Email addresses

[Mike McGrath]

At present we provide two @fedoraproject.org addresses to everyone who
has a fedoraproject account.

account@fp.o
and
first.last@fp.o

Notting pointed out that its only a matter of time before we have a
collision in first.last.  Should we just get rid of it?  I don't know
of anyone using it.

-Mike

[Rahul Sundaram]

Mike McGrath wrote:
> At present we provide two @fedoraproject.org addresses to everyone who
> has a fedoraproject account.
>
> account@fp.o
> and
> first.last@fp.o
>
> Notting pointed out that its only a matter of time before we have a
> collision in first.last.  Should we just get rid of it?  I don't know
> of anyone using it.

I saw it being used in atleast one guy's profile. Maybe a send a mail to 
everyone with the account that we are dropping off the first.last@fp.o 
alias would be more prudent just in case someone is using it actively. 
Moreover it would be useful if users in the account name can set aliases 
manually. When you sign up for a account, the fact that you get a email 
id automatically should be better documented in the account pages too.

Rahul

[Mike McGrath]

On 1/18/07, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:
> Mike McGrath wrote:
> I saw it being used in atleast one guy's profile. Maybe a send a mail to
> everyone with the account that we are dropping off the first.last@fp.o
> alias would be more prudent just in case someone is using it actively.
> Moreover it would be useful if users in the account name can set aliases
> manually. When you sign up for a account, the fact that you get a email
> id automatically should be better documented in the account pages too.
>
> Rahul

Unless anyone can think of any reason not to, I'll send a list to
announce, devel and extras stating that we'll be getting rid of
first.last.

-Mike

[Paulo Santos]

I didnt even knew that we could get those email addresses...

Paulo

On 1/18/07, Mike McGrath  wrote:
> On 1/18/07, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:
> > Mike McGrath wrote:
> > I saw it being used in atleast one guy's profile. Maybe a send a mail to
> > everyone with the account that we are dropping off the first.last@fp.o
> > alias would be more prudent just in case someone is using it actively.
> > Moreover it would be useful if users in the account name can set aliases
> > manually. When you sign up for a account, the fact that you get a email
> > id automatically should be better documented in the account pages too.
> >
> > Rahul
>
> Unless anyone can think of any reason not to, I'll send a list to
> announce, devel and extras stating that we'll be getting rid of
> first.last.
>          -Mike
>
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[Mike McGrath]

On 1/18/07, Paulo Santos  wrote:
> I didnt even knew that we could get those email addresses...
>
> Paulo

We don't advertise it really.  I'm not sure why, I guess we kind of
just hope that people don't use it until they've been involved long
enough to learn about it :-D  Makes them look more official.

-Mike

[Paulo Santos]

That makes alot of sense

On 1/18/07, Mike McGrath  wrote:
> On 1/18/07, Paulo Santos  wrote:
> > I didnt even knew that we could get those email addresses...
> >
> > Paulo
>
> We don't advertise it really.  I'm not sure why, I guess we kind of
> just hope that people don't use it until they've been involved long
> enough to learn about it :-D  Makes them look more official.
>          -Mike

[Bill Nottingham]

Mike McGrath ([e-mail]) said:
> Unless anyone can think of any reason not to, I'll send a list to
> announce, devel and extras stating that we'll be getting rid of
> first.last.

Maybe just stop for new accounts, and grandfather in what's
there? (I don't know if the setup for generating them really
allows for this...)

Bill

[Paulo Santos]

let me create mine then :D

On 1/18/07, Bill Nottingham  wrote:
> Mike McGrath ([e-mail]) said:
> > Unless anyone can think of any reason not to, I'll send a list to
> > announce, devel and extras stating that we'll be getting rid of
> > first.last.
>
> Maybe just stop for new accounts, and grandfather in what's
> there? (I don't know if the setup for generating them really
> allows for this...)
>
> Bill
>
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> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list

[Mike McGrath]

On 1/18/07, Paulo Santos  wrote:
> let me create mine then :D

Actually they're auto generated when you create your account at the
top of every hour.

-Mike

[Mike McGrath]

On 1/18/07, Bill Nottingham  wrote:
> Mike McGrath ([e-mail]) said:
> > Unless anyone can think of any reason not to, I'll send a list to
> > announce, devel and extras stating that we'll be getting rid of
> > first.last.
>
> Maybe just stop for new accounts, and grandfather in what's
> there? (I don't know if the setup for generating them really
> allows for this...)

Actually I'd rather just drop it for everyone, mostly because we have
a lot of first / last combos that are invalid syntactically that will
cause us issue when upgrading to postfix.

-Mike

[Warren Togami]

Mike McGrath wrote:
> Actually I'd rather just drop it for everyone, mostly because we have
> a lot of first / last combos that are invalid syntactically that will
> cause us issue when upgrading to postfix.

+1 for dropping them completely.

Warren Togami
[e-mail]

[Elliot Lee]

On Jan 18, 2007, at 15:57 , Mike McGrath wrote:
> At present we provide two @fedoraproject.org addresses to everyone who
> has a fedoraproject account.
>
> account@fp.o
> and
> first.last@fp.o
>
> Notting pointed out that its only a matter of time before we have a
> collision in first.last.  Should we just get rid of it?  I don't know
> of anyone using it.

Another possible solution - add a 'UNIQUE' constraint onto the  
human_name field in the db...

Best,
-- Elliot

[Ahmed Kamal]

while account@fp.o is technically easier, first.last@fp.o looks better and
is more professional. If we can keep it, I'd rather do!
A check for ASCII characters only + uniqueness might be all that's needed in
the web app as suggested

On 1/21/07, Elliot Lee  wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2007, at 15:57 , Mike McGrath wrote:
> > At present we provide two @fedoraproject.org addresses to everyone who
> > has a fedoraproject account.
> >
> > account@fp.o
> > and
> > first.last@fp.o
> >
> > Notting pointed out that its only a matter of time before we have a
> > collision in first.last.  Should we just get rid of it?  I don't know
> > of anyone using it.
>
> Another possible solution - add a 'UNIQUE' constraint onto the
> human_name field in the db...
>
> Best,
> -- Elliot
>
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list

[seth vidal]

On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 23:52 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote:
> while account@fp.o is technically easier, first.last@fp.o looks better
> and is more professional. If we can keep it, I'd rather do!
> A check for ASCII characters only + uniqueness might be all that's
> needed in the web app as suggested

professional doesn't matter, imo. Fedora is a hobbiest and
enthusiast-driven linux distro.

no professional needs :)

-sv

[Rachid Zarouali]

On 1/22/07, seth vidal  wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 23:52 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote:
> > while account@fp.o is technically easier, first.last@fp.o looks better
> > and is more professional. If we can keep it, I'd rather do!
> > A check for ASCII characters only + uniqueness might be all that's
> > needed in the web app as suggested
>
> professional doesn't matter, imo. Fedora is a hobbiest and
> enthusiast-driven linux distro.

which doesn't mean  we won't do our hobbie  "professionally" :)

no professional needs :)
> -sv
>
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[Mike McGrath]

On 1/21/07, seth vidal  wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 23:52 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote:
>
> professional doesn't matter, imo. Fedora is a hobbiest and
> enthusiast-driven linux distro.
>
> no professional needs :)

I'd like to think "mmcgrath" is a professional sounding account :-D
But I'd hate to tell the next Mike McGrath that they can't create an
account because their first and last name is already taken.  Plus
saying "no first name last name" accounts is easier than telling those
that have special characters in their names that they can't have the
first name last name account.

-Mike

[seth vidal]

On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 18:55 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On 1/21/07, seth vidal  wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 23:52 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote:
> >
> > professional doesn't matter, imo. Fedora is a hobbiest and
> > enthusiast-driven linux distro.
> >
> > no professional needs :)
>
> I'd like to think "mmcgrath" is a professional sounding account :-D
> But I'd hate to tell the next Mike McGrath that they can't create an
> account because their first and last name is already taken.  Plus
> saying "no first name last name" accounts is easier than telling those
> that have special characters in their names that they can't have the
> first name last name account.

+1
-sv

[Toshio Kuratomi]

On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 18:55 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> On 1/21/07, seth vidal  wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 23:52 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote:
> >
> > professional doesn't matter, imo. Fedora is a hobbiest and
> > enthusiast-driven linux distro.
> >
> > no professional needs :)
>
> I'd like to think "mmcgrath" is a professional sounding account :-D
> But I'd hate to tell the next Mike McGrath that they can't create an
> account because their first and last name is already taken.  Plus
> saying "no first name last name" accounts is easier than telling those
> that have special characters in their names that they can't have the
> first name last name account.

+1

-Toshio