Re: Flock (was: [Free-RTC Discuss] Coronavirus: emergency RTC solutions for conferences/speakers)
Hi all,
On the FreeRTC discuss list[1], I started a thread[2] in January about moving conferences online (this email is CC to the existing thread, feel free to reply on both lists). This could be relevant for Fedora Flock[3] under Coronavirus.
There is an assumption that people simply try to do what they normally do but using a live conferencing tool (e.g. Jitsi Meet, Zoom, Hangouts).
It is not the only way.
Other alternatives may be better: for example, pre-recording each talk and then running the Q&A section live.
There are many more hacks and permutations that can be considered. It is not just a choice of tool. Please consider sharing ideas on /FreeRTC discuss/
We have a lot of people from across the RTC landscape there who might chip in with ideas or even volunteer to help. 2020 could actually be an opportunity for some people to gatecrash the conferences we've never visited before.
Regards,
Daniel
1. https://lists.freertc.org/mailman/listinfo 2. https://lists.freertc.org/pipermail/discuss/2020-January/000036.html 3. https://flocktofedora.org/
Hi all.
What should be done with Flock; online or move the dates, should be based mostly on what's the biggest value of the conference.
You have as example LibrePlanet, who hosted their conference in March completely online since the value of the conference was the content, and you have LGM who just decided to push the conference to 2021 (same location) since the biggest value of the conference was the gathering itself.
El mié., 1 abr. 2020 a las 15:16, Daniel Pocock (daniel@pocock.pro) escribió:
Hi all,
On the FreeRTC discuss list[1], I started a thread[2] in January about moving conferences online (this email is CC to the existing thread, feel free to reply on both lists). This could be relevant for Fedora Flock[3] under Coronavirus.
There is an assumption that people simply try to do what they normally do but using a live conferencing tool (e.g. Jitsi Meet, Zoom, Hangouts).
It is not the only way.
Other alternatives may be better: for example, pre-recording each talk and then running the Q&A section live.
There are many more hacks and permutations that can be considered. It is not just a choice of tool. Please consider sharing ideas on /FreeRTC discuss/
We have a lot of people from across the RTC landscape there who might chip in with ideas or even volunteer to help. 2020 could actually be an opportunity for some people to gatecrash the conferences we've never visited before.
Regards,
Daniel
- https://lists.freertc.org/mailman/listinfo
- https://lists.freertc.org/pipermail/discuss/2020-January/000036.html
- https://flocktofedora.org/
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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:24 PM María Leandro tatica@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi all.
What should be done with Flock; online or move the dates, should be based mostly on what's the biggest value of the conference.
You have as example LibrePlanet, who hosted their conference in March completely online since the value of the conference was the content, and you have LGM who just decided to push the conference to 2021 (same location) since the biggest value of the conference was the gathering itself.
I think that the value in Flock has always been the Hallway Track far more than the presentation content. (Not that we haven't had some great talks over the years, of course!) Flock provides an opportunity for people who generally interact with each other only via email, IRC or in rare cases video-chat. I think attempting to convert Flock to an online-only event would result in losing the most important part of the event. In which case, I don't think that would be budget well-spent.
Maybe we could convince our sponsors to let us put the budget aside to fund more people to attend in 2021?
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:47 PM Stephen Gallagher sgallagh@redhat.com wrote:
I think that the value in Flock has always been the Hallway Track far more than the presentation content.
Agreed, but...
Maybe we could convince our sponsors to let us put the budget aside to fund more people to attend in 2021?
...as of now, Flock is still on. Of course, there's no guarantee that we won't have to make a decision to cancel, but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. :-)
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:52 PM Ben Cotton bcotton@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:47 PM Stephen Gallagher sgallagh@redhat.com wrote:
I think that the value in Flock has always been the Hallway Track far more than the presentation content.
Agreed, but...
Maybe we could convince our sponsors to let us put the budget aside to fund more people to attend in 2021?
...as of now, Flock is still on. Of course, there's no guarantee that we won't have to make a decision to cancel, but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. :-)
I was unclear: I meant that my preference would be that if we cannot have an in-person conference, then it would be better to see if we could combine the two years' budgets and have a bigger-and-better Flock in 2021 than it would be to try to have a fully-online Flock.
On 01/04/2020 21:22, María Leandro wrote:
Hi all.
What should be done with Flock; online or move the dates, should be based mostly on what's the biggest value of the conference.
You have as example LibrePlanet, who hosted their conference in March completely online since the value of the conference was the content, and you have LGM who just decided to push the conference to 2021 (same location) since the biggest value of the conference was the gathering itself.
Personally, I don't want to advocate for either side
People are welcome to use the thread (both Fedora and FreeRTC discuss) to explore both possibilities as this will inevitably provide insights for many other organizations facing exactly the same problem in 2020.
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