Gimp 2.6 menu

[Antonio M]

there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....

[Marco Crosio]

menu has moved from toolbar to the image...

2008/10/7 Antonio M
> there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....
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[Antonio M]

2008/10/7 Marco Crosio :
> menu has moved from toolbar to the image...
>
> 2008/10/7 Antonio M
> > there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....
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funny decision, my two cents...
If I want to create a new file, what shall I do???

[Dennis Jacobfeuerborn]

On 10/07/2008 07:09 PM, Antonio M wrote:
> 2008/10/7 Marco Crosio:
> > menu has moved from toolbar to the image...
>
> funny decision, my two cents...
> If I want to create a new file, what shall I do???

Select File->New... from the menu?

Regards,
   Dennis

[Patrick Lists]

Dennis J. wrote:
> On 10/07/2008 07:09 PM, Antonio M wrote:
> > 2008/10/7 Marco Crosio:
> > > menu has moved from toolbar to the image...
> >
> > funny decision, my two cents...
> > If I want to create a new file, what shall I do???
>
> Select File->New... from the menu?

Doesn't he mean that Gimp is missing from the Gnome menu under
Applications -> Graphics?

Regards,
Patrick

[Antonio M]

2008/10/8 Patrick :
> Dennis J. wrote:
> > On 10/07/2008 07:09 PM, Antonio M wrote:
> > > 2008/10/7 Marco Crosio:
> > > > menu has moved from toolbar to the image...
> > >
> > > funny decision, my two cents...
> > > If I want to create a new file, what shall I do???
> >
> > Select File->New... from the menu?
>
> Doesn't he mean that Gimp is missing from the Gnome menu under
> Applications -> Graphics?
>
> Regards,
> Patrick
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Right Patrick......I am mssing the item Gimp im my Application menu..

[Antonio M]

2008/10/8 Antonio M :
> 2008/10/8 Patrick :
> > Dennis J. wrote:
> > > On 10/07/2008 07:09 PM, Antonio M wrote:
> > > > 2008/10/7 Marco Crosio:
> > > > > menu has moved from toolbar to the image...
> > > >
> > > > funny decision, my two cents...
> > > > If I want to create a new file, what shall I do???
> > >
> > > Select File->New... from the menu?
> >
> > Doesn't he mean that Gimp is missing from the Gnome menu under
> > Applications -> Graphics?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Patrick
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> Right Patrick......I am mssing the item Gimp im my Application menu..
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funny things happening: on another system Gimp menu is there!!! how
shall I put that Gimp in the Application/Graphics menu???

[Denis Leroy]

Antonio M wrote:
> Right Patrick......I am mssing the item Gimp im my Application menu..

Keep in mind the menu entry is actually called "GNU Image Manipulation 
Image"...

[Antonio M]

2008/10/8 Denis Leroy :
> Antonio M wrote:
> > Right Patrick......I am mssing the item Gimp im my Application menu..
>
> Keep in mind the menu entry is actually called "GNU Image Manipulation
> Image"...
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anyway, it is missing :-)

Just to fix it, in one case (where it is present) I installed Gimp 2.6
and at same time I disinstalled Gimp 2.4 by yumex..
Where it is not present, I disinstalled first Gimp 2.4 and then I
installed Gimp 2.6.
Any help??
I planning to remove tonight completely Gimp 2.6 and reinstall
it...let's if it fixes the issue.

[Denis Leroy]

Antonio M wrote:
> Just to fix it, in one case (where it is present) I installed Gimp 2.6
> and at same time I disinstalled Gimp 2.4 by yumex..
> Where it is not present, I disinstalled first Gimp 2.4 and then I
> installed Gimp 2.6.
> Any help??
> I planning to remove tonight completely Gimp 2.6 and reinstall
> it...let's if it fixes the issue.

what does 'rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop' return ?

and 'rpm -V gimp' ?

You can also run "update-desktop-database" as root.

[Antonio M]

2008/10/8 Denis Leroy :
> Antonio M wrote:
> > Just to fix it, in one case (where it is present) I installed Gimp 2.6
> > and at same time I disinstalled Gimp 2.4 by yumex..
> > Where it is not present, I disinstalled first Gimp 2.4 and then I
> > installed Gimp 2.6.
> > Any help??
> > I planning to remove tonight completely Gimp 2.6 and reinstall
> > it...let's if it fixes the issue.
>
> what does 'rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop' return ?
>
> and 'rpm -V gimp' ?
>
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[antonio@Casa ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
[antonio@Casa ~]$ rpm -V gimp
[antonio@Casa ~]$

update-desktop-database
Could not parse file
'/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
directory

Still missing the menu...

[Jerry Amundson]

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Antonio M  wrote:
> [antonio@Casa ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
> gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
> [antonio@Casa ~]$ rpm -V gimp
> [antonio@Casa ~]$
>
> update-desktop-database
> Could not parse file
> '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
> directory
>
> Still missing the menu...

How about for another user with a fresh $HOME?

jerry

[Antonio M]

2008/10/8 Jerry Amundson :
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Antonio M  wrote:
> > [antonio@Casa ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
> > gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
> > [antonio@Casa ~]$ rpm -V gimp
> > [antonio@Casa ~]$
> >
> > update-desktop-database
> > Could not parse file
> > '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
> > directory
> >
> > Still missing the menu...
>
> How about for another user with a fresh $HOME?
>
> jerry
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that is a good point....I created another user, and  he has the Gimp
in the menu...what shall I do???

XO: Not so good so far

[Tarus Balog]

Gang:

I'm curious how everyone else is getting on. I followed the FAQ:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/ 
Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card

and was able to get the XO to boot into Fedora (cute hotdog). But then  
I get a kernel warning on the Desktop:

http://www.opennms.org/XO/XO-KernelFail.jpg

Looking through /var/log/messages I don't see anything real useful -  
no panics or errors that stand out. The load is very high, with a 15  
minute load average near 8.

I was curious if anyone else had managed to get things going a bit  
better, and if I needed to be using a different image, etc.

-T

P.S. 4GB SanDisk card if that matters
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XO: Not so good so far

[Tarus Balog]

On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
> The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.

Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most  
of the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.

-T
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XO: Not so good so far

[Christopher David Desjardins]

I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my fonts
are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME is
quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.

What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
doing?

C

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog  wrote:
> On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
>
> The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
> >
>
> Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of the
> CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
>
> -T
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XO: Not so good so far

[Christopher David Desjardins]

One other thing .. might I suggest opensuse's main menu or the gnome menu
(that resembles windows 95) for the default menu as it takes up much less
space.

My fonts are also getting slightly cut off too.
Cheers,
C

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my fonts
> are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME is
> quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
> GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.
>
> What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
> doing?
>
> C
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog  wrote:
> > On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
> >
> > The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
> > >
> >
> > Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of
> > the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
> >
> > -T
> >
> > Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   [phone]
> > The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    [phone]
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XO: Not so good so far

[dave yates]

I too got the kernel opps message; only once in about 10 sessions though.
The fonts are big here as well. I have also had, in about 2 of 10 sessions,
gnome lock up completely. It's been sort of hit or miss for me. I have been
able to successfully start a gnome session most of the time, but in general
the gnome desktop is unstable. I was able to get network manager to find my
wifi, but the whole desktop locked up after trying to launch firefox.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my fonts
> are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME is
> quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
> GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.
>
> What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
> doing?
>
> C
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog  wrote:
> > On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
> >
> > The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
> > >
> >
> > Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of
> > the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
> >
> > -T
> >
> > Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   [phone]
> > The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    [phone]
> > Email: [e-mail]                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
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XO: Not so good so far

[Christopher David Desjardins]

That's been my experience too.  I've been able to connect to wifi with
nm-applet (unsecured network) no problem but i figured i'd install irssi to
to go to #fedora-qa except that yum install irssi has seemed to kill this
machine.  the only application that i've been able to manually launch has
been gnome-terminal.

by the way, are you fonts cut off partially?

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:56 PM, dave yates wrote:
> I too got the kernel opps message; only once in about 10 sessions though.
> The fonts are big here as well. I have also had, in about 2 of 10 sessions,
> gnome lock up completely. It's been sort of hit or miss for me. I have been
> able to successfully start a gnome session most of the time, but in general
> the gnome desktop is unstable. I was able to get network manager to find my
> wifi, but the whole desktop locked up after trying to launch firefox.
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
> > I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my fonts
> > are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME is
> > quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
> > GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.
> >
> > What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
> > doing?
> >
> > C
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog  wrote:
> > > On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
> > >
> > > The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of
> > > the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
> > >
> > > -T
> > >
> > > Tarus Balog, OpenNMS Maintainer             Main:   [phone]
> > > The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    [phone]
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XO: Not so good so far

[dave yates]

Yes, my fonts are cut off partially.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Christopher Desjardins <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> That's been my experience too.  I've been able to connect to wifi with
> nm-applet (unsecured network) no problem but i figured i'd install irssi to
> to go to #fedora-qa except that yum install irssi has seemed to kill this
> machine.  the only application that i've been able to manually launch has
> been gnome-terminal.
>
> by the way, are you fonts cut off partially?
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:56 PM, dave yates wrote:
> > I too got the kernel opps message; only once in about 10 sessions though.
> > The fonts are big here as well. I have also had, in about 2 of 10 sessions,
> > gnome lock up completely. It's been sort of hit or miss for me. I have been
> > able to successfully start a gnome session most of the time, but in general
> > the gnome desktop is unstable. I was able to get network manager to find my
> > wifi, but the whole desktop locked up after trying to launch firefox.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins <
> > [e-mail]> wrote:
> > > I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my fonts
> > > are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME is
> > > quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
> > > GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.
> > >
> > > What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
> > > doing?
> > >
> > > C
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog  wrote:
> > > > On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of
> > > > the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
> > > >
> > > > -T
> > > >
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> > > > The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    [phone]
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XO: Not so good so far

[David Nalley]

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:05 PM, dave yates  wrote:
> Yes, my fonts are cut off partially.
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Christopher Desjardins
>  wrote:
> > That's been my experience too.  I've been able to connect to wifi with
> > nm-applet (unsecured network) no problem but i figured i'd install irssi to
> > to go to #fedora-qa except that yum install irssi has seemed to kill this
> > machine.  the only application that i've been able to manually launch has
> > been gnome-terminal.
> >
> > by the way, are you fonts cut off partially?
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:56 PM, dave yates 
> > wrote:
> > > I too got the kernel opps message; only once in about 10 sessions though.
> > > The fonts are big here as well. I have also had, in about 2 of 10 sessions,
> > > gnome lock up completely. It's been sort of hit or miss for me. I have been
> > > able to successfully start a gnome session most of the time, but in general
> > > the gnome desktop is unstable. I was able to get network manager to find my
> > > wifi, but the whole desktop locked up after trying to launch firefox.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins
> > >  wrote:
> > > > I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my
> > > > fonts are enormous ... not sure if anyone else is having that issue?  GNOME
> > > > is quite sluggish, but it only took about 5 minutes to get to GNOME.  Also
> > > > GNOME seems to be a bit unresponsive but it does work.
> > > >
> > > > What sort of reporting/testing at this stage of the game should we be
> > > > doing?
> > > >
> > > > C
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Tarus Balog  wrote:
> > > > > On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog wrote:
> > > > > > The load is very high, with a 15 minute load average near 8.
> > > > >
> > > > > Managed to get top to run. A process called "loop3" is using up most of
> > > > > the CPU (25-30%). Not sure what that does.
> > > > >
> > > > > -T
> > > > > _______________________________________________________________________
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> > > > > The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    [phone]
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Cutoff fonts are something that recently appeared and weren't in the
20080828 build Jeremy posted.
The current build we are installing tends to lock the machine up
pretty regularly, while the 20080828 build did not, though I don't
know what changed between the builds.
The kernel oops appeared everytime I booted the most recent build that
was posted.

XO: Not so good so far

[Tarus Balog]

On Oct 8, 2008, at 10:49 PM, Christopher Desjardins wrote:
> I also got that kernel failure.  I'm using a 2 GB SD Card.  Also my  
> fonts are enormous

+1 on big fonts. I could never get System -> Appearance to ever come  
up to try and change them. My 15 minute load starts out at 8 and  
steadily climbs, with "loop3" being the culprit, whatever that is.

-T

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XO: Not so good so far

[Adrian Mandy]

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Tarus Balog  wrote:
> Gang:
>
> I'm curious how everyone else is getting on. I followed the FAQ:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/
> Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card
>
> and was able to get the XO to boot into Fedora (cute hotdog). But then I
> get a kernel warning on the Desktop:
>
> http://www.opennms.org/XO/XO-KernelFail.jpg
>
> Looking through /var/log/messages I don't see anything real useful - no
> panics or errors that stand out. The load is very high, with a 15 minute
> load average near 8.
>
> I was curious if anyone else had managed to get things going a bit better,
> and if I needed to be using a different image, etc.

I was having similar issues. I added the persistent overlay and a swap
partition and that helped a lot. It would lock up before and now it is
slightly more usable. When I run top it reports about 85% idle on the cpu.
The tips here
http://katzj.livejournal.com/440444.html
helped but didn't quite work I had to look here
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Errors_and_Solutions
to get it all working.

I'm going to try launching firefox now!

XO: Not so good so far

[Josh Bressers]

> I was having similar issues. I added the persistent overlay and a swap
> partition and that helped a lot. It would lock up before and now it is
> slightly more usable. When I run top it reports about 85% idle on the
> cpu. The tips here
> http://katzj.livejournal.com/440444.html
> helped but didn't quite work I had to look here
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Errors_and_Solutions
> to get it all working.

I admit, using the SD card for swap scares me a bit.  There are a finite number of
writes available on those cards, and if you're hitting the swap hard, it's going
to wear the card out.
> From the small amount of testing I've done up to this point, I question if Gnome

is going to be usable.  It eats up most of the RAM, leaving no space for
anything else (like Firefox, which is also a pig).

I put together an XFCE spin last night to give that a try.  it works much
better, which is no doubt expected.

So the question for the Fedora folks heading this up, is what are the expectations
here?  Does this HAVE to run Gnome, or is something like XFCE acceptable?

Is the goal to run a custom spin, or to use one of the existing live images?

XO: Not so good so far

[Jeremy Katz]

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 07:29 -0400, Josh Bressers wrote:
> > I was having similar issues. I added the persistent overlay and a swap
> > partition and that helped a lot. It would lock up before and now it is
> > slightly more usable. When I run top it reports about 85% idle on the
> > cpu. The tips here
> > http://katzj.livejournal.com/440444.html
> > helped but didn't quite work I had to look here
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Errors_and_Solutions
> > to get it all working.
>
> I admit, using the SD card for swap scares me a bit.  There are a finite number of
> writes available on those cards, and if you're hitting the swap hard, it's going
> to wear the card out.

Yes, I'm not convinced it's something that we want to recommend as a
general thing either.  But that doesn't make it a non-useful data point
in testing
> > From the small amount of testing I've done up to this point, I question if Gnome
>
> is going to be usable.  It eats up most of the RAM, leaving no space for
> anything else (like Firefox, which is also a pig).
>
> I put together an XFCE spin last night to give that a try.  it works much
> better, which is no doubt expected.
>
> So the question for the Fedora folks heading this up, is what are the expectations
> here?  Does this HAVE to run Gnome, or is something like XFCE acceptable?
>
> Is the goal to run a custom spin, or to use one of the existing live images?

There are really two goals
1) To be able to give an option for people (especially G1G1 users) an
option for a more "traditional" computing experience
2) To do so using a stock Fedora live image

The fact that right now it's a custom image is largely a fluke of me not
having committed something I thought I did.  Hopefully as the snapshots
start up, we can switch over to the stock live images (although there's
one little interim hack I probably need to land).  But there is an XFCE
live image, so that's not entirely out of the question as the
recommendation; that said, GNOME vs XFCE doesn't seem to be the biggest
problem we're bumping up against at the moment

Jeremy

XO: Not so good so far

[Bryan Kearney]

Adrian Mandy wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Tarus Balog <[e-mail] 
> > wrote:
> Gang:
>
> I'm curious how everyone else is getting on. I followed the FAQ:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora10_On_XO#Installing_your_SD_card
>
> and was able to get the XO to boot into Fedora (cute hotdog). But
> then I get a kernel warning on the Desktop:
>
> http://www.opennms.org/XO/XO-KernelFail.jpg
>
> Looking through /var/log/messages I don't see anything real useful -
> no panics or errors that stand out. The load is very high, with a 15
> minute load average near 8.
>
> I was curious if anyone else had managed to get things going a bit
> better, and if I needed to be using a different image, etc.
>
>
> I was having similar issues. I added the persistent overlay and a swap 
> partition and that helped a lot. It would lock up before and now it is 
> slightly more usable. When I run top it reports about 85% idle on the 
> cpu. The tips here
> http://katzj.livejournal.com/440444.html
> helped but didn't quite work I had to look here
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#Errors_and_Solutions
> to get it all working.
>
> I'm going to try launching firefox now!

I added a 512M overlay, and it sped things up. I am seeing (based on 
eyeball and tzclock)

20 seconds to hotdog.
3 min 20 seconds to login page

As I mentioned in other emails
- I get the kernel panic
- I do get the occasional lockups
- I had to change my default font size from 201dpi to 96 dpi.
- I still see the invalid iomem size comment.

Qustion.. how do I boot to single user mode? I dont see the grub screen 
to play with

-- bk

XO: Not so good so far

[Jeremy Katz]

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 08:15 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Qustion.. how do I boot to single user mode? I dont see the grub screen 
> to play with

There isn't a grub screen. -- the XO boots using OpenFirmware, not a
traditional PC BIOS  You have to either drop to open firmware at boot or
(probably easier) edit the boot/olpc.fth on the SD card to add your
kernel arguments.

Jeremy

XO: Not so good so far

[Blake St. Claire]

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog  wrote:
> Gang:
>
> I'm curious how everyone else is getting on.

19 hours and 36 minutes until I get my devkey.

While I'm waiting I'm trying to install the live image onto my SD
card. All I've got around here are Some Linux Except Supported ;-) and
when I ran the livecd-iso-to-disk.sh I got this:
...
Copying live image to USB stick
Updating boot config file
sed: can't read /media/usbdev.euzIBT/syslinux/isolinux.cfg.cfg: No
such file or directory
Setting up /boot/olpc.fth file
Installing boot loader
syslinux: failed to create ldlinux.sys
USB stickset up as live image!

Can't tell if either of those is an issue. If it turns out it is will
have to set up a Fedora box or go over to a friend's house and use his
-- probably the latter as it'll be faster.

I'm scheduled to be on IRC tonight, but have a conflict and since I
don't have my XO installed yet, so will probably miss tonight.

/Blake

XO: Not so good so far

[David Nalley]

> sed: can't read /media/usbdev.euzIBT/syslinux/isolinux.cfg.cfg: No
> such file or directory

That's happened for me as well - I was going to complain about it and
forgot.. It didn't seem to matter though, the SD card still booted
properly.

XO: Not so good so far

[Christopher David Desjardins]

Blake -
I had those warnings too and had no problem booting fedora.  Plug in the 
usb cable, hit power, and you should be ready to roll.  Oh and wait 5 - 
10 minutes for GNOME to come up.
C

Blake St. Claire wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Tarus Balog  wrote:
> > Gang:
> >
> > I'm curious how everyone else is getting on.
>
> 19 hours and 36 minutes until I get my devkey.
>
> While I'm waiting I'm trying to install the live image onto my SD
> card. All I've got around here are Some Linux Except Supported ;-) and
> when I ran the livecd-iso-to-disk.sh I got this:
> ...
> Copying live image to USB stick
> Updating boot config file
> sed: can't read /media/usbdev.euzIBT/syslinux/isolinux.cfg.cfg: No
> such file or directory
> Setting up /boot/olpc.fth file
> Installing boot loader
> syslinux: failed to create ldlinux.sys
> USB stickset up as live image!
>
> Can't tell if either of those is an issue. If it turns out it is will
> have to set up a Fedora box or go over to a friend's house and use his
> -- probably the latter as it'll be faster.
>
> I'm scheduled to be on IRC tonight, but have a conflict and since I
> don't have my XO installed yet, so will probably miss tonight.
>
> /Blake

XO: Not so good so far

[Bryan Kearney]

Christopher David Desjardins wrote:
> Blake -
> I had those warnings too and had no problem booting fedora.  Plug in the 
> usb cable, hit power, and you should be ready to roll.  Oh and wait 5 - 
> 10 minutes for GNOME to come up.

Interesting... are putting the SD card in a USB reader into the side? 
Or... are you putting the SD card directly into the monitor (little 
slot, bottom right of the screen)?

-- bk

XO: Not so good so far

[Blake St. Claire]

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Christopher David Desjardins
 wrote:
> Blake -
> I had those warnings too and had no problem booting fedora.  Plug in the usb
> cable, hit power, and you should be ready to roll.  Oh and wait 5 - 10
> minutes for GNOME to come up.

Maybe I'm missing something. Is there a reason why I wouldn't put the
SD card in the SD slot instead of leaving it in the USB dongle?

Good to know those warning/errors aren't important -- thanks.

--

/Blake

XO: Not so good so far

[Tarus Balog]

On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Blake St. Claire wrote:
> 19 hours and 36 minutes until I get my devkey.

How are you getting your DevKey?

I installed the 767 firmware, then used software update to get the new  
activities.

I launched browse and there was a link on the default home page. I  
clicked on it and had a dev key *immediately*. I was really surprised  
at how quick it was.

-T

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The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    [phone]
Email: [e-mail]                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
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XO: Not so good so far

[David Nalley]

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Tarus Balog  wrote:
> On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Blake St. Claire wrote:
> > 19 hours and 36 minutes until I get my devkey.
>
> How are you getting your DevKey?
>
> I installed the 767 firmware, then used software update to get the new
> activities.
>
> I launched browse and there was a link on the default home page. I clicked
> on it and had a dev key *immediately*. I was really surprised at how quick
> it was.
>
> -T

So that's how it works for the famous and powerful. :)
Most of the time you have to request a devkey and wait 24 hours -
supposedly to prevent people from stealing a unit and being able to
run unsigned code on it.

XO: Not so good so far

[Tarus Balog]

On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:40 PM, David Nalley wrote:
> So that's how it works for the famous and powerful. :)

Where? (grin)
> Most of the time you have to request a devkey and wait 24 hours -
> supposedly to prevent people from stealing a unit and being able to
> run unsigned code on it.

That's what I thought. Now it took me about six hours to get the  
firmware upgraded and the new activities installed on the crappy  
Internet connection at the hotel, so maybe it thought I'd paid my dues.

I clicked on the link and it came up a few seconds later with "Your  
new development key is ready!". There was a "wget" line that I just  
pasted into terminal and it Just Worked(tm) when I inserted the USB  
stick. I stayed up until like 2am to make sure I got the process  
started and was surprised that I didn't have to wait.

Weird.

-T

_______________________________________________________________________
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The OpenNMS Group, Inc.                     Fax:    [phone]
Email: [e-mail]                    URL: http://www.opennms.org
PGP Key Fingerprint: 8945 8521 9771 FEC9 5481  512B FECA 11D2 FD82 B45C

XO: Not so good so far

[Ty]

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 15:03 -0400, Tarus Balog wrote:
> > Most of the time you have to request a devkey and wait 24 hours -
> > supposedly to prevent people from stealing a unit and being able to
> > run unsigned code on it.
>
> That's what I thought. Now it took me about six hours to get the  
> firmware upgraded and the new activities installed on the crappy  
> Internet connection at the hotel, so maybe it thought I'd paid my
> dues.
>
> I clicked on the link and it came up a few seconds later with "Your  
> new development key is ready!". There was a "wget" line that I just  
> pasted into terminal and it Just Worked(tm) when I inserted the USB  
> stick. I stayed up until like 2am to make sure I got the process  
> started and was surprised that I didn't have to wait.
>
> Weird.

since these machines were returned, maybe they forgot to reset the
developer key before re-shipping.
> -T

XO: Not so good so far

[Blake St. Claire]

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Tarus Balog  wrote:
> On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Blake St. Claire wrote:
> > 19 hours and 36 minutes until I get my devkey.
>
> How are you getting your DevKey?
>
> I installed the 767 firmware, then used software update to get the new
> activities.

Ditto here.
> I launched browse and there was a link on the default home page.

I did not notice that until now. I was (blindly) following the
instructions on the wiki and went to file:///home/.devkey.html, which
went to laptop.org.
> I clicked
> on it and had a dev key *immediately*. I was really surprised at how quick
> it was.

I just tried that now and got an 'Address Not Found' for activation.laptop.org.

/Blake

[Denis Leroy]

Antonio M wrote:
> update-desktop-database
> Could not parse file
> '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
> directory

Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source 
third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF 
files just fine too.

[Jesse Keating]

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 00:15 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
> Antonio M wrote:
> > update-desktop-database
> > Could not parse file
> > '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
> > directory
>
> Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source 
> third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF 
> files just fine too.

Why should that prevent the rest of his menu items from showing up?

[Antonio M]

2008/10/9 Jesse Keating :
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 00:15 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
> > Antonio M wrote:
> > > update-desktop-database
> > > Could not parse file
> > > '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
> > > directory
> >
> > Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source
> > third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF
> > files just fine too.
>
> Why should that prevent the rest of his menu items from showing up?
>
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1) I don't think to have waisted anybody's time, and I don't think
Jesus is involved in IT!!! :-)
2) the point is: on another two systems I am running same software
(Adobe Reader) menus are fine
3) a curiosity, how do I recover from having a dead symlink in
update-desktop-database???
4) Of course, I can add manually the item but this doesn't help to
check testing F10

Tnx all

[Antonio M]

2008/10/9 Antonio M :
> 2008/10/9 Jesse Keating :
> > On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 00:15 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
> > > Antonio M wrote:
> > > > update-desktop-database
> > > > Could not parse file
> > > > '/usr/share/applications/kde/AdobeReader.desktop': No such file or
> > > > directory
> > >
> > > Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source
> > > third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF
> > > files just fine too.
> >
> > Why should that prevent the rest of his menu items from showing up?
> >
> > --
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> I don't think to have waisted anybody's time, and I don't think
>
> Jesus is involved in IT!!! :-)
> 2) the point is: on another two systems I am running same software
> (Adobe Reader) menus are fine
> 3) a curiosity, how do I recover from having a dead symlink in
> update-desktop-database???
> 4) Of course, I can add manually the item but this doesn't help to
> check testing F10
> Tnx all
>
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag

for my understanding I run same commands on a another F10 working
system (that has Adbobe Reader installed....
rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
[antonio@acerF10 ~]$ rpm -V gimp
[antonio@acerF10 ~]$
 and then as root
[root@acerF10 antonio]# update-desktop-database
[root@acerF10 antonio]#

someone can explain why I has a broken symlink on one system and
everything is o.k. on another system??
I have to check whether on the affected system (where also scribus
menu is missing while on the other system is present under
Application/Other) the newly created users are affected from same
problem (i.e. missing scribus menu) and from the fact that I cannot
add the Trashbin applet to the application bar (and the Trashbin
applet is missing from the applet list when I ricght click on the bar
and I get add to the panel.
I am confused, so also my explanation may be confused... :-)
Any idea???

[Jerry Amundson]

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Antonio M  wrote:
> for my understanding I run same commands on a another F10 working
> system (that has Adbobe Reader installed....
> rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
> gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
> [antonio@acerF10 ~]$ rpm -V gimp
> [antonio@acerF10 ~]$
>  and then as root
> [root@acerF10 antonio]# update-desktop-database
> [root@acerF10 antonio]#
>
> someone can explain why I has a broken symlink on one system and
> everything is o.k. on another system??
> I have to check whether on the affected system (where also scribus
> menu is missing while on the other system is present under
> Application/Other) the newly created users are affected from same
> problem (i.e. missing scribus menu) and from the fact that I cannot
> add the Trashbin applet to the application bar (and the Trashbin
> applet is missing from the applet list when I ricght click on the bar
> and I get add to the panel.
> I am confused, so also my explanation may be confused... :-)
> Any idea???

By chance, did todays gimp/gnome updates clean this up?

jerry

[Antonio M]

2008/10/10 Jerry Amundson :
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Antonio M  wrote:
> > for my understanding I run same commands on a another F10 working
> > system (that has Adbobe Reader installed....
> > rpm -qf /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
> > gimp-2.6.0-2.fc10.i386
> > [antonio@acerF10 ~]$ rpm -V gimp
> > [antonio@acerF10 ~]$
> >  and then as root
> > [root@acerF10 antonio]# update-desktop-database
> > [root@acerF10 antonio]#
> >
> > someone can explain why I has a broken symlink on one system and
> > everything is o.k. on another system??
> > I have to check whether on the affected system (where also scribus
> > menu is missing while on the other system is present under
> > Application/Other) the newly created users are affected from same
> > problem (i.e. missing scribus menu) and from the fact that I cannot
> > add the Trashbin applet to the application bar (and the Trashbin
> > applet is missing from the applet list when I ricght click on the bar
> > and I get add to the panel.
> > I am confused, so also my explanation may be confused... :-)
> > Any idea???
>
> By chance, did todays gimp/gnome updates clean this up?
> jerry
>
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unfortunately no...but I think that something is wrong in this
particular user (Myself) as my son's menu on same machine are o.k for
the Gimp (not for Scribus).
And unfortunately I cannot add the Trashbin to the application bar as
I could do on other two machines...I do not know where to dig.
Lost menus, losing myself?? :-)

Tnx anyway

[Jesse Keating]

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 00:15 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
> Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source 
> third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF 
> files just fine too.

Also, lets watch the attitude a bit here.  We're all trying to help each
other, lets be nice.

[Denis Leroy]

Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 00:15 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
> > Jesus. You have a dead symlink in there, due to some closed-source 
> > third-party RPM. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. Evince handles PDF 
> > files just fine too.
>
> Also, lets watch the attitude a bit here.  We're all trying to help each
> other, lets be nice.

Got carried away here, sorry.

[Petrus de Calguarium]

Antonio M wrote:
> there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....

That's supposed to be the heralded improvement!!? They still haven't managed to finally get the program to open in a single window.

[Fulko Hew]

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:12 PM, kwhiskerz  wrote:
> Antonio M wrote:
> > there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....
>
> That's supposed to be the heralded improvement!!? They still haven't
> managed to finally get the program to open in a single window.

Single window operation is only useful for those people with poor window
managers,
or those that don't understand the usefulnessof having multiple windows in
the first place  :-)

[Antonio M]

2008/10/7 Fulko Hew :
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:12 PM, kwhiskerz  wrote:
> > Antonio M wrote:
> > > there is no menu after installing Gimp 2.6....
> >
> > That's supposed to be the heralded improvement!!? They still haven't
> > managed to finally get the program to open in a single window.
>
> Single window operation is only useful for those people with poor window
> managers,
> or those that don't understand the usefulnessof having multiple windows in
> the first place  :-)
>
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I think that the entry for Gimp in menu was simply forgotten... ;-)