7:03 a.m.
Yesterday we were trying to figure out why no prices show up
on newegg.com on a friend's rhel 6 system when visiting it
with firefox. The only google results I found was someone with
the same problem when he disabled javascript (but javascript
was not disabled).
Today I tried it on my fedora 16 boot partition with firefox
7.0.1, and by golly, I see the same problem. The box in the
middle of the page that normally has the price info and
the add to cart button is not showing the price (or the button).
Is javascript busted in f16? Does anyone else have a problem
with newegg showing prices? The specific web page I visited
was:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
On my fedora 15 system with firefox 7.0.1, the price does
appear. Same version of firefox, so I really don't understand
what is happening here :-).
Anyone else see the same problem with newegg?
7:12 a.m.
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:03:25AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
Yesterday we were trying to figure out why no prices show up
on newegg.com on a friend's rhel 6 system when visiting it
with firefox. The only google results I found was someone with
the same problem when he disabled javascript (but javascript
was not disabled).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
On my fedora 15 system with firefox 7.0.1, the price does
appear. Same version of firefox, so I really don't understand
what is happening here :-).
By golly, you're right. I normally use chrome or opera, so didn't see
it, but I see, opening that link with Firefox on F16, that I have the
same issue. Opening it with chrome is fine.
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7:35 a.m.
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:12:43 -0400
Scott Robbins wrote:
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:03:25AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Yesterday we were trying to figure out why no prices show up
> on newegg.com on a friend's rhel 6 system when visiting it
> with firefox. The only google results I found was someone with
> the same problem when he disabled javascript (but javascript
> was not disabled).
>
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
>
> On my fedora 15 system with firefox 7.0.1, the price does
> appear. Same version of firefox, so I really don't understand
> what is happening here :-).
By golly, you're right. I normally use chrome or opera, so didn't see
it, but I see, opening that link with Firefox on F16, that I have the
same issue. Opening it with chrome is fine.
To add even more confusion, if I (Gasp!) run firefox as root on
fedora 16, I can see the newegg prices, it is only when run as
a plain old user that I can't see the prices (and I have tried
safe mode and making a brand new .mozilla directory, etc - none
of that stuff works). Is some piece of javascript installed with
permissions that only allow root to run it? This is really weird.
8:04 a.m.
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:35:33AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:12:43 -0400
Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:03:25AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
>
>
>
> By golly, you're right. I normally use chrome or opera, so didn't see
> it, but I see, opening that link with Firefox on F16, that I have the
> same issue. Opening it with chrome is fine.
To add even more confusion, if I (Gasp!) run firefox as root on
fedora 16, I can see the newegg prices, it is only when run as
a plain old user that I can't see the prices (and I have tried
safe mode and making a brand new .mozilla directory, etc - none
of that stuff works). Is some piece of javascript installed with
permissions that only allow root to run it? This is really weird.
Nope, if I run it as root (in fluxbox--as normal user I'm using
openbox), I still don't get the prices.
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7:44 a.m.
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 08:12 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:03:25AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Yesterday we were trying to figure out why no prices show up
> on newegg.com on a friend's rhel 6 system when visiting it
> with firefox. The only google results I found was someone with
> the same problem when he disabled javascript (but javascript
> was not disabled).
>
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
>
> On my fedora 15 system with firefox 7.0.1, the price does
> appear. Same version of firefox, so I really don't understand
> what is happening here :-).
By golly, you're right. I normally use chrome or opera, so didn't see
it, but I see, opening that link with Firefox on F16, that I have the
same issue. Opening it with chrome is fine.
It works here, and I'm even using noscript (though I've allowed
newegg)...
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7:57 a.m.
On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 05:44:44 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
It works here, and I'm even using noscript (though I've
allowed
newegg)...
Weird. If only we could figure out what is different :-).
In any case, since I got confirmation that at least one
other person sees the bug, I added a bugzilla for it:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=751071
8:08 a.m.
On Thursday 03 Nov 2011 08:03:25 Tom Horsley wrote:
Yesterday we were trying to figure out why no prices show up
on newegg.com on a friend's rhel 6 system when visiting it
with firefox. The only google results I found was someone with
the same problem when he disabled javascript (but javascript
was not disabled).
Today I tried it on my fedora 16 boot partition with firefox
7.0.1, and by golly, I see the same problem. The box in the
middle of the page that normally has the price info and
the add to cart button is not showing the price (or the button).
Is javascript busted in f16? Does anyone else have a problem
with newegg showing prices? The specific web page I visited
was:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
On my fedora 15 system with firefox 7.0.1, the price does
appear. Same version of firefox, so I really don't understand
what is happening here :-).
Anyone else see the same problem with newegg?
Its working fine here, firefox 7.0.1 f16
Martin
8:25 a.m.
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:16:52AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 11/03/2011 07:03 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Anyone else see the same problem with newegg?
I would have to guess it is a video driver issue instead of a Firefox
issue. You might want to state the video card and driver you are using
(proprietary or otherwise).
Interesting. In my case
nVidia Corporation C61 GeForce 6150SE (from lspci)
Using the default nouveau driver.
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8:53 a.m.
On 11/03/2011 08:25 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:16:52AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 11/03/2011 07:03 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> Anyone else see the same problem with newegg?
> I would have to guess it is a video driver issue instead of a Firefox
> issue. You might want to state the video card and driver you are using
> (proprietary or otherwise).
Interesting. In my case
nVidia Corporation C61 GeForce 6150SE (from lspci)
Using the default nouveau driver.
Have you turned all of your addons off in FireFox and then gone to NewEgg? I see
this type of issue sometimes on other websites
until I play around with my noscripts addon and "allow" things.
Kevin
10:01 a.m.
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:53:15AM -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
On 11/03/2011 08:25 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:16:52AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> On 11/03/2011 07:03 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>> Anyone else see the same problem with newegg?
>> I would have to guess it is a video driver issue instead of a Firefox
>> issue. You might want to state the video card and driver you are using
>
> nVidia Corporation C61 GeForce 6150SE (from lspci)
>
> Using the default nouveau driver.
>
>
Have you turned all of your addons off in FireFox and then gone to NewEgg? I see this
type of issue sometimes on other websites
until I play around with my noscripts addon and "allow" things.
Ahah, I see I had adblock. I've disabled it and restarted firefox
but still no joy.
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12:25 p.m.
On 2011/11/03 08:16 (GMT-0500) Michael Cronenworth composed:
On 11/03/2011 07:03 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
> Anyone else see the same problem with newegg?
I would have to guess it is a video driver issue instead of a
Firefox
issue. You might want to state the video card and driver you are using
(proprietary or otherwise).
I'd be shocked if you turned out to be right about a video driver being at fault.
More likely candidates:
1-IPV6 vs IPV4
2-extensions
3-site scripting: Newegg adjusts various sizes of objects according to what
it discovers about your browser settings, like viewport size, screen
resolution and default font size
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3:09 p.m.
On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:25:21 -0400
Felix Miata wrote:
1-IPV6 vs IPV4
Bingo! You are a genius! I had ipv6 disabled in my fedora 15
about:config in firefox, on fedora 16 I had the default enabled
setting. When I disable it on f16, I can see the prices again.
Apparently it can't lookup the IP for content.newegg.com
when ipv6 is enabled (though it can lookup everything else with
no obvious problem :-).
3:16 p.m.
On 11/03/2011 03:09 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
Bingo! You are a genius! I had ipv6 disabled in my fedora 15
about:config in firefox, on fedora 16 I had the default enabled
setting. When I disable it on f16, I can see the prices again.
Apparently it can't lookup the IP for content.newegg.com
when ipv6 is enabled (though it can lookup everything else with
no obvious problem:-).
Sorry, but IPv6 has nothing to do with your problem and changing the
preference is just coincidental.
3:30 p.m.
On 11/03/2011 03:16 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 11/03/2011 03:09 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Bingo! You are a genius! I had ipv6 disabled in my fedora 15
> about:config in firefox, on fedora 16 I had the default enabled
> setting. When I disable it on f16, I can see the prices again.
>
> Apparently it can't lookup the IP for content.newegg.com
> when ipv6 is enabled (though it can lookup everything else with
> no obvious problem:-).
Sorry, but IPv6 has nothing to do with your problem and changing the
preference is just coincidental.
Hmm, don't know that I agree with that.
I've seen issues in other places with IPV6 turned on or off respectively. Perhaps
the
correct way to test that is to make sure to run firefox with all extensions turned off,
IPV6 set on, see what newegg.com looks like,
turn off IPV6, checkout newegg.com again. That way you are sure that extensions are
doing something weird and can verify the
validity of IPV6 getting in the way or not.
Kevin
3:35 p.m.
On 11/03/2011 03:30 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
Hmm, don't know that I agree with that. I've seen issues in
other places with IPV6 turned on or off respectively. Perhaps the
correct way to test that is to make sure to run firefox with all extensions turned off,
IPV6 set on, see what newegg.com looks like,
turn off IPV6, checkout newegg.com again. That way you are sure that extensions are
doing something weird and can verify the
validity of IPV6 getting in the way or not.
The price is ASCII text embedded in the HTML page. IPv6 has absolutely
nothing to do with this issue. You could view the source code of the
page and find the price. It is a rendering problem (that I, and others
cannot reproduce).
There is no mythical IPv6 monster eating your bytes. I hate that this
"disabling IPv6 fixed it" myth exists. Pretty soon you will have to
enable IPv6 to even get on the Internet.
3:45 p.m.
On 11/03/2011 04:35 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
The price is ASCII text embedded in the HTML page.
Actually, if
I understood correctly, what I believe he said was that the
price data was fetched and inserted into the page by JavaScript, and the
JavaScript code in question was unable to resolve the host name it
needed to contact to fetch the price.
There is no mythical IPv6 monster eating your bytes. I hate that
this
"disabling IPv6 fixed it" myth exists.
If the host has an IPv6 address,
and if either (a) the IPv6 address
isn't reachable or (b) there's something messed up in the IPv6
configuration on your end, such that /no/ IPv6 address is reachable,
then it's entirely plausible that disabling IPv6 could fix an issue like
this.
jik
3:50 p.m.
On 11/03/2011 03:45 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
Actually, if I understood correctly, what I believe he said was that
the price data was fetched and inserted into the page by JavaScript,
and the JavaScript code in question was unable to resolve the host
name it needed to contact to fetch the price.
Yes, it is fetched with JavaScript. See below.
If the host has an IPv6 address, and if either (a) the IPv6 address
isn't reachable or (b) there's something messed up in the IPv6
configuration on your end, such that /no/ IPv6 address is reachable,
then it's entirely plausible that disabling IPv6 could fix an issue
like this.
Newegg doesn't have a single IPv6 address attached to any of their
domains. That's also ignoring the fact that Firefox, as well as glibc,
will start with a IPv4 address by default unless it detects you have a
real (non 6to4) IPv6 default route. Toggling a little setting in Firefox
will do jack squat.
Explain yourself out of that one. I'm done with this thread.
4:01 p.m.
On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:50:40 -0500
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Toggling a little setting in Firefox
will do jack squat.
If by "jack squat" you mean make it work versus not
work, you are right.
Explain yourself out of that one.
Explain why "jack squat" equates to 100% correlation
with working versus not working with as many tests
as you care to make.
4:07 p.m.
On 11/03/2011 04:50 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Explain yourself out of that one. I'm done with this thread.
I do not understand why you feel the need to be so confrontational and
hostile about this issue. It is neither productive nor helpful, and it
has the tendency to scare off testers from providing useful feedback.
Neither the OP nor I can explain /why/ his system behaves the way it
does. But his system is clearly behaving that way, and being able to
explain why is not a prerequisite to being able to share whatever
information we do know in the hope that it will be helpful to others.
jik
//
3:54 p.m.
On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:35:48 -0500
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
The price is ASCII text embedded in the HTML page. IPv6 has
absolutely
nothing to do with this issue. You could view the source code of the
page and find the price. It is a rendering problem (that I, and others
cannot reproduce).
No, the price is ascii text embedded in the javascript obtained
from content.newegg.com, and with ip6v enabled firefox and wget
consistently fail to resolve the IP for content.newegg.com.
There is no mythical IPv6 monster eating your bytes.
True: There is an *actual* IPv6 monster eating the DNS for
content.newegg.com, no myth. 100% correlation with turning
the flag on and off in firefox as many times as I care to test it.
Almost certainly nothing to do with firefox itself though,
more likely some combination of strange an wondrous problems
with firewalls and DNS server forwarding and wot-not on the
long an winding road out of the corporate firewall I was
inside to the actual lookup of content.newegg.com (but there
are a gazillion other <whatever>.newegg.com URLs it has no
problem resolving).
5:54 p.m.
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 04:09:57PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:25:21 -0400
Felix Miata wrote:
> 1-IPV6 vs IPV4
Bingo! You are a genius! I had ipv6 disabled in my fedora 15
about:config in firefox, on fedora 16 I had the default enabled
setting. When I disable it on f16, I can see the prices again.
Yup, that fixed it for me too.
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On 03/11/11 13:03, Tom Horsley wrote:
On my fedora 15 system with firefox 7.0.1, the price does appear.
Same version of firefox, so I really don't understand what is
happening here :-).
Anyone else see the same problem with newegg?
I can't reproduce this.
firefox-7.0.1-3.fc16.x86_64
Further more: is this a bug in fedora or is this a bug on this special
web page? I would say the latter, although I understand your annoyance.
Matthias
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