perhaps, you can file a bug report? It seems there is a problem that causes your system to overheat and unless you are already that it is a hardware problem, it is better to get the problem fixed rather than workaround it.
Well, some systems are just badly designed and won't run at full power for extended periods without overheating. I had a laptop like that once. My 'workaround' was to buy a cooling pad.
Wouldn't it be a better fix to get to the vendor (assuming it is still under warranty) and demand either the money back or a fix? I doubt it takes that long to discover such issues so I don't get why people end up having such devices for a longer period of time.
The vendor just tells you 'consumer laptops aren't designed to use full CPU power for extended periods'. I've tried.
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 12:06 +0100, drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 00:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Perhaps, you can file a bug report? It seems there is a problem that causes your system to overheat and unless you are already that it is a hardware problem, it is better to get the problem fixed rather than workaround it.
Well, some systems are just badly designed and won't run at full power for extended periods without overheating. I had a laptop like that once. My 'workaround' was to buy a cooling pad.
Wouldn't it be a better fix to get to the vendor (assuming it is still under warranty) and demand either the money back or a fix? I doubt it takes that long to discover such issues so I don't get why people end up having such devices for a longer period of time.
The vendor just tells you 'consumer laptops aren't designed to use full CPU power for extended periods'. I've tried.
Huh? ... Which vendor was that? (To add to my "not buy from" list ;) )
On 17 November 2011 13:43, drago01 drago01@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 12:06 +0100, drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 00:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Perhaps, you can file a bug report? It seems there is a problem that causes your system to overheat and unless you are already that it is a hardware problem, it is better to get the problem fixed rather than workaround it.
Well, some systems are just badly designed and won't run at full power for extended periods without overheating. I had a laptop like that once. My 'workaround' was to buy a cooling pad.
Wouldn't it be a better fix to get to the vendor (assuming it is still under warranty) and demand either the money back or a fix? I doubt it takes that long to discover such issues so I don't get why people end up having such devices for a longer period of time.
The vendor just tells you 'consumer laptops aren't designed to use full CPU power for extended periods'. I've tried.
Huh? ... Which vendor was that? (To add to my "not buy from" list ;) )
I have pretty much gotten that from everyone (ASUS, IBM, HP, Dell, nonames) when working corporate support. Consumer level laptops are cheap because they are meant to run basically low level stuff most of the time and high level stuff very very short times. The extra costs that go into various enterprise and "gamer" class laptops is to make sure that the high-level can be longer.. but they will still only rate it for like 10 minutes of 100% CPU usage versus 30-60 seconds on a commercial laptop. If you need longer get a desktop was what we were told by the above.
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
I have pretty much gotten that from everyone (ASUS, IBM, HP, Dell, nonames) when working corporate support. Consumer level laptops are cheap because they are meant to run basically low level stuff most of the time and high level stuff very very short times. The extra costs that go into various enterprise and "gamer" class laptops is to make sure that the high-level can be longer.. but they will still only rate it for like 10 minutes of 100% CPU usage versus 30-60 seconds on a commercial laptop. If you need longer get a desktop was what we were told by the above.
All of the problem laptops I've seen have been HP. If they're not overheating they are falling apart.
I have put my ASUS consumer-level laptop (Core 2, mid-grade GPU) through its paces for well over 10 minutes from video encoding to gaming and it's never been unreasonably warm. Sure, the fans get loud, but I'd rather have that then a hot lap.
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 21:43 +0100, drago01 wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 12:06 +0100, drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 00:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Perhaps, you can file a bug report? It seems there is a problem that causes your system to overheat and unless you are already that it is a hardware problem, it is better to get the problem fixed rather than workaround it.
Well, some systems are just badly designed and won't run at full power for extended periods without overheating. I had a laptop like that once. My 'workaround' was to buy a cooling pad.
Wouldn't it be a better fix to get to the vendor (assuming it is still under warranty) and demand either the money back or a fix? I doubt it takes that long to discover such issues so I don't get why people end up having such devices for a longer period of time.
The vendor just tells you 'consumer laptops aren't designed to use full CPU power for extended periods'. I've tried.
Huh? ... Which vendor was that? (To add to my "not buy from" list ;) )
Mine was a Lenovo (not a Thinkpad), but as Smooge says, this is pretty much standard practice.
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 21:43 +0100, drago01 wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 12:06 +0100, drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 00:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Perhaps, you can file a bug report? It seems there is a problem that causes your system to overheat and unless you are already that it is a hardware problem, it is better to get the problem fixed rather than workaround it.
Well, some systems are just badly designed and won't run at full power for extended periods without overheating. I had a laptop like that once. My 'workaround' was to buy a cooling pad.
Wouldn't it be a better fix to get to the vendor (assuming it is still under warranty) and demand either the money back or a fix? I doubt it takes that long to discover such issues so I don't get why people end up having such devices for a longer period of time.
The vendor just tells you 'consumer laptops aren't designed to use full CPU power for extended periods'. I've tried.
Huh? ... Which vendor was that? (To add to my "not buy from" list ;) )
Mine was a Lenovo (not a Thinkpad), but as Smooge says, this is pretty much standard practice.
Apparently too many customers just accept that but I wouldn't. I can run my HP as long as I want (full load) the fan spins up but it doesn't overheat.
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 22:21 +0100, drago01 wrote:
The vendor just tells you 'consumer laptops aren't designed to use full CPU power for extended periods'. I've tried.
Huh? ... Which vendor was that? (To add to my "not buy from" list ;) )
Mine was a Lenovo (not a Thinkpad), but as Smooge says, this is pretty much standard practice.
Apparently too many customers just accept that but I wouldn't. I can run my HP as long as I want (full load) the fan spins up but it doesn't overheat.
It varies a lot; it's not as if _every_ model shipped has an overheating problem. It's usually the slimmer, lighter weight ones that have issues - your average 15", 5 pound slabbook will likely be fine as there's enough spare space to get decent cooling in there. But if you happen to get a model which has issues, the manufacturer likely isn't going to consider it something you deserve to get fixed.
On 11/13/2011 02:37 PM, Benjamín Valero Espinosa wrote:
First of all, excuse me because maybe this is not the right list to ask this. After a clean install of Fedora 16 I have found there is no 'cpuspeed' package anymore. Googling a little I have found an alpha version of the release notes [1] telling this package has become obsolete and replaced for cpupowerutils.
I used cpuspeed to slow down the processor if the temperature was very high, to prevent my old laptop to shut down, which happens when it is at 100% a lot of time, for example encoding a video. My problem is after reading documentation and googling a lot, I have not found a way to do the same with the new package. I hope anyone can help. Thank you.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Alpha_release_notes#What.27s_New_in...
I stumbled across a similar problem trying to set the CPU frequency.
If you look at /etc/sysconfig/cpupwer you'll find these variables which are pulled in by the systemd service cpupower.service.
# See 'cpupower help' and cpupower(1) for more info CPUPOWER_START_OPTS="frequency-set -g performance" CPUPOWER_STOP_OPTS="frequency-set -g ondemand"
From the service file:
[Unit] Description=Configure CPU power related settings After=syslog.target
[Service] Type=oneshot RemainAfterExit=yes EnvironmentFile=/etc/sysconfig/cpupower ExecStart=/usr/bin/cpupower $CPUPOWER_START_OPTS ExecStop=/usr/bin/cpupower $CPUPOWER_STOP_OPTS
[Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Benjamín Valero Espinosa benjavalero@gmail.com wrote:
First of all, excuse me because maybe this is not the right list to ask this. After a clean install of Fedora 16 I have found there is no 'cpuspeed' package anymore. Googling a little I have found an alpha version of the release notes [1] telling this package has become obsolete and replaced for cpupowerutils.
I used cpuspeed to slow down the processor if the temperature was very high, to prevent my old laptop to shut down, which happens when it is at 100% a lot of time, for example encoding a video. My problem is after reading documentation and googling a lot, I have not found a way to do the same with the new package. I hope anyone can help. Thank you.
I believe its now in kernel-tools and is called cpupower.
Peter
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