That's really looking for a cat's fifth leg. Blacklist has nothing to do
with evil, it's just a list of things you don't want to see or use, and
whitelist is a list of things you want to explicitly allow.
Let's say we're talking about drivers, and I want to blacklist a specific
drivers because it's clashing with the default. Does that mean that
driver is evil? No, it's just means there's a conflict of versions or
products.
Trying to find good and evil in a technical issue is pointless and I agree
with others that this is a non-issue discussion.
The terms are not obfuscatory. They have been used for decades if not
more, and people understand them without even reaching for a dictionary.
If it makes you feel better, use another term. I for myself will not. My
life is complicated enough to worry about terms that haven't and never had
any foul meaning.
For the records, I did read the thread.
Best regards,
Lailah
On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 01:43, Paul Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know how to say this any more clearly. Please read back
into the
thread. The issue is not the use of the word "black."
The issue is the use of "blacklist/whitelist" where black and white are
representative of evil and good respectively. It serves no useful purpose
and is better expressed as allow/deny. Blacklist and whitelist are
*themselves* obfuscatory terms. That's why it only makes more sense to stop
using them.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 3:20 PM Silvia Sánchez <bhkohane(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Since when the word "black" is bad? It's a colour. Same as white,
blue,
> orange and pale pink.
> Changing the use of two terms associated with colours doesn't make any
> sense and will be confusing for everyone.
> I'm absolutely against it. We don't need to obfuscate the meaning of
> things or make it hard to understand to non-native English speakers.
> Also, did anyone actually got offended by this term? Or is it just a case
> of opening the umbrella before it rains?
>
> Kind regards,
> Lailah
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 00:06, Richard Shaw <hobbes1069(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok, so as the writer of the article here are my thoughts...
> >
> > I'm OK with changing the term if it add clarity, but I'm against
> changing
> > it just because it contains the name "black".
> >
> > It's a color. There are black pens, marks, crayons, etc (as far as
> > reference to the color).
> >
> > Blacklisting something (or someone) has a long history of use (at least
> in
> > English) which has nothing to do with race.
> >
> > I don't see changing this particular article as a problem, but rather
> as a
> > stepping stone to a run-away issue for which there is no solution and
> I'm
> > not in favor of "cleansing" language to appease people who can't
help
> > themselves from being offended even when there's no reason to be.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Richard
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