application for joining commops group

[Viorel Tabara]

Hi all, I'm just starting up with Fedora as a volunteer and one of the groups I 
would like to help out in is CommOps so I'm just "going by the book" ;) and

sending out this introductory email as noted on the CommOps group page along 
with the two required "pieces of identification":

   IRC nick: smkr
   TZ: Mountain Time

Being at a stage in my life where I have more free time in hand, volunteering 
for Fedora is just another opportunity I would like to use for giving back to a 
community that has made my cyber life at both work and home so enjoyable for 
the past 10 years. At the same time there is so much more fun stuff to learn 
about, I love the open source atmosphere so all in all I'm excited to start 
helping out with anything I can. There is no boring job for when it comes to 
hacking open source :)

I've been a sysadmin all my life so while I'm quite comfortable taking on any 
work in that area, I can't consider myself a DevOps as my programming skills 
aren't at that level (unless someone else considers Bash a DevOps language 
because of its associative arrays, I don't though :) so what I'd like to get 
out of this experience is knowledge exchange on the dev side of things.  I get 
along fairly well with Ansible, although it may be better suited for the 
Infrastructure group (which I'm going to apply for as soon as I get past the 
"observation" stage). I'm no stranger to programming and can read Python, 
understand it and provide easy fixes by following the existing code structure, 
but that's where all ends.

Where I'd like to start in CommOps? Anything that requires to get my hands 
dirty as there is no better way to learn. From reading the CommOps wiki page I 
would say that any of the areas would work with the exception of on-boarding 
but at this point I'm surely in the need of your guidance...

Thanks for providing this opportunity and if I missed anything let me know.

-- 
Viorel

[Corey Sheldon]

Welcome to the mailing list Viorel,

Several of us are / were like you on the Sysadmin part of things.  Feel
free to start hanging out in irc channels to get familiar with the workflow
and  what you may like / or like to force thy skills to better on.


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On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Viorel Tabara <viorel.tabara(a)infrabit.net&gt;
wrote:

>  Hi all, I'm just starting up with Fedora as a volunteer and one
> of the
>  groups I
>  would like to help out in is CommOps so I'm just "going by the book" ;)
> and
>  sending out this introductory email as noted on the CommOps group page
>  along
>  with the two required "pieces of identification":
>
>     IRC nick: smkr
>     TZ: Mountain Time
>
>  Being at a stage in my life where I have more free time in hand,
>  volunteering
>  for Fedora is just another opportunity I would like to use for giving back
>  to a
>  community that has made my cyber life at both work and home so enjoyable
>  for
>  the past 10 years. At the same time there is so much more fun stuff to
>  learn
>  about, I love the open source atmosphere so all in all I'm excited to start
>  helping out with anything I can. There is no boring job for when it comes
>  to
>  hacking open source :)
>
>  I've been a sysadmin all my life so while I'm quite comfortable taking on
>  any
>  work in that area, I can't consider myself a DevOps as my programming
>  skills
>  aren't at that level (unless someone else considers Bash a DevOps language
>  because of its associative arrays, I don't though :) so what I'd like to
>  get
>  out of this experience is knowledge exchange on the dev side of things.  I
>  get
>  along fairly well with Ansible, although it may be better suited for the
>  Infrastructure group (which I'm going to apply for as soon as I get past
>  the
>  "observation" stage). I'm no stranger to programming and can read Python,
>  understand it and provide easy fixes by following the existing code
>  structure,
>  but that's where all ends.
>
>  Where I'd like to start in CommOps? Anything that requires to get my hands
>  dirty as there is no better way to learn. From reading the CommOps wiki
>  page I
>  would say that any of the areas would work with the exception of
>  on-boarding
>  but at this point I'm surely in the need of your guidance...
>
>  Thanks for providing this opportunity and if I missed anything let me know.
>
>  --
>  Viorel
>  _______________________________________________
>  commops mailing list
>  commops(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
>

[Viorel Tabara]

On Sun Feb 14 2016 16:13:57 GMT-0700 (MST) Corey Sheldon 
<sheldon.corey(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Welcome to the mailing list Viorel,
>  
>  Several of us are / were like you on the Sysadmin part of things.  Feel
>  free to start hanging out in irc channels to get familiar with the workflow
>  and  what you may like / or like to force thy skills to better on. 
Thanks Corey.

-- 
Viorel

[Keerthana Krishnan]

Hi Viorel,

Welcome to Commops, I hope you have fun! Feel free to ask us for anything
you need. Make sure to check out the trac page to find something that
catches your eye.

We're working on creating a new member join page here at Commops, so I
would like to ask for your help and feedback for the same, by replying with
anything and everything you'd like to see on such a page. I think you might
be able to give us another perspective.

Welcome! :D

On 15 February 2016 at 04:18, Viorel Tabara <viorel.tabara(a)infrabit.net&gt;
wrote:

>  Hi all, I'm just starting up with Fedora as a volunteer and one
> of the
>  groups I
>  would like to help out in is CommOps so I'm just "going by the book" ;)
> and
>  sending out this introductory email as noted on the CommOps group page
>  along
>  with the two required "pieces of identification":
>
>     IRC nick: smkr
>     TZ: Mountain Time
>
>  Being at a stage in my life where I have more free time in hand,
>  volunteering
>  for Fedora is just another opportunity I would like to use for giving back
>  to a
>  community that has made my cyber life at both work and home so enjoyable
>  for
>  the past 10 years. At the same time there is so much more fun stuff to
>  learn
>  about, I love the open source atmosphere so all in all I'm excited to start
>  helping out with anything I can. There is no boring job for when it comes
>  to
>  hacking open source :)
>
>  I've been a sysadmin all my life so while I'm quite comfortable taking on
>  any
>  work in that area, I can't consider myself a DevOps as my programming
>  skills
>  aren't at that level (unless someone else considers Bash a DevOps language
>  because of its associative arrays, I don't though :) so what I'd like to
>  get
>  out of this experience is knowledge exchange on the dev side of things.  I
>  get
>  along fairly well with Ansible, although it may be better suited for the
>  Infrastructure group (which I'm going to apply for as soon as I get past
>  the
>  "observation" stage). I'm no stranger to programming and can read Python,
>  understand it and provide easy fixes by following the existing code
>  structure,
>  but that's where all ends.
>
>  Where I'd like to start in CommOps? Anything that requires to get my hands
>  dirty as there is no better way to learn. From reading the CommOps wiki
>  page I
>  would say that any of the areas would work with the exception of
>  on-boarding
>  but at this point I'm surely in the need of your guidance...
>
>  Thanks for providing this opportunity and if I missed anything let me know.
>
>  --
>  Viorel
>  _______________________________________________
>  commops mailing list
>  commops(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
>  


-- 
Keerthana Krishnan
B.Tech Computer Science (2012-16)
Govt. Model Engineering College
Creative Director, Teezonic Studio
Email : keerthana(a)teezonic.com
IEEE CS Student Member
Blogger : https://cutencrazyindie.wordpress.com/

[Remy DeCausemaker]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Keerthana Krishnan <
contactkeerthana(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi Viorel,
>
>  Welcome to Commops, I hope you have fun! Feel free to ask us for anything
>  you need. Make sure to check out the trac page to find something that
>  catches your eye.
>
>  We're working on creating a new member join page here at Commops, so I
>  would like to ask for your help and feedback for the same, by replying with
>  anything and everything you'd like to see on such a page. I think you might
>  be able to give us another perspective.
>
>  Welcome! :D
>
>  On 15 February 2016 at 04:18, Viorel Tabara <viorel.tabara(a)infrabit.net&gt;
>  wrote:
>
> > Hi all, I'm just starting up with Fedora as a volunteer and one of the
> > groups I
> > would like to help out in is CommOps so I'm just "going by the book"
> ;)
> > and
> > sending out this introductory email as noted on the CommOps group page
> > along
> > with the two required "pieces of identification":
> >
> >    IRC nick: smkr
> >    TZ: Mountain Time
> >
> > Being at a stage in my life where I have more free time in hand,
> > volunteering
> > for Fedora is just another opportunity I would like to use for giving
> > back to a
> > community that has made my cyber life at both work and home so enjoyable
> > for
> > the past 10 years. At the same time there is so much more fun stuff to
> > learn
> > about, I love the open source atmosphere so all in all I'm excited to
> > start
> > helping out with anything I can. There is no boring job for when it comes
> > to
> > hacking open source :)
> >
> > I've been a sysadmin all my life so while I'm quite comfortable taking on
> > any
> > work in that area, I can't consider myself a DevOps as my programming
> > skills
> > aren't at that level (unless someone else considers Bash a DevOps language
> > because of its associative arrays, I don't though :) so what I'd like to
> > get
> > out of this experience is knowledge exchange on the dev side of things.
> > I get
> > along fairly well with Ansible, although it may be better suited for the
> > Infrastructure group (which I'm going to apply for as soon as I get past
> > the
> > "observation" stage). I'm no stranger to programming and can read
> Python,
> > understand it and provide easy fixes by following the existing code
> > structure,
> > but that's where all ends.
> >
> > Where I'd like to start in CommOps? Anything that requires to get my hands
> > dirty as there is no better way to learn. From reading the CommOps wiki
> > page I
> > would say that any of the areas would work with the exception of
> > on-boarding
> > but at this point I'm surely in the need of your guidance...
> >
> > Thanks for providing this opportunity and if I missed anything let me
> > know.
> >
> > --
> > Viorel
> > _______________________________________________
> > commops mailing list
> > commops(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >
>
>
>
>  --
>  Keerthana Krishnan
>  B.Tech Computer Science (2012-16)
>  Govt. Model Engineering College
>  Creative Director, Teezonic Studio
>  Email : keerthana(a)teezonic.com
>  IEEE CS Student Member
>  Blogger : https://cutencrazyindie.wordpress.com/
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  commops mailing list
>  commops(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
>
>  
Viroel,

Welcome! As Keekri said, we're happy to have you here, and are happy to
help connect you with our team, as well as others in Fedora that you may be
interested in.

If you are available, our team meets regularly in #fedora-meeting-2 on
Freenode Tuesdays at 17:00 UTC. In the meeting we discuss ongoing tasks and
tickets, as well as announcements and news to be included in the Community
Blog (CommBlog.)

Since you mentioned that you are interested in joining the infrastructure
team, here is a link to the latest presentation I just gave at Config
Management Camp with puiterwijk, Authentication Lead for Fedora-Infra:
https://github.com/decause/decks/blob/master/cfgmgmtcamp-fedoraopeninfra.pdf

Welcome aboard, and we hope to see you in #fedora-commops on Freenode in
the meantime.

Looking Forward,
--RemyD.

-- 
Remy DeCausemaker
Fedora Community Lead & Council
<decause(a)redhat.com&gt;
https://whatcanidoforfedora.org

[Justin W. Flory]

On 02/15/2016 01:14 PM, Remy DeCausemaker wrote:
>  Viroel,
>
>  Welcome! As Keekri said, we're happy to have you here, and are happy to
>  help connect you with our team, as well as others in Fedora that you may
>  be interested in.
>
>  If you are available, our team meets regularly in #fedora-meeting-2 on
>  Freenode Tuesdays at 17:00 UTC. In the meeting we discuss ongoing tasks
>  and tickets, as well as announcements and news to be included in the
>  Community Blog (CommBlog.)
>
>  Since you mentioned that you are interested in joining the
>  infrastructure team, here is a link to the latest presentation I just
>  gave at Config Management Camp with puiterwijk, Authentication Lead for
>  Fedora-Infra:
>  https://github.com/decause/decks/blob/master/cfgmgmtcamp-fedoraopeninfra.pdf
>
>  Welcome aboard, and we hope to see you in #fedora-commops on Freenode in
>  the meantime. 
Hello Viorel! Welcome to Fedora CommOps. Like the others have said, 
we're glad to have you aboard. :)

If you're looking at getting an idea of some of the things we're working 
on *right now*, this category on our Trac will give you an idea of 
things that are on our radar as "ASAP".

     https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/report/13

This next category gives a list of a few tasks that have been identified 
as short-term tasks (or in other words, things to be completed before 
the next release of Fedora). You can also flip through here and see if 
anything piques your interest.

     https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/report/11

Like Remy said, our meetings are on Tuesdays at 17:00 UTC in 
#fedora-meeting-2. If you are available, you are very welcome to attend 
and introduce yourself to the rest of the team!

Welcome aboard. :)

--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com

[Viorel Tabara]

On Mon Feb 15 2016 12:19:41 GMT-0700 (MST) Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com&gt; 
wrote:
>  If you're looking at getting an idea of some of the things
> we're working on 
>  *right now*, this category on our Trac will give you an idea of things that 
>  are on our radar as "ASAP".
>  
>      https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/report/13 
>  This next category gives a list of a few tasks that have been
> identified as 
>  short-term tasks (or in other words, things to be completed before the next 
>  release of Fedora). You can also flip through here and see if anything piques 
>  your interest.
>  
>      https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/report/11 
Nice, I've gone through them and I'll get ready to jump into #fedora-commops.  
You'll hear my screams for help shortly ;)

-- 
Viorel

[Viorel Tabara]

On Mon Feb 15 2016 11:14:34 GMT-0700 (MST) Remy DeCausemaker 
<decause(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  If you are available, our team meets regularly in #fedora-meeting-2
> on
>  Freenode Tuesdays at 17:00 UTC. 
Hi Remy, yes I'm aware of the meeting, problem is the time falls right during 
my work hours. I may be able to negotiate some time off later down the road.

>  In the meeting we discuss ongoing tasks and tickets, as well as
> announcements 
>  and news to be included in the Community Blog (CommBlog.) 
I'll ask the friendly Meetbot for logs and will seek clarifications from the 
group if needed.

>  Since you mentioned that you are interested in joining the
> infrastructure
>  team, here is a link to the latest presentation I just gave at Config
>  Management Camp with puiterwijk, Authentication Lead for Fedora-Infra:
>  https://github.com/decause/decks/blob/master/cfgmgmtcamp-fedoraopeninfra.pdf 
Thanks! I have to confess that the Fedora repo was a *tremendous* help in 
getting me started with Ansible. I couldn't quite just clone and use it, but 
what I've built at the workplace is damn close to it ;)

-- 
Viorel

[Viorel Tabara]

On 02/15/2016 06:43 AM, Keerthana Krishnan wrote:
>  We're working on creating a new member join page here at Commops,
> so I
>  would like to ask for your help and feedback for the same, by replying with
>  anything and everything you'd like to see on such a page. I think you might
>  be able to give us another perspective. 
Hi Keerthana, I'll try to provide feedback while my journey to CommOps is still 
fresh so I can backtrack my steps.

As I mentioned in the self-introduction email I did start with the 
Infrastructure wiki page that sent me to setting up the FAS profile (and that 
proved to be a key point in finding CommOps!) then went back to the Join main 
page in the wiki where I looked for other areas where I can contribute to. Once 
I was happy with the information I could gather from there I took a closer look 
at my FAS home page and noticed the Groups List option in the side menu.  
Selecting to view all groups displayed a much longer list than the one in the 
wiki and wanting to find out what groups I can join I looked for those with an 
Apply button beside them. Opening up the CommOps group page I jumped to the 
wiki URL to find out what the group does.  The next question was "how do I 
join?" and that was clearly answered under "Rules for Application" (+1).

Having something like Ralph's:

   http://whatcanidoforfedora.org/

feels easier to navigate to me although just as the wiki it doesn't list all 
the groups from FAS.

Also as it turned out the CommOps wiki page isn't referenced on Fedora Join, 
the only way I came across it was through the FAS home page.

Lastly, the CommOps wiki page has no instructions on how to join the group. In 
that respect I do like how the Docs project built the walk-me-through flow:

   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project 

although the instructions from FAS group page got me here in no time :)

Hope you'll find this useful.

-- 
Viorel

[Justin W. Flory]

Hey Viorel,

On 02/15/2016 11:45 PM, Viorel Tabara wrote:
>  Also as it turned out the CommOps wiki page isn't referenced on
> Fedora Join,
>  the only way I came across it was through the FAS home page.
>
>  Lastly, the CommOps wiki page has no instructions on how to join the group. In
>  that respect I do like how the Docs project built the walk-me-through flow:
>
>      https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project
>
>  although the instructions from FAS group page got me here in no time :)
>
>  Hope you'll find this useful. 
This is actually excellent information. We are working towards forming 
our own official Join process and to make it more publicly clear about 
what someone has to do to "officially" become a member of CommOps (this 
was actually a topic in our meeting today).

I'll make a mental note to check out how the Docs team has their Join 
process set up once we get to drafting our own page.

>  Hi Remy, yes I'm aware of the meeting, problem is the time falls
> right during
>  my work hours. I may be able to negotiate some time off later down the road.
>
>  I'll ask the friendly Meetbot for logs and will seek clarifications from the
>  group if needed. 
No worries about being unable to make the meeting times – if you read 
the meeting logs and check in frequently on the mailing list, this 
should suffice to keep you up to date and current about what happens at 
meetings.

>  Nice, I've gone through them and I'll get ready to jump into
> #fedora-commops.
>  You'll hear my screams for help shortly 
Looking forward to it, and looking forward to working with you here in 
CommOps!

>  Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. It surely feels good. 
As always, if you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask. :)

--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com

[Viorel Tabara]

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. It surely feels good.

-- 
Viorel