Hi Council,
As far as I'm aware, there are four Fedora Working Groups (Workstation, Server, IoT, CoreOS), each of which is responsible for a Fedora Edition. These have their home pages on the wiki [1, 2, 3, 4]. However, these pages don't seem to be advertised anywhere, and I'd like to try and increase their exposure, so that people can find the WGs more easily.
One possibility here would be to add the WGs to the list of subprojects [5]. However, it isn't clear to me whether a WG is a subproject or not. Would it be OK to add the WGs to the list of subprojects?
Thanks,
Allan -- [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InternetOfThings [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_CoreOS [5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Subprojects
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:32:13AM +0000, Allan Day wrote:
As far as I'm aware, there are four Fedora Working Groups (Workstation, Server, IoT, CoreOS), each of which is responsible for a Fedora Edition. These have their home pages on the wiki [1, 2, 3, 4]. However, these pages don't seem to be advertised anywhere, and I'd like to try and increase their exposure, so that people can find the WGs more easily.
One possibility here would be to add the WGs to the list of subprojects [5]. However, it isn't clear to me whether a WG is a subproject or not. Would it be OK to add the WGs to the list of subprojects?
The short answer is: yes, that'd be good.
The long answer is: at our Council meeting last year we agreed to simplify the previous terminology of SIG, WG, Subproject, Team, Committee... to just "all of these things are Teams" (and you can use whatever label you like better if yo prefer to still be a WG or SIG). As part of this, we intended to replace that page with
* https://teams.fedoraproject.org/discover/search?order_by=-total_activity_las...
which has the advantage of being automatic and showing activity -- a big problem with the wiki is that not only do new things not get added but things which have gone dormant are still listed (for example, "Fedora Videos" is not active).
Unfortunately, we hit some snags with https://teams.fedoraproject.org/ and it's not clear that it's really the best path forward. Candidly, once we got to that point, then the whole project of "we should fix this project communication issue" kind of slipped into limbo.
I still do want to get that worked out, but we just haven't gotten to it. So your help in updating that wiki page is definitely appreciated.
Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote: ...
One possibility here would be to add the WGs to the list of subprojects [5]. However, it isn't clear to me whether a WG is a subproject or not. Would it be OK to add the WGs to the list of subprojects?
The short answer is: yes, that'd be good.
OK, done [1]. It would be nice to have them added to the drop down too, but I doubt I can do that.
... we intended to replace that page with
which has the advantage of being automatic and showing activity -- a big problem with the wiki is that not only do new things not get added but things which have gone dormant are still listed (for example, "Fedora Videos" is not active).
It's good to have a static "map" as well as something that's activity based, in my opinion...
... Candidly, once we got to that point, then the whole project of "we should fix this project communication issue" kind of slipped into limbo.
I have to say that, as someone who has worked on updating project documentation in the past, it's hard to know how to contribute in this space. Having some signposting for docs contributors would help.
Thanks for your help,
Allan
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:08:28PM +0000, Allan Day wrote:
It's good to have a static "map" as well as something that's activity based, in my opinion...
I agree; we've just had a chronic problem with such static maps getting out of date and making the problem _worse_. We talked about this at our meeting and have a plan we think will help -- details to come.
I have to say that, as someone who has worked on updating project documentation in the past, it's hard to know how to contribute in this space. Having some signposting for docs contributors would help.
In general, we want to move actively maintained, user- and contributor-facing docs away from the wiki (which is better as an active workspace) and into docs.fedoraproject.org. See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-docs/contributing/ for a getting-started guide there.
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