council October 2015

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Re: [Ambassadors] FUDCon APAC 2016 proposal
by Matthew Miller 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:43:59AM +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > Maybe we need to seriously reconsider the idea of having three premier > events and have just one contributor event, Flock, once a year. This > ought to also get rid of all of the "you have your FUDCon, why do you > want to hog funds from our Flock" nonsense that seems to get spewed > around in different ways. Let's avoid calling what other people in the project say "nonsense" or "spew". I mean in general, but also in this particular case I think that's a reasonable view if you think of Flock as "better FUDCon" rather than a whole different thing. I'm a strong advocate of it being a different thing, but let's be respectful of those with a different view (even — or especially — if we want to convince them otherwise). That said.... > If we do this however, we need to also rethink how we do user outreach. I do think it's worth considering all together in this way, yes. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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where's matthew today?
by Matthew Miller 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

In training! All day today and tomorrow, in fact. I expect to be mostly offline. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Re: [council] #6: Please suspend Reindl Harald from devel@fedora mailing list
by fedora-badges 13 Oct '15

13 Oct '15

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Re: [council] #6: Please suspend Reindl Harald from devel@fedora mailing list
by fedora-badges 13 Oct '15

13 Oct '15

#6: Please suspend Reindl Harald from devel@fedora mailing list ---------------------+----------------------- Reporter: rhughes | Owner: Status: closed | Priority: normal Component: General | Resolution: declined Keywords: | ---------------------+----------------------- Comment (by hguemar): It's better than nothing but that does not solve the issue that fedora- devel is regarded as an hostile list. The goal is not to punish an individual but stop punishing our current and wannabe contributors. At the very least, I kindly request the council to look ways to solve the bigger problem: Fedora is more frequently seen as an hostile community. That's also a prerequisite to the diversity goal. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/6#comment:24> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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Re: [council] #6: Please suspend Reindl Harald from devel@fedora mailing list
by fedora-badges 13 Oct '15

13 Oct '15

#6: Please suspend Reindl Harald from devel@fedora mailing list ---------------------+----------------------- Reporter: rhughes | Owner: Status: closed | Priority: normal Component: General | Resolution: declined Keywords: | ---------------------+----------------------- Changes (by jwboyer): * resolution: => declined * status: reopened => closed Comment: Kevin's suggested actions are exactly what we should do from here. In case it wasn't clear, my comment #19 was a -1. Given the Council operates on consensus and given that I have provided my reasoning, the Council cannot approve a ban at this time. Should someone present sufficient information to change my vote, they can reopen this ticket. Until then, there is no reason to continue the back and forth here. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/6#comment:23> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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Re: [council] #6: Please suspend Reindl Harald from devel@fedora mailing list
by fedora-badges 13 Oct '15

13 Oct '15

#6: Please suspend Reindl Harald from devel@fedora mailing list ----------------------+--------------------- Reporter: rhughes | Owner: Status: reopened | Priority: normal Component: General | Resolution: Keywords: | ----------------------+--------------------- Comment (by kevin): Replying to [comment:21 hguemar]: > I reopened the ticket as a follow-up of the board action who decided to have the CWG discuss with Harald. > As he never really stopped continuously ranting, and that people keep regularly quoting him as one of the reason they consider fedora devel list being unfriendly, hence the request. > > Something I read just this week on another mailing list: > "Why hasn't Reindl been kicked out of Fedora yet? he's clearly violated the > mailing list policy on a number of occasions, but he doesn't get banned." Yeah, I saw that post too, but can you point me to the "mailing list policy" ? AFAIK we just have a code of conduct. > And this is not the first time. > I'm all for forgiveness and conciliation but I came to think that the toxic environment he contributes to create is not worth the effort anymore. If anyone still believe that they can make him mind his tone, go ahead but it has to stop. > > And yes, I agree with Josh that active contributors should also lead by example. So, IMHO, banning him now without any specific precipitating event seems like a poor precident. I'm of course happy to do whatever the council decides if they decide to do something here, but failing that, could I ask folks to keep an eye out for posts that you feel are not following our code of conduct and mail devel-owner(a)lists.fedoraproject.org soon after you see them, and if those merit removal from the list they can be done then and not months later. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/6#comment:22> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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[council] #22: Objective Proposal: University Involvement
by fedora-badges 13 Oct '15

13 Oct '15

#22: Objective Proposal: University Involvement ----------------------+------------------- Reporter: sgallagh | Owner: Status: new | Priority: normal Component: General | Keywords: ----------------------+------------------- I alluded to this during the Council meeting on Monday, so I'm going to attempt to turn this into a formal proposal. == Objective: University Involvement == === Overview === Increase Fedora's exposure in university environments, particularly engineering universities. === Expected Impact === Increased user base with a specific focus on future contributors. === Timeframe === For maximum effect, if we elect to work towards this Objective, we should kick it into gear at the beginning of the summer with the intent of having events planned during the 2015-2016 school year. === Aspects === * Coordinate marketing, ambassador and outreach groups to focus on university needs * Work with universities to provide install-fests during student orientation periods * Work with universities to regularly run Fedora-focused hackfests * Work with university IT departments to co-maintain one or more Fedora computer labs (and help them upgrade them during breaks) * Establish work-study, co-op and for-credit programs at universities === Metrics === * Increased contributions from university programs * Increased bug reports and feature requests * Increased mind-share among potential contributors (not easily measured) === Additional Notes === Some prototypes of this have been performed at Brno universities over the last few years, with very positive results. We should coordinate with the contributors involved in those efforts and learn from their successes and failures. There is also a University Outreach program run by Red Hat's "Open Source and Standards" department which was involved in the RIT partnership from which we eventually acquired Remy DeCausemaker. I assume he will have plenty to add to this discussion as well as contacts in the university world. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/22> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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Re: [council] #6: Please suspend Reindl Harald from devel@fedora mailing list
by fedora-badges 11 Oct '15

11 Oct '15

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Re: [council] #6: Please suspend Reindl Harald from devel@fedora mailing list
by fedora-badges 11 Oct '15

11 Oct '15

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Re: [council] #6: Please suspend Reindl Harald from devel@fedora mailing list
by fedora-badges 11 Oct '15

11 Oct '15

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