Hello,
I often want to send people to Join Fedora, to, you know, Join
Fedora. :)
Couldn't agree more ;P
Héctor is re-doing
https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/, and that's
going to
be
nice, but I don't think it's ready and also I don't necessarily think
it's
the right path for everyone.
A nice initiative for someone who wants to join Fedora but they aren't
quite sure of what they want to do.
The task at hand is to conveniently onboard the ones who now know what they
want to do and hence, are joining.
I'm afraid it still has to be a docs page that we have to lead people to as
that's probably the best way to give insights on what the community is
about, how they achieve their purpose and how the new contributors can be
of assistance.
We would want to increase the visibility of
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join/ page over the ones at
wiki in search engines. We'd also want to change it to point towards Chat
fp.o. instead of the Telegram group.
Thanks and regards,
Akashdeep Dhar
t0xic0der(a)fedoraproject.org
akashdeep(a)redhat.com
On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 12:16 AM Ahmed Almeleh <
aalmeleh.whatever.0101(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings Project Leader, Sir,
>
> I do see your points and I agree that it's all a bit of a confusion as to
> where new users should be directed to.
>
> Actually, I myself joined only a month ago and I must admit the Fedora Join
> SIG did actually get me confused at first.
>
> The link to the Fedora Join SIG Docs:
>
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join/
>
> I think should be moved to :
>
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join-sig
>
> instead which may ease the confusion a bit.
>
>
>
> Finallly, I am all for having a user-focused "Join Fedora '' docs
> section on
docs.fedoraproject.org that is separate from the Join SIG docs.
>
> Maybe we could rename the Fedora Join SIG, "Fedora Mentors" as it is
> essentially what they do. When helping out new contributors. This will
> allow us to further avoid confusion.
>
> Also I felt a little nervous writing an email to the big project leader.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ahmed Almeleh
> He / Him / His
> Fedora QA
>
> On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 at 18:01, Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
>
>
I often want to send people to Join Fedora, to, you know, Join
Fedora. :)
> >
> > But I'm actually a little confused where to start.
> >
> >
>
Héctor is re-doing
https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/, and that's
going to
> > be
> > nice, but I don't think it's ready and also I don't necessarily
think
> it's
> > the right path for everyone.
> >
> > The first google hit that comes up is
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join,
> > but ... that's pretty old, not very well maintained, and doesn't really
> > represent current activities in the project very well. Plus, I do not
> want
> > to send new folks into the minefield that is the wiki right away.
> >
> > Also, "join.fedoraproject.org" currently links there.
> >
> >
> > Then, there's this:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join/
> >
> > which I _think_ is helpful, but I find somewhat confusing because it
> mixes
> > up the business of the Join SIG (that is, all the helpful people working
> to
> > provide a nice onboarding process) with the onboarding process itself.
> >
> > That page points to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Welcome, which...
> >
> > 1. Is frighteningly bare-bones.
> > 2. Has the "it's the wiki" problem again
> > 3. Points to Telegram — I don't have a problem with that as a platform to
> > bring people on, but as a service outside of project control,
> shouldn't
> > be where we start. (If people are on and comfortable with Telegram,
> > cool,
> > let's meet them there. But I don't want to give the impression that
> > signing up for telegram is a first step to
> > 4. Also IRC; that's a temporary problem until we get
> >
chat.fedoraproject.org
> > officially launched, though.
> >
> >
> > Anyway, in short, what's the link I should use for someone who wants to
> get
> > involved?
> >
> > And, leading question: should we have a user-focused "Join Fedora"
docs
> > section on
docs.fedoraproject.org that is separate from the Join SIG
> docs?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthew Miller
> > <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
> > Fedora Project Leader
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