Re: [Fedora-trans-ar] Why Fedora installs all the world languages on my poor laptop?!
Can we put more load on Fedora/RedHat packagers ??
To isolate the language files of every package, and put them all in a separate
language RPM for every language ??
I know, it wouldn't be a single RPM file...but we have to find a way really.
Do you think we should post this upstream ?
On Wednesday 17 August 2005 11:50 pm, sabdelg(a)redhat.com wrote:
Bring it on!
Post a thread per bug, explain the bug, point a fix/patch.
Let us discuss them, and we can then open a bug to get it
fixed.
Sherif
Quoting Munzir Taha <munzirtaha(a)newhorizons.com.sa>:
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> sabdelg(a)redhat.com:
>> > Today I checked the Arabic locale .mo files by doing locate .mo. I was
>> > astonished to find my poor laptop doesn't only have Arabic and English
>> > languages installed but every language one can dream of. This makes a
>> > total of 332MB on my hard disk. Now I am going to remove them manually
>> > which is not something to be recommeded since it breaks package
>> > validation. Any one here knows why is this? Any solution? Should I
>> > tell Sherif to file a bug? ;)
>>
>> can you do the following against some of the .mo files:
>>
>> rpm -qf /path/to/file.mo
>
> Each rpm package contains all the languages packed within it. For
> example, rpm -qf locale/ru_RU/cups_ru_RU
> cups-1.1.23-15.1
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>> I would like to know which RPM is installing the files, and if they
>> are all coming from one RPM.
>
> no not from one RPM
>
>> Also, if there is deps that is being
>> statisfied by installing these files befor we can say it should not
>> be there or it need to be fixed.
>
> I am not speaking about installing an input method for CJK or the like.
> Every package, every game, every screen saver ;) is installed with all
> the languages. If you can push things regarding to locales and glibc from
> inside redhat, then I would be happy to tell you about other
> arabic-related bugs where I feel the redhat guy there is not cooperative
> enough ;)
>
>> > Another point is I am missing the all the Arabic locales files like
>> > LC_TIME, LC_COLLATE, ... and hence I can't display the date in Arabic.
>> > There is is also no ar_xx locales for different Arabic countries -
>> > only a standard ar! May be I am missing something obvious?
>>
>> You wiwll need ar_xx if you have different translations for different
>> countries.
>> But as I can see it. For example, you have UK Vs. UK because there are a
>> team who is translating or providing the differnet version of certain
>> words from UK.
>> Hence, once we have different groups from different countries who
>> speaks arabic,
>> and they speak in different dialog and want different translation, you
>> can then
>> see or ask for different ar_xx :) (at least that's how I think it is)
>
> No Sherif, it's not like this. The point of different ar_xx is not mainly
> concerned with the Arabic language translation but with locales. In other
> words, the ar_xx folder should contain the files that correspond each
> country to it's numbers system, calendar system, .... For example, in
> Saudi Arabia, we use Hijri Calendar as an official calendar and we use
> Hindi numerals where as in Morocco they use Gregorian Calendar and Arabic
> numerals. The ar_xx should take care of all this with the LC_TIME and
> LC_NUMERIC. Say the same thing with regards to currency symbol, ...
>
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