Openbox update

[Paul W. Frields]

Hi William,

Are you able to work on that Openbox post over the weekend?  We are
hoping to publish it next week if you can help figure out the
instructions to make it work properly on a fresh install.

[William Moreno]

Hi Paul I have doble checked and the install instructions work fine but GDM
in Fedora Workstation do not show the entry for openbox after the install,
the Plasma sddm and light in the Mate spin show the option to login with
openbox.

Do you think ins fine to provide the instruction to swich from GDM to
LightDM in the post?

*William Moreno Reyes*
Colaborador Proyecto Fedora | Nicaragua
IRC:  williamjmorenor Canales: #fedora-latam ; #fedora-ni
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2017-10-19 6:45 GMT-06:00 Paul W. Frields :
> Hi William,
>
> Are you able to work on that Openbox post over the weekend?  We are
> hoping to publish it next week if you can help figure out the
> instructions to make it work properly on a fresh install.
>
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[Eduard Lucena]

You should show how to add the entry in gdm:

Create the file:
/usr/share/xsessions/openbox.desktop
With the following content:

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Openbox
Comment=Log in using the Openbox window manager (without a session manager)
Exec=/usr/bin/openbox-session
TryExec=/usr/bin/openbox-session
Icon=openbox
Type=Application

This is the openbox.desktop file used by LightDM (Cinnamon Spin).
Br,

2017-10-23 15:03 GMT-03:00 William Moreno <[e-mail]
> :
> Hi Paul I have doble checked and the install instructions work fine but GDM
> in Fedora Workstation do not show the entry for openbox after the install,
> the Plasma sddm and light in the Mate spin show the option to login with
> openbox.
>
> Do you think ins fine to provide the instruction to swich from GDM to
> LightDM in the post?
>
> *William Moreno Reyes*
> Colaborador Proyecto Fedora | Nicaragua
> IRC:  williamjmorenor Canales: #fedora-latam ; #fedora-ni
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Williamjmorenor
>
> 2017-10-19 6:45 GMT-06:00 Paul W. Frields :
> > Hi William,
> >
> > Are you able to work on that Openbox post over the weekend?  We are
> > hoping to publish it next week if you can help figure out the
> > instructions to make it work properly on a fresh install.
> >
> > --
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[Paul W. Frields]

Hi Eduard,

The file appears to be present in the openbox RPM.  I can only guess
that you have to kill GDM or reboot to get it to show up, and I hadn't
done that.

Paul

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 03:51:28PM -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote:
> You should show how to add the entry in gdm:
>
> Create the file:
> /usr/share/xsessions/openbox.desktop
> With the following content:
>
> [Desktop Entry]
> Name=Openbox
> Comment=Log in using the Openbox window manager (without a session manager)
> Exec=/usr/bin/openbox-session
> TryExec=/usr/bin/openbox-session
> Icon=openbox
> Type=Application
>
> This is the openbox.desktop file used by LightDM (Cinnamon Spin).
> Br,
>
> 2017-10-23 15:03 GMT-03:00 William Moreno <[e-mail]
> > :
> > Hi Paul I have doble checked and the install instructions work fine but GDM
> > in Fedora Workstation do not show the entry for openbox after the install,
> > the Plasma sddm and light in the Mate spin show the option to login with
> > openbox.
> >
> > Do you think ins fine to provide the instruction to swich from GDM to
> > LightDM in the post?
> >
> > *William Moreno Reyes*
> > Colaborador Proyecto Fedora | Nicaragua
> > IRC:  williamjmorenor Canales: #fedora-latam ; #fedora-ni
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Williamjmorenor
> >
> > 2017-10-19 6:45 GMT-06:00 Paul W. Frields :
> > > Hi William,
> > >
> > > Are you able to work on that Openbox post over the weekend?  We are
> > > hoping to publish it next week if you can help figure out the
> > > instructions to make it work properly on a fresh install.
> > >
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[Paul W. Frields]

Hi William,

This was the exact problem I ran into, but it no longer seems to be a
problem now.  I tried on both F26 and F27 and now Openbox shows up for
me on the GDM screen, *after* I kill GDM (or reboot).  So you may want
to advise about that, and then go ahead.

Don't advise switching from GDM to LightDM, doesn't appear necessary.

Paul

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:03:21PM -0600, William Moreno wrote:
> Hi Paul I have doble checked and the install instructions work fine but GDM
> in Fedora Workstation do not show the entry for openbox after the install,
> the Plasma sddm and light in the Mate spin show the option to login with
> openbox.
>
> Do you think ins fine to provide the instruction to swich from GDM to
> LightDM in the post?
>
> *William Moreno Reyes*
> Colaborador Proyecto Fedora | Nicaragua
> IRC:  williamjmorenor Canales: #fedora-latam ; #fedora-ni
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Williamjmorenor
>
> 2017-10-19 6:45 GMT-06:00 Paul W. Frields :
> > Hi William,
> >
> > Are you able to work on that Openbox post over the weekend?  We are
> > hoping to publish it next week if you can help figure out the
> > instructions to make it work properly on a fresh install.
> >
> > --
> > Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
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> >   http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
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>
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[Paul W. Frields]

I did find out during my reading that openbox is basically
unmaintained now.  You should definitely mention that in the article
up front.  I don't think the Magazine should cover dead technology
without warning users.

https://github.com/danakj/openbox
https://github.com/Mikachu/openbox

Paul

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 05:18:56PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> Hi William,
>
> This was the exact problem I ran into, but it no longer seems to be a
> problem now.  I tried on both F26 and F27 and now Openbox shows up for
> me on the GDM screen, *after* I kill GDM (or reboot).  So you may want
> to advise about that, and then go ahead.
>
> Don't advise switching from GDM to LightDM, doesn't appear necessary.
>
> Paul
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:03:21PM -0600, William Moreno wrote:
> > Hi Paul I have doble checked and the install instructions work fine but GDM
> > in Fedora Workstation do not show the entry for openbox after the install,
> > the Plasma sddm and light in the Mate spin show the option to login with
> > openbox.
> >
> > Do you think ins fine to provide the instruction to swich from GDM to
> > LightDM in the post?
> >
> > *William Moreno Reyes*
> > Colaborador Proyecto Fedora | Nicaragua
> > IRC:  williamjmorenor Canales: #fedora-latam ; #fedora-ni
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Williamjmorenor
> >
> > 2017-10-19 6:45 GMT-06:00 Paul W. Frields :
> > > Hi William,
> > >
> > > Are you able to work on that Openbox post over the weekend?  We are
> > > hoping to publish it next week if you can help figure out the
> > > instructions to make it work properly on a fresh install.

[William Moreno]

I made the updates to the post, please let me know if you have any
aditional comment, even if openbox in not a very active project is one of
the classic desktop enviroments in Linux and I think a good started guide
can help people to use it in fedora.

Regards

*William Moreno Reyes*
Colaborador Proyecto Fedora | Nicaragua
IRC:  williamjmorenor Canales: #fedora-latam ; #fedora-ni
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Williamjmorenor

2017-10-24 7:21 GMT-06:00 Paul W. Frields :
> I did find out during my reading that openbox is basically
> unmaintained now.  You should definitely mention that in the article
> up front.  I don't think the Magazine should cover dead technology
> without warning users.
>
> https://github.com/danakj/openbox
> https://github.com/Mikachu/openbox
>
> Paul
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 05:18:56PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > Hi William,
> >
> > This was the exact problem I ran into, but it no longer seems to be a
> > problem now.  I tried on both F26 and F27 and now Openbox shows up for
> > me on the GDM screen, *after* I kill GDM (or reboot).  So you may want
> > to advise about that, and then go ahead.
> >
> > Don't advise switching from GDM to LightDM, doesn't appear necessary.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:03:21PM -0600, William Moreno wrote:
> > > Hi Paul I have doble checked and the install instructions work fine
>
> but GDM
> > > in Fedora Workstation do not show the entry for openbox after the
>
> install,
> > > the Plasma sddm and light in the Mate spin show the option to login
>
> with
> > > openbox.
> > >
> > > Do you think ins fine to provide the instruction to swich from GDM to
> > > LightDM in the post?
> > >
> > > *William Moreno Reyes*
> > > Colaborador Proyecto Fedora | Nicaragua
> > > IRC:  williamjmorenor Canales: #fedora-latam ; #fedora-ni
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Williamjmorenor
> > >
> > > 2017-10-19 6:45 GMT-06:00 Paul W. Frields :
> > > > Hi William,
> > > >
> > > > Are you able to work on that Openbox post over the weekend?  We are
> > > > hoping to publish it next week if you can help figure out the
> > > > instructions to make it work properly on a fresh install.

[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 08:58:23PM -0600, William Moreno wrote:
> I made the updates to the post, please let me know if you have any
> aditional comment, even if openbox in not a very active project is one of
> the classic desktop enviroments in Linux and I think a good started guide
> can help people to use it in fedora.

William, I've seen the updates and we will get to publishing this.
The impending release interrupted our plans but I believe we'll end up
publishing this around the week after next.

[Paul W. Frields]

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 02:43:24PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 08:58:23PM -0600, William Moreno wrote:
> > I made the updates to the post, please let me know if you have any
> > aditional comment, even if openbox in not a very active project is one of
> > the classic desktop enviroments in Linux and I think a good started guide
> > can help people to use it in fedora.
>
> William, I've seen the updates and we will get to publishing this.
> The impending release interrupted our plans but I believe we'll end up
> publishing this around the week after next.

William, I see that instead of adding your updates, you overwrote all
my previous editing.  This makes it much harder for me to finish and
publish the article.  Can you revert to my last revision, please, and
then just add your new material, instead?  Thank you in advance.

[William Moreno]

2017-11-15 7:18 GMT-06:00 Paul W. Frields :
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 02:43:24PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 08:58:23PM -0600, William Moreno wrote:
> > > I made the updates to the post, please let me know if you have any
> > > aditional comment, even if openbox in not a very active project is one
>
> of
> > > the classic desktop enviroments in Linux and I think a good started
>
> guide
> > > can help people to use it in fedora.
> >
> > William, I've seen the updates and we will get to publishing this.
> > The impending release interrupted our plans but I believe we'll end up
> > publishing this around the week after next.
>
> William, I see that instead of adding your updates, you overwrote all
> my previous editing.  This makes it much harder for me to finish and
> publish the article.  Can you revert to my last revision, please, and
> then just add your new material, instead?  Thank you in advance.

I think it is done now, thanks a lot for your time.

[Shaun Assam]

Hi William,

Is there a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsession for Openbox? I found
instructions for this at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2920

I just tried it myself and after rebooting the computer an option for
Openbox now shows in the GDM Desktop Session list. Hope this helps.

Regards,

Shaun Assam

On Wed, 2017-11-15 at 09:00 -0600, William Moreno wrote:
> 2017-11-15 7:18 GMT-06:00 Paul W. Frields :
> > On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 02:43:24PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 08:58:23PM -0600, William Moreno wrote:
> > > > I made the updates to the post, please let me know if you have
> > > > any
> > > > aditional comment, even if openbox in not a very active project
> > > > is one
> >
> > of
> > > > the classic desktop enviroments in Linux and I think a good
> > > > started
> >
> > guide
> > > > can help people to use it in fedora.
> > >
> > > William, I've seen the updates and we will get to publishing
> > > this.
> > > The impending release interrupted our plans but I believe we'll
> > > end up
> > > publishing this around the week after next.
> >
> > William, I see that instead of adding your updates, you overwrote
> > all
> > my previous editing.  This makes it much harder for me to finish
> > and
> > publish the article.  Can you revert to my last revision, please,
> > and
> > then just add your new material, instead?  Thank you in advance.
>
> I think it is done now, thanks a lot for your time.
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[Paul W. Frields]

There is -- for some reason it wasn't working for me, and then it
did.  I suspect I failed to reboot.  So we'll make sure the article
reflects the right process.

Paul

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 03:12:13PM +0000, Shaun Assam wrote:
> Hi William,
>
> Is there a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsession for Openbox? I found
> instructions for this at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2920
>
> I just tried it myself and after rebooting the computer an option for
> Openbox now shows in the GDM Desktop Session list. Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Shaun Assam
>
> On Wed, 2017-11-15 at 09:00 -0600, William Moreno wrote:
> > 2017-11-15 7:18 GMT-06:00 Paul W. Frields :
> > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 02:43:24PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 08:58:23PM -0600, William Moreno wrote:
> > > > > I made the updates to the post, please let me know if you have
> > > > > any
> > > > > aditional comment, even if openbox in not a very active project
> > > > > is one
> > >
> > > of
> > > > > the classic desktop enviroments in Linux and I think a good
> > > > > started
> > >
> > > guide
> > > > > can help people to use it in fedora.
> > > >
> > > > William, I've seen the updates and we will get to publishing
> > > > this.
> > > > The impending release interrupted our plans but I believe we'll
> > > > end up
> > > > publishing this around the week after next.
> > >
> > > William, I see that instead of adding your updates, you overwrote
> > > all
> > > my previous editing.  This makes it much harder for me to finish
> > > and
> > > publish the article.  Can you revert to my last revision, please,
> > > and
> > > then just add your new material, instead?  Thank you in advance.
> >
> > I think it is done now, thanks a lot for your time.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fedora Magazine mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
> > g
>
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[William Moreno]

Hello Paul did you have a moment to review the openbox article?

*William Moreno Reyes*
Colaborador Proyecto Fedora | Nicaragua
IRC:  williamjmorenor Canales: #fedora-latam ; #fedora-ni
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Williamjmorenor

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 04:19:25PM -0600, William Moreno wrote:
> Hello Paul did you have a moment to review the openbox article?

It's been edited and will be published next Monday.  Thank you Ryan
for the excellent image!