Hi all secondary architectures,
s390x is probably the most up-to-date secondary architecture in Fedora
and because there are still packages that fail to build I have started a
wiki page  to track that issues. It's meant as a temporary storage
before the failure is fully analysed and
- fix is applied to the package or
- proper bug report in Fedora or upstream is created or
- the set of supported architectures is updated.
Usually a short info about the cause of the failure is written here and
interested parties can take packages from this list and try to resolve
the failure. Right now the list is shared mainly between s390x and ppc,
but in my opinion it could be useful also for other arches, like in
sparc for endianity issues same as in ppc/s390x, etc.
And as you probably know it's a never ending fight because what could be
built yesterday can fail today :-(
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http://www.redhat.com/magazine/007may05/features/mac-mini/ to the
Belorussian language (my mother tongue). What I'm asking for is your
written permission, so you don't mind after I'll post the translation to
my blog. The translation is intended only for web, no print copies planned.
Visitors of your website, who come from Minsk (Belorussia) will be the
ones, who will read this blogpost, that's the only way to spread them,
no additional instruments we can use. Every translation we ever do does
not costs a penny for the webpage, which is translated. All we ask is to
link back in whatever way you feel confident about it.
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Dear fans of Haskell and PowerPC,
as was announced earlier Fedora for PowerPC has revived as a secondary
arch. There are available images and repositories for Fedora 15 (ppc,
ppc64) and the PowerPC release is planned for Fedora 16.
GHC was available for ppc already in Fedora 12. Good news is
bootstrapping ghc-7.0.2 for ppc64 in Fedora 15. You can find also a
number of packages of Haskell platform that are built for ppc64
Builds for F16 are not available yet because of waiting for release of
ghc-7.0.4 (RC1 was announced on Jun 03 by upstream). Fedora 16 should
contain ppc64 builds of almost whole Haskell platform. These things will
be announced here.
Unfortunately ppc64 is listed among "Tier 2 platforms" by upstream - see
Especially ppc64 doesn't support GHCi (interactive environment) and NCG
(Native Code Generator) yet. Due to this we wouldn't be able to build
minimal following packages:
I hope the list is probably completed and will not grow up.
In preparation for building local test rpms, I tried
yum groupinstall "Development Tools" "Development Libraries"
and found that openjade was required but not available from
so, after a little Google action, I came across Matthew Burgess's patch
for openjade to make it build on gcc 4.6.0 at
(there's probably a better URL for this.) His patch works in that it
corrects the problem with building openjade. I do not know whether the
code actually works.
I'm ignorant of the protocols for using patches found on the web, so I
don't know whether this can just be used. The real difficult is that
openjade was last built for Fedora 13, which was not a ppc Fedora
release, so there is no way to just carry the F13 rpm forward.
I hope this is helpful and that the list is the right place to report this.
It's been roughly a month since the last update, so i wanted to send out
a quick update of where we are.
Things have been progressing nicely and we now even have 2 mash trees
with install images for testing available for, one for ppc, the other
Those are our current development trees, so things might be broken at
times. Also the rpms aren't signed as we're changing stuff to fast and
this isn't a release.
We have tested them on a Power7 box as well as on an older Apple G5, but
your mileage may vary. Especially on Power5 and Power6 the problem still
exists that the unified initramfs of Anaconda is too large to fit into
the initial RAM during bootup, so you'll need to revert to the method
described in the next paragraph.
If you want to go a bit of a safer route you can try out an upgrade from
Fedora 12 to Fedora 15. Dan Horak has described how to do this in a blog
entry he wrote:
It's quite a bit of manual work, but it's pretty straight forward what
to do. So feel free to give that a shot if you want to try that way
instead of a fresh install with the mash images and trees.
As stated previously, we won't be doing an official Fedora 15 release,
it's just not ready yet. But Fedora 16 is definitely planed and
currently on track.
Current state of the work can always be found here, as usual:
Thanks & regards, Phil
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